1y ago

You didn't bought it you rented it!

I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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I just read an article the other day that said LG is about to start charging subscription fees for washing machines 🙄
I will go old school and start washing my clothes against a rock in the river before I'll pay a fucking subscription to use my own washing machine
- That is crazy.
  Like a damn laundromat. So is LG gonna supply water and power too? Wtf are the charging for? The right to buy their product? Lmao. Fuck off.
  Go analog. Real analog. Sticks and stones baby.
  
  The article said the subscription was for "software updates" which really seems like something they should provide for free anyway so you're really just paying for the privilege to use their precious machine that you already paid for lol
  
  Software updates for what? New ways to wash your clothes? I only use like two or three settings in mine
  
  Knowing LG it's probably updates to make it play Jingle Bells at Christmas time or something lol
  
  Sounds like paywalling security updates.
  
  Those pesky hackers turning off my washing machine when I'm trying to do laundry!
  
  Well, if your washing machine was connected to the internet you would also need security updates. Of course the only reason you'd connect your washing machine to the internet would be in order to get said security updates in the first place.
  Great job creating a need by developing the fix for it in the first place.
  
  Alerts for when the washer finishes its cycle. Reminders on when to do a tub clean. More detail when certain errors or anomalies are detected. Additional wash cycles for special load/fabric types that don't fit on the dial.I have used the internet connection on my washer for all of these things and it has been very useful.
  
  My magical washing machine somehow knows how to do those things without an internet connection.
  
  Potentially more serious than that. A poorly protected washing machine (or any other IOT device) can serve as an attack vector into your local network.
  
  You're not wrong, but why the hell does a washing machine need to be Internet connected in the first place?
  And since the first answer is always "So it can tell me when the cycle is done," set a frickin timer if it's that big of a deal.
  
  I think maybe to turn in on remotely. Lets say you leave to work in the morning and you want to have your clothes washed and/or dried when you arrive from work, then you can turn it on remotely, but its still stupid
  
  My washer has a delay timer on it. Is that not a common option?
  I also have an option to start a small fan and spin the drum every few minutes, so it keeps wet clothes from getting mildewy. I use that every time, so I don't have nasty clothes when I inevitably forget to swap stuff into the dryer.
  
  Oh I agree totally.
  
  I think it's for "smart" washing machines that you can control from your phone etc. So that's likely what the "updates" would be related too...why you'd need to control your washing machine from afar is beyond me but some people love smart gadgets and will by anything that connects to their phone.
  
  I hate the make everything a smart appliance trend... Grills, washers and dryers, dishwashers, coffee machines... WHY? No one needs this shit.
  
  There are cases for it, eg programming a wash to occur when energy demand is low.
  In my opinion we should be pursuing technologies to do this that don't require an internet connection. Even being able to program a schedule into the machine and it can detect if something is in there or not. That would be enough since energy usage follows a relatively consistent plot. These companies don't give a shit about anything other than coming up with ways to make more money.
  
  The cost of the laundry subscription is likely to vastly out cost the energy savings it may provide.
  
  Ya it's a shit idea to go subscription in any situation. You really do not need any kind of ongoing updates/subscription unless the product was built around a subscription model. If it can done mechanically on basic programmable outlets then it can be coded the same way. I would be fine buying a laundry machine, asking my utilities provider what time to run it, and then programming that into the machine manually.
  
  Huh. I do my best to avoid anything that connects to my phone.
  
  Fucking software updates for a washing machine? If my washing machine needs a software update, that should be a fucking recall. A washing machine should be a fully embedded system imo.
  
  It's updates for the cybersecurity that exists strictly only because it is connected to the internet which in turn is something that exists strictly only because there's software updates.
  Megaman Battle Network was prophetic. Terrorist will flood your house using a phone.
  
  Why would anyone connect a washing machine to the internet??? To play Skyrim?
  
  I hope this is rage bait because I can’t think of any reason a washing machine would ever need a software update. Is it like a smart machine? If so then just let me disable it
- what is the difference between a subscription and a never ending loan
  
  With a loan you actually receive money at the start.
  
  A loan usually comes with full support and warranty service for the duration of the loan. With a subscription I bet you get to pay without receiving these benefits in return.
  
  Well any manufacturer warranty would apply to the machine regardless of how you pay for it
- Yeah. I think I'd rather employ someone to wash my clothes for me than pay a subscription
- man the world is so fucked up that I was more surprised that they weren't already doing this

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