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Imagine caring what app other people use.
- You're not a real Linux user unless you removed about other people's software choices
  
  I'm a Linux user and I already have Sync for lemmy lifetime pass. Am I not real
  
  your choice in software sucks
  arch btw
  /s
  
  They removed because they care. /s
  
  Xbox and sony fanboys chipping in
  And mac users
- I care in the sense that if a lot of other people are happy with a different client, I want to try it myself.
- Imagine caring about people caring
  
  Imagine caring about people imagining people caring about people caring.
  Did I spell caring right? It really doesn't look right anymore.
- Weird. I downloaded synch and didnt pay a cent. Is there a pay version?
  
  they mean free as in freedom,
  See: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
  
  Yeah it's free, but the ad-free version is 20 quid and the Ultra version is a laughable 100 quid
  
  There's a free ad version, non-ad version($20), and extra feature version ($100/life, $16/yr, $2?/mo)
- Seriously why are there so many posts about this? Let it go, people
- The more popular your personal favorite app is, the more attention it will get from developers, this making your app better.
  See, it's not just about caring about somebody else's preferences.
  
  Kinda throws the chrome comparison out the window
- Yeah it's not like that the majority of people using e.g. Chrome over FOSS alternative like Firefox has any repercussions, why would we care, right?
  
  Nobody is forcing you to use sync, hell nobody is even asking you to try it. So why not stop being one of the spiteful angry assholes that is driving people away from Lemmy.

I really don't get the hate. Use whatever TF you want to and makes you happy. JFC.
- The hate would stem from the utter spam of every possible fucking instance with "Hey, Sync is out and the fucking best!! Spend your money!"
  
  Almost like people are excited about it
  
  Only $99.99 ! What a deal!

One of my issues with Lemmy so far is how meta it is.
Reddit is often meta, sure, but 60% of the content I'm seeing here (while browsing Everything) is about how much better Lemmy is or whatever app people are using to access it. Let's get back to shitposting, articles, and memes please. I want this platform to work and I don't think it will if this content continues.
- Your problem is browsing Everything. There's a lot of content on Lemmy that isn't meta-posting - you just need to curate your own feed, like on Reddit.
  Subscribe to some more casual places for a funner frontpage.
  
  Thanks. On reddit when I was bored of my frontpage I'd go on /r/all to check out other subs and maybe subscribe if I liked the content. That has been my strat here and it isn't panning out so far. Looks like I gotta change it up.
  
  Thanks for this!
  
  Thanks for this. Now I just have to hope some of the communities I briefly looked through like the history related ones don't suffer from usdefaultism. It seems like meta and defaultism kills all interests for me.
  
  Everything on Lemmy is cancer
  Edit: I'm obviously talking about the "Everything" tab, curated Lemmy is great.
- This is the only comment/post you've ever made, and it's meta lol. Be the change you want to see
- Lemmy is still fairly new to most people here and most of these new people came from reddit. A group of people who majorly are having a single, shared, novel experience (moving from reddit to Lemmy) are gonna talk about that thing until it stops being novel.
  It's already getting considerably less meta so I'd just enjoy it for what it is, contribute content to the communities you like, and just allow the meta conversations to naturally subside.

This discourse in these comments is stupid. People can complain about Sync if they have something to complain about. It's a fucking forum. Personally I hate the idea of restricting features and using ads to get people to pay, especially when I have several FOSS apps that work perfectly for me, I don't think Sync feels any more "slick".
There, that's my opinion. I don't like Sync and I'm not attacking anyone for using it.
- As a Sync user, I support this comment. The fact that these debates occur is precisely due to the fact that people have the freedom of choice, and that's something to celebrate.
  Sync doesn't have to be "better" or "worse" than other apps and vice versa. People should pick what they like. I pick it because it feels like home after having used it for almost 10 years. Doesn't mean it's better.
- I fully agree! I have no idea why would I need to pay $20 for an app when I have a bunch of alternatives that I like even more. Welp, I even like to use a browser instead of an app sometimes. But people are excited and are going to Lemmy, which is a good thing
  
  Damn I loved Sync for reddit. Paid like $3 for the pro version, removing ads. Not sure I can make myself pay $20 though. Something like $5-$8 would be more reasonable.
  
  No one says you need to, in fact you don't, but many people keep removed like they are forced to.
- People can complain about Sync if they have something to complain about.
  Okay. I have something to complain about, too. It's people complaining too much about Sync.
  
