Idc

IDC if Windows disappears, I just don't want to see Linux turn into it.
- The open source nature kind of prevents that. Other projects have been made an example of like OwnCloud -> NextCloud, Emby -> Jellyfin, and I'm sure there are more I just can't think of ATM.
  
  Oh yea? Tell it to google
- That's an actual risk. The massification to enshittification pipeline is real

That’s why I never understood the Apple hate. Granted, it’s overpriced for the experienced user and closed-source software, but it’s a far cry from Microsoft’s hold on the market.
We share a kernel for crying out loud. We’re practically cousins. Lol
- Proprietary hardware, anti-consumer practices, idk I can keep going if you want
- @disguyovahea we don't really share a kernel, but we do share the lineage, so yeah, we are cousins. I hate Mac OS far less than I do Windows. My pet peeve about it is largely political, not technical.
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  @drq @disguyovahea @carmin
  Apple is responsible for turning khtml into gargantuan webkit whose compile times comprise the most of my Gentoo updates.
- macOS is a derivative of BSD Unix. Linux was a from-scratch Unix-alike. The fundamental core, including the literal kernel, are different even if they act the same in many ways.
  If you're using "kernel" in a non-standard sense to mean "share some common tools, mindset and behaviour" then maybe, but that's stretching the definition a long way from what technical people would expect.
- Apple is what Microsoft wishes it could be (minus the difference in market share). That's personally why I won't give Apple any of my money. Really not interested in that locked down ecosystem.
- This probably isn't a popular option, but a lot of the recent hate on Microsoft have been standard practice for Apple for a long time.
  Windows 10 free update length? 10 years. Mac? 5-7 years.
  Baked in cloud backup? Yeah, Apple has been doing that for a while and a lot of things go to the cloud by default. If you have an iPhone or iPad, things you download go to iCloud by default.
  It seems like Microsoft is trying to follow Apple's model.
  I do get not wanting to support windows 10 anymore. The CPU limitations on Win 11 are very dumb, but it's something Apple has been doing for decades. I will be installing mint on my old desktop.
  I give them less grace with OneDrive. That rollout has been very naggy and shitty.
- Both being POSIX compatible doesn't make them related, is just a standard way of deploying portable operating systems from the early days.
  
  Mac OS isn't even all that POSIX. I would much rather have Windows or Linux.
- Apple is not Linux based

I don't want windows to disappear. I want it to admit defeat by slowly migrating towards a linux kernel.
Anti Commercial-AI license
- If I recall correctly, wasn't this already one of Microsoft's ideas?
  
  Correct. Azure Linux. They've been slowly adding to their Linux distro piece by piece over the years. It's more expensive to run Windows in the cloud than it is Linux. My bet is, Office 365 will one day give you Azure Linux with a Windows userland and a Windows DE. 90% of the users probably wouldn't even know the difference. The few folks whose programs actually need Windows will probably just fall back to full Windows while the rest of everybody just uses Azure Linux; saving Microsoft millions.