One-time payment for ad-free is live in Beta 25. It's $19.99 USD. Update your app if you don't see it.
Tap the account switcher in the top left corner and you should see the option.
See my comment for a screenshot. I don't know why I can't seem to post a screenshot in the body of post. Every time I try it gets removed.
That's realllly steep for a single app.
As much as I browsed reddit throughout the day for the past 5 years....$20 seems like nothing. Hell I spend $10 a month of a few Patreons for ad free content.
Hey if it's not stopping you, more money to support the developer and signal more Lemmy content! I'm personally doing the $2 sub until Boost for Lemmy comes out and may switch. Dunno yet, may come back and buy Sync too.
It is but it also isn't. I paid $5 for sync pro for reddit and have gotten literally thousands of hours out of it. $20 isn't that significant in the grand scheme of things if you like the app.
Yeah, that's insane. Also the experience IMHO is not supreme vs something like Summit. I don't really understand the hype.
First actual full featured client, so timing is a huge advantage. Maybe we'll see a price dip when Boost for Lemmy comes out.
I'm on the verge. Let's be honest, it's fucking expensive. Where I live it's pretty much an entire day's worth of work to buy this app remove ads. I understand LJ wanting to be paid for his work, but this steep pricing seems like he doesn't believe in Lemmy and just wants to capitalise on it before it eventually goes to shit. Let me just point out greed was what originally drived us all off reddit.
I bet if they sold a version called Sync-Budget for $4 they'd sell more than five times the amount than Sync-Ultimate.
I'm doing the ultra at about $23 cdn per year. $2 a month for an app I use about 300 times a day for years seems like a good deal.
I'm not going to argue with what you're happy to pay, I'm just curious why you are doing the math based on how much you use it instead of some other metric like the amount of labour it took to produce or maybe how much ad revenue you need to replace?
I see $23/year for a few years equaling the cost of outright owning a AAA video game (that will receive support and updates for years to follow too) that took millions of dollars and many thousands of man-hours to produce and it doesn't add up...
Life in London is very very expensive, it's one of the most expensive cities in the world. And Sync author lives in London. I live in London myself and I can see his price as fair, lol.
Yeah, nah. That's too pricey to remove ads for a single app.
You're not paying to remove ads. You're supporting the development and making it worthwhile for the developer to continue to create the app.
That it happens to remove ads is just a side benefit. You can remove ads from all apps using a VPN based ad blocker anyway (on android).
Last thread was complaints of not wanting subscriptions this thread is complaints of too expensive 🤷. By all means keep the ads or use another app. Imo it's not super surprising to be pricey when it's a one time purchase instead of the subscription.
Welcome to the internet
“We want this”
“No not like that”
Sync is good enough to get 20 bucks easily. If I wasn’t on iPhone, I would immediately.
God forbid you pay $20 once to support the dev and for an app you'll use 1-2 hours a day for potentially the rest of your life...yet you'll pay $10 for a streaming service you'll never touch for months on end...
This is why subscriptions are becoming the norm
How is the amount of time you spend on a app a consideration for the price? Using Sync more doesn't cost the dev any more so not sure why they would be factored into it. It feels like you're conflating personal value with cost.
Jesus, dude! It's a one-time payment for lifetime of no adds! Plus you support the developer.
People are spoiled.
Quite the opposite. I already block ads, I want to support the developer. But I don't want a subscription nor do I want to pay a huge fee for one app. I use a lot of apps and it's not feasible to pay that much for each one.
$33.99 AUD. I guess I'll just wait for Boost.
Any news when it will be published?
Why am I seeing $169.99 AUD?
I think that's the price for the lifetime subscription. The one time payment to remove ads it's about $20.
For people who REALLY love the app?
Yall not have liftoff in the way down under?
I'm happy to pay, mostly as a thank you for the 10 years I spent with Sync on Reddit. LJ is a damn hard working dev and deserves to feed himself.
22EUR
That's so aggressive just to remove ads. I get it that devs need to eat but holy shit man.
I think people (me included) have a very poor sense of what apps are worth.
$20 for an app you use nearly every day for years is unthinkable.