  Well I'd like to complain about people complaining about people complaining about Sync >:)
  
  I get complaining about the price, I get being a FOSS diehard, but there are are a handful of accounts that are so insanely mad about Sync and commenting/posting about it so much that they genuinely can't be mentally well.
- Ye, I loved Sync for Reddit, bought pro and dev even, but current Sync monetization is insane enough to alienate me.
  Whatever people want to use do not concern me.
  
  Youtube premium is $2/month in my country, sync is one time $25.. Would have to say it's kinda expensive and not buying it anytime soon.
- They aren't using ads to "get people to pay" they're using ads to pay for people who don't want to pay
  
  Yes, the ads make a little money. But it's still a problem you create then sell the solution to. It's at least half the reason to do ads.
- Which open source app do you feel is just as slick as sync? Genuine question. I'd be happy to support a FOSS app, but all that I found had weird issues and quirks, and/or janky UI. Liftoff was the best I'd found but again, buggy and janky.
  
  I'm still just using Jerboa. It was buggy when I first used it but a few updates later it does it all fine.
- It's the cost, not the idea taking people back.

Yeah, because why should app developers get paid, right? They should all code for free at their local public library. Maybe live in a big ceramic jar like Diogenes.
- "Free" as in "freedom", not price. There's nothing stopping somebody from making money on FOSS.
  Goddam Richard Stallman really screwed the PR up on that one with the "free" thing.
  
  The F in FOSS stands for free, IIRC. The ability to access, use, share the code, etc. has more to do with the open source part of the acronym. I haven't really seen anyone complain about Sync being closed sourced so far... Just that you have to pay not to see ads.
  Ive only ever seen FOSS developers get support through donations. Which is nice and all, but likely not enough for an independent developer like ljdawson to survive on alone.
  Dont get me wrong, I like FOSS apps too, but the experience almost always suffers to some degree; its easy to see why. I just don't get why Sync is being singled out like some kind of evil tech monopoly lately. As far as I can tell, its just an individual developer who released a great app for free (yes with ads, you're the product, blah blah blah) with an optional lifetime payment to disable ads completely.
  
  And companies think free in open source as in free labor.
  
  When you figure out how to make a living writing FOSS let me know
  
  It's more a limitation of the english language.... No distinction between free as in beer or free as in freedom... We're stuck with the same word
- Okay, I won’t push you from Sync. But if you have the money to remove its ads, please also consider supporting Lemmy directly or indirectly (Mozilla, among other things, funded the effort to find and patch TootRoot before it became a problem). If you don’t want to just donate, switching to Mozilla VPN will also help.
- I've tried a few of the other apps, and didn't like them that much. Sync is the first one I actually liked. Not sure if I want to pay for it, though
- You can have both!
  
  In my experience you can have:
  Good app that is free with ads,
  Good app that is paid without ads,
  Shit to mediocre app that is free without ads.
  I've tried many alternatives, but so far the intuitiveness and beautiful UX of Sync stand apart from the competition for me. I respect FOSS apps, and even prefer them in some cases. But let's not pretend that its the best approach for every developer, or that anyone who releases a non-FOSS app is automatically greedy or sketchy.

I've been happy with Liftoff.
- I was happy with connect. Then I craved for foss. Now I'm torn between summit, thunder and arctius (formerly fennec)
  Btw slide for lemmy just dropped. It still lacks community blocking. But it's nice, similar to lift off.
  
  What the deuce is FOSS
  
  Isn't summit proprietary?
- I have few to zero complaints with it
  
  Is your community overview morking, for me it always gives an error recently

Seeing the Sync for lemmy pricing, I just sent 20 USD to the Lemmy/Jerboa devs for offering all this for free!
- I think the “hot take” that needs to be said here - and surprisingly I have not come across it yet - is that it’s totally fine if you’re willing to pay 20 dollars for the app.
  However, please remember that the app itself is not self contained. It relies on the hard work of the Lemmy developers and the instance you use staying online. Please consider sending them some money as well down the line. If you get the app for 20 dollars as a one time payment, maybe some future payments - even if considerably smaller - can go towards the latter.
  
  I'm using Sync free version and $20 seems pretty steep for me. I like it but not sure about that price compared to ad free versions of other apps.
  I am already donating to my instance though 😄
- I did the opposite. The moment I saw Sync for Lemmy available to download I installed it and immediately purchased Ultra because bless LJ for making the superior app. He deserves getting paid for his work. And it's not like he requires you to pay for the app. It's free for everyone, you just get some additional features if you are willing to pay and by doing that you also support the developer. So I decided to support him. I've been using Sync for Reddit before and I knew I needed this app for Lemmy. Now I feel home.
  
