A Very Stable Genius reveals a US president ignorant of geography who struggled to read constitution
Summary
A new book, A Very Stable Genius by Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, reveals Donald Trump's ignorance on key historical and geopolitical issues.
During a 2017 visit to the USS Arizona Memorial, Trump reportedly asked, "What's this all about?" showing a lack of understanding of Pearl Harbor.
The book also details Trump's confusion over India's border with China, his eagerness to meet Vladimir Putin before taking office, and his frustration with anti-bribery laws.
The authors claim their findings are based on extensive interviews and documents.
Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” I remember his emphasis and inflection — it went like this — “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” Dr. Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity but long before he was considered a political figure. Dr. Kelley often referred to Trump’s arrogance when he told of this — that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.
The USA is the worst fucking society because it's allowed these pricks that know nothing but think they know it all to fail upward their whole fucking lives. Musk is another prick exactly like this. These coddled fucking baby removed who are going to tear down all the things that allowed them to amass such wealth. They literally think they're above it all and think things like "stability" or "respect on the international stage" are jokes.
It's the wealthy managers, supporters and organizers in the background that have all the intelligence to run this circus. They get people like Turnip and Muskrat to lead the show. These are just dumb figureheads that will take the fall when the show is over.
The show is run for as long and as far as possible so that the wealthy owners can get what they want (which is everything)
And if it all works, these owners can all celebrate in the shadows with all their wealth.
And if it all fails, they'll be the first to leave, hide and say that they never had a hand in any of it.
The thing is though, that so much of that wealth is tied up in valuation of the USD, the US stock market, and the USD position as a reserve currency.
Sure, its clear they want to strip mine the US and bring US living standards down to match places like Afghanistan... But that really shows how little they understand how our own economic dominance was built on trust and stability.
Once we have lost those things, all bets are off on their wealth actually staying stable, too.
It's not just born rich losers like Trump failing upward. It's across our entire society. I personally know typical Americans who have been allowed to fail upwards their whole lives. Not intelligent people who are in roles they shouldn't be in. It's across the board. Our society is built to allow stupid people to fail upwards. There simply aren't enough barriers to keep them from positions they shouldn't be in.
I'm not sure just living his authentic self means he "understands" the worst impulses as much as he just projects his own worst impulses onto the world.
As a college instructor, it's difficult sometimes. The dumbest goddamn students I've ever had still manage to pass sometimes due to being friends with the right people or getting lucky when cheating in a way that I can't necessarily prove. I can be 100% certain that someone cheated, but if I can't objectively prove it, it's really, really dangerous (to my career) to fail that student, especially when they are as connected and narcissistic as Trump.
Plus, lots of people take advantage of more inclusive accommodations and more forgiving grading or attendance policies to the point that sometimes they do pass despite knowing a tiny fraction of the material. I could eliminate a lot of that by making the tests harder and removing a lot of academic support services I offer to make the class more "sink or swim," but then I'm mostly punishing the people that need my help the most. I just have to remind myself that it's better to pass a student that doesn't deserve it than it is to misjudge the situation and fail a student who legitimately just needed some additional understanding or academic support.
During a meeting with Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister’s “eyes bulged out in surprise”, the Washington Post reporters claim, when Mr Trump told him: “It’s not like you’ve got China on your border.” China and India in fact share more than 2,000 miles of common border.
Mr Modi’s expression “shifted from shock and concern to resignation”
Modi is all of us. Shocked at the stupidity, concerned for our well being then resigned to the fact Trump doesn't even care about either.
"When Mr Trump early in his tenure agreed to feature in an HBO documentary in which all living presidents read from the constitution, Mr Trump blamed others in the room when he struggled to read the text.
"It's like a foreign language,” he allegedly complained."
People are often saying "hurr durr Trump can't read," but even that is not really a joke - the man truly is barely literate.
What have you done America, what the hell have you done...