$20 for a single decent meal at a restaurant is fine.
Seems odd to me that anyone should think $20 spent on an excellent app is too much.
I think the issue is that Lemmy is still developing and we don't know what it's going to look like even 6 months from now. $20 for unlimited access isn't bad at all if you know you'll get your money's worth. I'm still hesitant with Lemmy because there are features that it lacks. I'm optimistic that they will be added, but I can't be sure.
I think people (me included) have a very poor sense of what apps are worth.
Apps, like literally everything else, are worth what people are willing to pay for them.
Just one developer.
Sync was Reddit for me and I didn't even bat an eye about buying pro at the time (around 3€ I think).
Paying 23€ for ad removal is just being greedy right now, I really want to support the dev but this is just too much.
That's lifetime for an awesome app made by an independent developer. And its being updated regularly. Honestly if I wasn't broke I wouldn't mind paying it. That's like 2 pizzas
I know it's "just two pizzas" the problem is everyone and their uncle wants two pizzas.... Everywhere we turn people are extracting us for every cent at some point you've gotta draw lines.
I've already cancelled most subscriptions.
Sync lemmy is simply too much.
Compare it to nzb360, one OF THE BEST apps out there, and he's like half the price.
Lifetime should be 9.99 MAX, then make lower tiers so people can still support the dev.
The whole pricing debate is so exhausting. Anybody who feels $20 is too steep for an app they might use for the next decade is welcome to their opinion, but they'll never have the same perspective as those of us who enjoyed a decade of improvements to Sync for Reddit. LJ is a class act, Sync is leagues ahead of all other 3PAs, and I'm happy to pay my share.
There are so many FOSS & alternative options. LJ is dedicating his full attention to a niche platform and has set up a subscription model that allows this project to remain sustainable for him & his team (yes, team). Feel free to go with any other option, but let's not pretend that Sync is the antichrist for being the first Lemmy 3PA developer that is prioritizing sustainability after a decade of supporting users who paid $2
too steep for an app they might use for the next decade
Lemmy is still a niche and who knows what will happen in a decade
The Fediverse is still a pretty big experiment. The first thing I thought when I saw that Ultra lifetime price was if Lemmy would even still be as relevant as it is today (which isn't that high of a bar, mind you) in 5.5 years—the amount of time it would take for the lifetime purchase to pay off as a better deal than the yearly subscription.
Not only that, but it truly is a front end for Lemmy; not the service itself. I get that the dev has bills to pay and I guess that this is their only hustle (?), but $100 is a bit of an unreasonable ask in my opinion. If I were rich, I'd buy it. But I'm not, so there you go.
Not that anyone should care, but personally I'm waiting to see what Boost does, as that was what I used back in Reddit.
Even without it being a decade, people happily spend $20 to get 2 drinks at a bar, go see one movie, get one game (or one third of a AAA game), eat one meal at a restaurant, pay for parking once, or on a trinket or toy that looks neat on their desk.
Acting like $20 is steep for software is, imo, part of the reason we end up in this ad-supported model in the first place. A lot of people don't attribute the actual challenge of writing software and the value they get out of it because it's so abstract to them.
Exactly my point :) This platform is unstable & the userbase isn't dependable, especially so in the context of 3PA customers
How do you make this project viable/sustainable? Price it appropriately. I've already completed one decade with LJ & Sync, so I'm happy to bank on this app. And if it doesn't, that's the gamble - nobody is forced to agree, but it'd be odd for anyone to argue Sync should be priced in accordance with any expectation that the platform dies in the next year or so.
I rather pay an annual subscription of $7 CAD than a one time fee of $30 CAD. Why not keep the spice money flowing in?
Because the money doesn't stop flowing out, with countless subscription services already, you gotta draw the line somewhere before finding yourself paying so much more for things you wouldn't have, just because you lost oversight of your costs.
Having the option for a one-time payment settles this discussion, it's fire and forget. Everybody have their choice now so why even bother trying to convince anyone.
It should be like $5
The number of users in lemmy is so low compared to reddit. Those who buy this app are way less here. In reddit there were 100k+ downloads. Here it is not even going to be half of it. So price change can be justified.