  It is not free if I pay with my data.

I'm also a huge believer in open source. I'm using Infinity for Lemmy right now but I gladly paid for the ad removal in Sync. It genuinely is the best Lemmy app out right now. It just works and has so many customization options. Not to mention, since Sync uses Google for ads, when you remove the ads, the ad component isnt initialized so you remove the tracking. So nothing to worry about there either. 20$ lifetime for such an awesome app is totally fair for me. That's my opinion, you are free to disagree.
- I used Sync for Reddit since alpha (back when it was Reddit Sync), so I gladly paid the $20 ad removal, even though I also happen to be juggling both Sync and Infinity right now. They're both so good.
  
  Infinity was my go-to Reddit client. I love it so much.
- Thanks for info about Google ads great to know
- I'm seeing $99.99 for lifetime.
  Edit: I was confusing Ultra with simply removing ads.

I've tried pretty much all the FOSS Lemmy apps I could get my hands on but the experience Sync provides is far superior. I'm an ex Boost user and since I couldn't find Boost for Lemmy I naturally gravitated towards Sync and I'm not looking back.
- Boost is making a comeback on lemmy soon too in case you weren't aware
  
  Yeah, that's what I've been waiting for. But with Sync ready and so many other free options, I'm worried that by the time it comes out, I'll already have transitioned to something else. Have you heard anything about an ETA for the app?
- Sync definitely is far superior. $2 and change per month is more than reasonable to keep developing an app I use so much.

What's important is Lemmy getting adopted doesn't matter what app people choose.
We have great apps with PWA as Voyager or old Reddit theme with MLMYM.
Never want to use a censored social agregator as Reddit.
- Just an FYI for those who aren’t aware, a native Voyager app is available via TestFlight, and it’s very similar to Apollo.
  https://testflight.apple.com/join/nWLw1MBM
  
  Also already submitted to Playstore , waiting for approval.
- Exactly! There's no entity aside from the instance admin, mods, and you. No corporation trying to maintain an image, no one stopping you from creating other accounts with different identities in other servers... It's just you and the instances. And if you don't like one, just go to another one, it's all up to you!
  And I love that it's going mainstream. Keep it up y'all, let's keep these instances active
- It is important, as closed source software can determine its own defaults, hijacking the initiative and eventually gaining majority. Just like Google is doing with Android and Chromium.
  Threads also wants to be part of the fediverse.

As an IOS user, I‘m glad that I get to decide between memmy and memmy. I picked memmy, off course!
- I’m currently jumping between Memmy, Bean, Lemmios and Avelon. Dropped Thunder, Liftoff, Olympus and Lemmotif. There’s actually a lot of options going around, not to mention the several other WPAs being developed too.
- There’s more than that now on the App Store in addition to wefwef pwa.

Another meme about Sync for Lemmy... You dare today don't you?

Don't worry voyager I'll never leave you and captain Janeway
- There's coffee in that fediverse

Infinity rocks
- Did you mean: Infinity Stones ?
  
  No. Infinity for Reddit is/was a FOSS reddit app.
  Now there is Infinity for Lemmy by another developer.
  https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy/releases
  
  I used the rocks to destroy the rocks.
- I'm looking for a way to block communities. Does it have that, I only found user blocking option but not community blocking.
  
  Connect has both community and instance blocking.
- Trying it out rn. Very promising, very material and such charm

Product is king.
Inertia is also in play.
Sync for Lemmy is built by the same guy that built sync for Reddit. Built using seemingly a lot of the same code.
I bounced between all the open source apps and have started using sync for Lemmy because it's familiar and it works. It also seems to be much faster than the others, maybe due to more aggressive caching/prefetching? Or that could be a placebo effect.
I was always having weird issues with jebora and the rest of them, and was not a fan of Voyager's interface.
I might try connect, jebora, etc again a bit later. Might also purchase the one time and remove for sync, might donate to Lemmy instances, etc.
For now I'm just glad to have a familiar interface.

All this buzz and the app isn't even FOSS!
- Otoh, I'm like "finally some good fucking food"

I have Sync and Thunder for now. I love thunder for the Flutter, but sync just works perfectly.
Maybe they'll catch up someday, but I'm okay paying for software now and then.
- I tried Sync, but Thunder has stolen my heart. Really happy with it and the development.
  