Look, if you invited me for a film where random lemmy-users read constitutions, I would fucking memorize that shit so that I could do it with my eyes closed. Old cursive sucks to read, and I definitely can't read it as fast as I can talk... but come on.
“I have had a two-hour meeting with Putin. That's all I need to know ... I've sized it all up. I've got it.”
The common thread is his default assumption that he already knows everything important there is to know. This is the sign of someone not only profoundly ignorant but also profoundly stupid, who has never noticed how this assumption is always wrong.
Well his hero was in the European theater and died by suicide in a bunker in Berlin so it kind of makes sense he doesn't know about the Pacific theater.
Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket's red glare it had nothing but victory.
Trump speaking about the Revolutionary War. I'm supposed to be surprised he doesn't "get" Pearl Harbour?
This loser has had a silver spoon shoved up his ass his entire life. Hey, weren't conservatives supposed to be against that kind of thing? Oh wait, conservatives don't actually have standards. Trump hasn't been forced to learn or grow because of that silver spoon. That's why he's an 80 year old man that acts like a 5 year old child and is about as intelligent as one. Does anyone, other than idiots, expect him to know anything about American history?
I don't know, he seems to have pretty positive views for the axis side of WW2. He'd probably be thinking "what if we had smart loyal pilots like the japanese, but with nukes". and would begin pushing for a supprise nuclear kamakazi strike against a nation that wouldn't see it coming. (maybe canada).
Billionaires are mostly all idiots who never had to actually educate themselves. Out of the 760 of them in the USA 12-15 of them are probably in the 130+ iq range and the rest are barely above or below the 100 median range. Even with their expensive private education most of them likely paid others to do their school work like george bush was rumored to have at yale. Then with nixon and reagan severely cutting education standards at the direction of their mutual consultant roger freeman saying that we were en route for a highly educated proletariat which was a threat to them and would result in mass unemployment (since people who are intelligent enough can easily understand capitalism is exploitative and many of the wages offered are not worth the effort input) now we are in a full fledged fascist hellscape. They are so emboldened they dont even attempt to hide it anymore.
“Hey, John, what’s this all about? What’s this a tour of?” Mr Trump reportedly asked John Kelly, his then-chief of staff, when they took a private tour in 2017 of the USS Arizona Memorial, a ship commemorating the surprise Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor during the Second World War.
"Trump had heard the phrase 'Pearl Harbor' and appeared to understand that he was visiting the scene of a historic battle, but he did not seem to know much else," write the authors, who quote a former White House adviser concluding the US president was “dangerously uninformed”.
Presidents are not actually superhuman. They don't actually know everything about the world. They typically know about as much as any other reasonably-well-educated American, plus maybe some extra stuff from their background. Donald Trump worked in real estate and branding. Harry Truman was a haberdasher. Andrew Jackson was a soldier.
They try really hard to give the impression that they're super-familiar with everything -- that's part of the campaign. But...they aren't.
And they're gonna have blind spots, like anyone else.
What makes a President especially capable is that they have a large staff of advisors and experts under them who can advise them on things, not that they have everything in their own skull.
I know probably a fair bit about Pearl Harbor compared to the typical American. I think that there are interesting bits about it. But...to be honest, I'd say that it's not really all that critical to be especially familiar with it as a President. If you're a naval warfare historian, maybe a naval officer, sure.
I think that probably, a President's important skills are being able to select competent people to work for them, being able to get along with them and willing to listen to them, being able to communicate well -- since they are the public face of the US and the face of the government to the public -- and maybe to conduct themselves ethically or something like that. Now...I don't personally believe that Donald Trump ranks very well on those characteristics. I don't think that he has the stuff that makes for a good President. But I also don't think that having a lot of familiarity with naval battles, even an important naval battle, is that critical, either.
The Battle of Gettsyburg was also important from an American military history standpoint. Ditto for the Battle of Bunker Hill. But...I don't really think that a familiarity with them is all that important for a President. If they need to get that information, they should know how to get ahold of it (which...it actually sounds like Trump was doing there, asked someone who should know.