One point I like to say is yeah this price is too high for some third world countries. Region based pricing should be there. 20$ here is 10% of my income (entry level job). So it will take time for me to buy the app. Until then i support the ad driven model. I am getting far better user experience with this app than all other lemmy apps I have tried.
That is true, however this is not really relevant for buying a product. And an app that relies on ads where you can buy premium for $20 is just that in my eyes, a commercial product, and that is fine. But dividing the costs between all users to estimate a price is weird to me, that's not how market works and ignores offer and demand. This argument is nothing a potential buyer would consider when buying an app. And $20 is a lot of money especially in todays time. I don't think I have seen a price like that apart from really big commercial apps. But yeah if you want to support, do that, but consider spending money to your instance instead and using one of the other great apps available.
If it was $5 I'd buy, but $20, yeesh.
Elaborate
They do not value other people's time and also do not realize that everything on the internet is free because of advertising
it was 12.99 for a hot second if you grabbed it when it first went live. I was thinking about it, but then saw it went to 19.99 just recently. Imma gonna wait.
An hour ago I would have sworn it was $16.99. I had to edit a bunch of comments where I told people the price.
Yeah I was gonna grab it at 12.99 but then it got changed. I honestly thought it was gonna be 9.99 but oh well
I saw that, balked a bit and then went eh whatever i like sync so i bought it. I would have reacted differently at $20.
It's like 1/2 of the monthly entry level income in my 3rd world country.
There was some talk on Discord about making the pricing regional, no idea on timeline though. But it does not sound reasonable if that's half a monthly entry salary for you!
₹9900 for lifetime ultra, this is expensive. Entry level smartphones that the majority of Indians use costs much less than that.
I will stick to connect and keep buying kuro some coffee every 2 3 months
I paid less for my Plex lifetime subscription.
It is not friendly to regional pricing. Can't really blame the dev since their own bill are probably in dollars, but I think I'll pass myself as it is fairly expensive for an app here. I could buy like 3 or 4 full video games for the price.
Just got the update and... Yeah, it's almost $100 on my currency. I'm not sure if I ever saw an app this expensive before, not that I buy a lot of apps, but still. Love the app and lj has always been awesome, but will have to pass :(
Well, this is how it's for my currency.
Yup, same here. I was ready to pay something around 10 to 20USD, but in no way am I ever paying close to 100USD in a mobile app like Sync.
Completely bonkers!
way too expensive.
also no regional pricing?
I would never pay more then 8-10$ for a full game, let alone 20$ for lack of random black rectangles in a free app.
There seems to be regional pricing. At least in Europe
ah, right my fault.
apparently just having an American google account on your device forces all prices to be in usd.
installing from the play store web page remotely should make the app show the correct prices, but i haven't tried that yet.
I paid to remove the ads. I want to support the developer and this is the best Reddit app I used as well.
Having said that, this is a really steep price tbh and will be a hard sell for my friends. I am loyal to Sync and still see value in this price since I use it so much. But it really is steep.
TWENTY DOLLARS ???? bro $20 for an ad-free version of an app is nuts
Twenty dollars one time in a world of subscriptions for an app you use hours a day really isn’t that bad. Think how much you spend on other luxuries in your day to day and $20 doesn’t get you that much.
People would have just grabbed it if it was a much lower price. He'd have bagged an initial fortune.
Unfortunately, he's priced it such that people who are already feeling the pinch will question the price of the purchase and need justification.
I thought it was $20 for a year and $99 for lifetime?
The yearly fee includes extra features
The $99 is for sync ultra with ad free and extra services. For $20 you only get ad free. You can also subscribe to sync ultra for $20 per year.
Sync ultra provides services like an online translation that have to be paid by the developer. Thus the subscription.
WinRAR is in the same ball park. Seems reasonable. $20 is the pre Adpocalypse price for small software. It's the insanely low price of apps when Smartphones started that where off. Now we are back again.
2000₹ for removing ads is too much. With that money one can buy a raspberry pi and set up pihole to block ads on their whole network.
But that does not help the developer.