  Thunder is good, but not there yet for me.
- Okay, I won’t push you from Sync. But if you have the money to remove its ads, please also consider supporting Lemmy directly or indirectly (Mozilla, among other things, funded the effort to find and patch TootRoot before it became a problem). If you don’t want to just donate, switching to Mozilla VPN will also help.

Idk, half the apps look like they are just a fork of one app including sync. Why pay for an app that is mostly just a reskin of an open source project.
- I mean... Sync is a fork of Sync.
- Cause people like different skins
  
  Yeah totally, I keep a lot of skins in my closet. It's to get rid of the bodies tho.
- What? Lol. I've used Sync for almost 10 years now and have seen it evolve. How is it a fork of another app?
  
  It just looks like every other lemmy app. They all look the same with a few things changed and their talking points are so similar from app to app. It's almost completely impossible to decifer the differences without trying them out. If it wasn't a fork I wouldn't know because they are so similar on the play store.

Infinity for Lemmy just dropped, typing from it now.
!infinityforlemmy@lemdro.id
- https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy/releases
- I paid for sync but will tryout infinity. Curious how it is.

Wefwef/voyager all the way Ü
- Voyager has exceeded all of my expectations, it's great!
  
  Same here.
  
  It's like having Apollo for Android!! It's so weird to have the experience on my Pixel.

Shut up, don't use it if you don't want to.
- Lmao wow so defensive. Haven't seen this type of behaviour since I left reddit
  
  Defensive? I'm literally asking people to not judge others. I don't care about Sync and I don't use it, I'm on Connect.
- shut up
  No, no I don't think we will lol.

Sync had served me well on reddit. I don't pay for Sync. Who audits open source apps?
- Everybody theoretically. Nobody realistically
  
  There's always that one other guy that looks briefly at the code for the small chance to point fingers at some unethical, malicious or dangerous practices.
- No one really, for small projects. But am advantage is if the development turns for the worst then anybody that's capable can fork it and go on another direction.
- Who audits niche closed source apps like Sync?
  
  I'm not extolling virtues of an Sync's code. I also don't understand why a lot of people automatically think that open source is better "because anyone can look at it". All I'm saying that to me it's much of a muchness. I don't understand code so open or closed it's not a draw card for me.

Wrong meme format if Sync is the one profiling you and the other apps are FOSS.
- The way I see it, it fits very well: the hype surrounding Sync has also really seduced me. But the FOSS apps keep pulling me in a different direction. Just now I was thinking, I'll just stay with Sync until Boost comes.
  Now I am writing this message from Infinity.
- Google's ad service is the thing that's profiling you. Sync dgaf.

Jebora for the Win!

I'm on thunder for the amazing design, ik it's slow but I'm used to it cos of my crap internet

Don't let anyone pressure you into trying (or not trying) different apps if you have one you like. Sync happens to be the one that resonated with me the most, but other people won't feel the same.

I support open sauce btw

“Sweet, an actual meme post not just more discussion about Sync for Lemmy!”
“Oh…”

I’m on Mlem for iOS but it’s still early access, but I still love it

Is there a FOSS app that has the *peeking"-feature? (Long pressing a picture to get full size preview) That feature has been an absolute game changer to me.

What I’ve noticed is any third party app won’t matter until we get some more content that isn’t the front page buzzing about the exact same topic for multiple days. Right now ironically it’s all talking about Sync, when a lot of iOS users can’t even use it.

I see myself

I'm using Connect because Jerboa ended up having some issues, what are some good foss lemmy apps?
- We're still waiting in my opinion. Usable? Yes. Good? No. They all have some downside still and kinks to be ironed out.

Rocking Memmy for Lemmy atm and it’s quite good atm.

I installed both Sync and Infinity on the same day and I've mostly used Infinity since, I just don't get the fuss about Sync, I think it's only nostalgia from its Reddit users tbh (I used Boost for Reddit fwiw).

Don't worry voyager I'll never leave you and captain Janeway

Sure, if those other apps worked for me. But they didn't. Feeds wouldn't refresh. Local would show. And comments wouldn't post.

Paying to limit myself from the freedom that comes with using a browser?
- If I like it better then who are you to tell me I shouldn't pay for it. Like it doesn't affect you, as long as I support my home instance everything will be fine.
  
  Nobody was talking about you but go off.

Everybody in here is freaking out about devs having to eat are entirely missing the point that the devs are already eating thanks to ad revenue they introduced into their own app. Having to pay to remove ads isn't supporting the dev because the dev is already supporting themselves with ads. Call the cash grab a cash grab if you want, but understand that this is what it is.

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