I understand what you were going for with this comment but I think you wildly missed the mark.
I don’t expect presidents to be knowledgeable on all subjects either. I expect leaders to surround themselves with experts as well, but Trump has a long history of disagreeing with and firing his advisors and staff whenever he is wrong. This isn’t because he was in real estate, it’s because he is a narcissist and treats learning as a bruise to the ego.
I expect heads of state to take the time to know why they are visiting a place or attending an event. For all the planning and preparation for the tour and the ridiculous travel time to get to Hawaii from the east coast, you expect me to believe that the President couldn’t be bothered to at least look it up on Wikipedia? Not even considering that the president doesn’t just show up randomly at places.
Didn’t look it up, didn’t ask before hand, didn’t listen to any briefing, didn’t pay attention to where he was going. This isn’t because his background is in real estate, it’s because he is a selfish, inconsiderate, ignorant fool.
And for the record, I’d expect the president of the Union to at least understand the importance of Gettysburg.
To be fair, Pearl Harbors significance is vastly overstated. It was just a random fucking air raid like any other. All the stuff that led to it is much more important.
It was just a random fucking air raid like any other.
It was abundantly and absolutely not. It was the first raid on the US by Japan that was intended to show the US why they shouldn't enter the war and spectacularly backfired as it became the rally point for them to enter.
It was just a random fucking air raid like any other.
I'd call it militarily pretty important. It was a very large air raid. It was against an unprepared target, sank important parts of the Pacific Fleet.
It wasn't a war-winning attack, and Japan got unlucky and didn't have the Pacific Fleet's carriers at Pearl Harbor at the time when they needed to attack, but if you consider that Japan's strategy, the pre-war stuff and then Kantai Kessen was basically:
Ensure that Japan has naval superiority over at least half of the American fleet. The Washington Naval Treaty had Japan negotiate a fleet with limits 60% the size of the American one, with the idea that the US would need to be split between the Pacific and Atlantic. (Unfortunately for Japan, the US had already broken Japanese diplomatic codes and knew that 60% was the minimum that Japan would accept and negotiated for that, but it still gave Japan an edge over the US fleet in-theater.)
Conduct a surprise attack, sinking a significant portion of the opposing US Pacific Fleet. This is the attack on Pearl Harbor. This was analogous to what Japan had very successfully done the last time they had fought a great power, when they hit Imperial Russia at Port Arthur:
The Battle of Port Arthur (Japanese: 旅順口海戦, Hepburn: Ryojunkō Kaisen)[2] of 8–9 February 1904 marked the commencement of the Russo-Japanese War. It began with a surprise night attack by a squadron of Japanese destroyers on the neutral Russian fleet anchored at Port Arthur, Manchuria, and continued with an engagement the following morning; further skirmishing off Port Arthur would continue until May 1904.
In the time purchased by knocking much of the closest opposing naval force out, conquer and secure island airbases to establish a security perimeter.
Wait for the Americans to conduct a prompt major naval counterstrike aimed at the area, as the Russians had in the Russo-Japanese War. Conduct an battle of attrition against this force, making use of submarines and aircraft from these island airbases to whittle it away, without having to actually face it directly. Versions of the American War Plan Orange, IIRC a decade or two earlier, did envision this prompt response, but the US had long-since decided that in an actual war, they would build up their forces to an overwhelming level and then strike.
Engage it near the Japanese home islands with the bulk of Japanese naval strength. At this point, the American naval force would be weakened and could be defeated in a decisive battle. Japan would win a great victory, as it had against Imperial Russia at the Battle of Tsushima.
As with Imperial Russia, Japan would offer fairly generous peace terms. The US, demoralized by the great loss and with a limited ability to rapidly field a major naval force in the immediate future, would accept.
In practice, it didn't work. And it had very little chance of working, in significant part because the US was already building a lot more warships than Japan had and had a lot more ability to build more than Japan did. But the attack on Pearl Harbor was an important part of that intended strategic-level process.