Shit just works
People (including myself) gladly pay for convenience of being able to do it in the app, and that just works anywhere. Pihole is limited to your home, unless you go down the route of a personal VPN connection too.
This might be dumb but uhhh what ads? I've been using the app since launch and haven't seen a single one.
I literally do not get ads right now. Maybe it's a bug.
I do see the placeholders, but i guess DNS based adblocking is doing its job.
Me too I'm so confused
Turns out the 2.99 for life doesn't quite keep the lights on anymore.
Maybe we just need to go back to paying for every major version. that way people can have what they want.
It could very well be economics of scale. How many people are using Lemmy and Sync for Lemmy compared to Reddit?
Well, there is a subscription option. :)
And $1.50 a month to help a developer bring people here is worth it. I pay $10 a month to my instance for the same reason.
I don't exactly understand why the 20$ translate to 22€, when the euro is stronger than the dollar 🤔
Taxes. US prices are always net prices, as taxes are depending on which state you live in. 20 USD = 18.28 € + 19 % taxes (let's take the German one) = 21.75 €. If you are from Italy you are even better off, as with your VAT it would be 22 % = 22.3 €.
Paid. Haven't actually seen any ads. The only complaint that I have, is that u/spez doesn't get a notification, with a comment on the value of building brand loyalty through respect and support of your user base.
Can anyone confirm, and this may have Already been answered.
Does the remove adds on the left pane, remove them for lifetime at 20$?
Edit: seems like 20$ will be ads removed lifetime but No fancy features.
Edit: seems like 20$ will be ads removed lifetime but No fancy features.
As far as I can tell this is the case. Fair enough with how long Sync for Reddit lasted.
I saw someone saying there would be an ultra lifetime payment option coming as well, although not a part of the discord so can't confirm that.
I've just checked, the lifetime price is showing up as £95.99 to me ($120) that seems a bit steep!
$100 is a lifetime purchase of all the fancy features or whatever, 20 is just the one time purchase to remove ads
I'll probably stick to something open source for myself, but wanted to clarify
Then don't buy it? There's a $20 option that only removes ads
Where are the ads, anyway? I don't think Ive seen a single ad yet.
They're spread out nicely and are just simple picture ads that aren't trying to grab your attention.
€21.99 in Belgium.
Same in France
Happily, thank you for not forcing a subscription model!
In Israel it's $100 for lifetime!!! This shit is insane lol what the fuck?!
That's for ultra. (and it's pretty much the same price everywhere) If you just want the ad-free version it should be ~$20. Tap the profile icon in the top left corner, then "remove ads".
Same in USA.
Love the username
I wish ljd would do regional pricing. There are parts of the world where $20 is prohibitively expensive.
Screenshot:
That username masking works really well 😶🌫️
It's been reported as a bug. I decided to remove that portion of the screenshot.
I fully recognize I'm in a position of relative privilege, but I am more than happy paying an annual subscription of <$20 for an app like this.
Building an app of this quality with this level of polish is a massive time investment, and I'm more than happy to reward that time with less money per year than I spent doordashing lunch this afternoon because I was too lazy to make myself a sandwich.
Really slick and professional looking app but, you gotta make price adjustments for the purchasing power. Especially for the ad removal option. My income and ad revenues you will be getting from me are way less than that of the US and EU users.
I would probably buy premium if it was $20 but $99 is way too high.
And $20 just to remove ads is also a lot, at least for me. I have a dns level ad blocker and it's needed these days in the extreamly hostile user environment we exist in.
god, honestly this has kinda turned me off even trying sync at all. liftoff works fine, and these devs are neither asking me for money, nor showing me advertisements.
i sincerely hope no one is out here thinking they’re gonna earn a living with an unofficial-app for a fledgling social media service, for which there currently exists no fewer than ELEVEN other fully featured apps in the google play store.
And that's a perfectly fine and respectable position to have. In the mean time, I'm gonna go find where I can enter my credit card
hell yeah bro, i’m glad you found a client you like!
