Trump Indicted Over Efforts to Overturn 2020 Election
The special counsel, Jack Smith, has led a wide-ranging Justice Department examination of the efforts by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies to subvert the will of voters in 2020.
This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.
If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 8/1/2023
Washington, D.C. - 4 felonies, January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment <- You Are Here
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia - Election Interference
Investigation <- You Are Here
2 new grand juries impaneled 7/11/2023.
Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.
(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one.
Thank you for sharing it in this format. Makes it a lot easier to understand and parse.
I didnt grasp just how many felonies he's being investigated and charged for. It's wild
About goddamned time
Don't celebrate until it sticks. I have a horrible feeling he's going to somehow weasel his way out of all of these indictments and still pull out a Biden vs Trump rematch in 2024.
Ranked choice voting can't come soon enough.
I'm not American, so maybe I shouldn't comment, but I think Americans wanting change should pursue Single Transferable Vote (STV).
It's basically a ranked ballot in multi-seat ridings. This is the most surefire way to dismantle a two-party system, give roughly proportional representation, maintain geographical representation, keep extreme fringe parties from gaining wedge power, and allow for choice within a party to eliminate "safe" seats.
I really wish Canada would adopt this system to prevent our descent into American political tribalism.
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Thank you for sharing it in this format. Makes it a lot easier to understand and parse.
I didnt grasp just how many felonies he's being investigated and charged for. It's wild
It's not treason charges, but it'll do. He's facing 20+ years (not sure if the sentencing terms can be consecutive), and Smith's show-don't-tell approach is confidence-inspiring. They filed on DC, which is about as anti-Trump as jurors get. They are going for the kill on this one.
I'm waiting for the guilty verdict before celebrating, but I'll allow myself to be at least relieved for now.
Don't celebrate until his appeals are exhausted and the 2024 presidential election ends in the Democrats' favor. Trump still has a lot of ways to weasel out of this.
Bad hot take (maybe): I think they have him dead to rights on the documents case but this one is going to be harder to make stick. Mens rea and all that.
Reading the indictment text, it sounds like they've got him on mens rea
Btw, see my other post in this thread for live coverage.
I read it just now. They seem to be depending on the argument that because so many of Trump’s own people told him there was no evidence of ‘outcome determinative’ fraud, he had to know he was making false claims fraudulently. Which would work on 99% of the human race.
But this is Trump. That crazy fucker will argue vociferously (or his lawyer will) that he got bad advice from the co-conspirators and he actually believed it … and was reasonable to do so. May well be enough to plant doubt in the minds of enough jurors to hang the jury or get an acquittal.
Or maybe not. Point is, they’ve got him on the documents. This, while more egregious, is going to be an uphill battle, I think. Best not get our hopes up and leave room for a pleasant surprise.