I've used 5 of them. Not a single one is what I would call "fully featured" compared to the million features I loved in Sync for Reddit. Sync for Lemmy promises to be as good, but for Lemmy. That's worth money to me. If that doesn't describe you, or most people, then OK.
i’ve used 3 and none of them were missing features i needed, what are you referring to exactly? lack of messages is something i’ve seen, and i don’t make use of them myself so i admit i wouldn’t notice them missing. what is there beyond that, customization options?
i’m not trying to be a shit by the way, i’m genuinely curious.
Will there be a premium app in the store? I recall the reddit version with IAP periodically having issues with purchases not being recognized. I'd rather spend my money on that then.
Google doesn't permit multiple versions of the same app anymore plus the dev already fixed that issue 1 year ago
This caused major issues with Google before, so I don't think so.
$25 / €23 in Norway. That's pretty pretty steep (งツ)ว
15 euros in eastern Europe
€23 in Poland 😬
I guess you're Western Europe now. Welcome aboard.
Yesterday it was 69,99 PLN which was rather high but not that bad, but today I saw the price went up to 99,99 PLN. As much as I like Sync I'm not going to pay this much to remove ads.
I see PLN 99.99.
I bought the yearly subscription before there was a lifetime option. Is it possible to switch?
Cancel your subscription on Play, go to Sync Ultra settings and click the Reset button at the bottom.
Thanks. I cancelled my subscription, updated the app, and saw the jaw dropping price of $99. Turns out you can pay $20 to remove ads through the Profile menu on the top left. That was what I wanted all along.
Me too. I don't see an option to make the switch.
£18.99
Is the pound near parity with the dollar again? Or is this that ballshit where you don't factor in your taxes but we do?
It's pretty steep. But I appreciate the option at least. I generally hate apps that only give subscriptions so at least it's here and the dev has every right to charge what he feels it is worth (likewise you have every right to not see that value). I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks
Thank you! This is what I wanted. Paid as soon as it appeared. Worked out to be about $30 cad, worth it to me.
100% Done
£12.99 in the UK
Just use liftoff wtf are you doing? Lmfao no ads here
Or Thunder...
Before saying that the ad-free version is not 19.99, please update your app to the latest version. You will see the new option to only buy lifetime ad-free.
23,6 USD after conversations from Mexican pesos.
Aaannd.... Done.
Amazing work @ljdawson@lemmy.world!
Kbin PWA just keeps getting better and better lol
I do agree with the sentiment that the price is a tad steep. I think $10 is a more agreeable price imo.
Personally I still prefer the $17 a month considering that backing up my settings through the cloud is an important and convenient feature since I own multiple devices and 8 lemmy profiles (don't ask why lol). Hopefully LDJ has a desktop version.
People in this thread spending $100++ on SKINS in a video game : 🤑🤑🤑
Same people Spending $20 to support the app you use hundreds of times a day : 😡🤬
I get that developer needs to eat and I kinda fully support it but I think it would be good to have a region based pricing. I think $20 would not be much to a person in US or other first world countries while it would be kinda bit much for people in 3rd world countries (where their currency isn't strong) like India.
It would be nice but then everyone would use vpn right?
Then... Don't buy it? Or use it with ads. Seems simple enough. There's a ton of other apps to use if you need
My fault I misread what you said. I think regional prices would be great.
It's showing up as $169 aud for me (in Australia)
Don't buy Ultra, just click Remove Ads instead.
Actually I never buy skins for more than like $ 20 dollars either... It's not worth more to look cool in a game.
Honestly I think 20 usd is reasonable. I think people here are being weird. That's like the price of a book or indie game on steam - surely an app that you read on every day is worth that?
Also Lemmy will continue to grow so the value will just increase.
I'm very happy to support a $20 ad free purchase. Did it immediately. Google Play credits paid for all of it, but even if it didn't id do it anyways. This is all great and jldawson is great. $20 come on guys. It's so worth it.
p.s. Download the Google Rewards app which occasionally will give you a 2-5 question survey and it will pay you between .10-.90 per survey. I get the surveys all the time.
I hate Google so that's a no... They pay you peanuts while earning billions.
Google is being rewarded, not you... :)
Holy shit, I thought google is a bad guy.
Are they offering me €3.99/mo just for subscribing?