'Everything I Say Leaks,' Zuckerberg Says in Leaked Meeting Audio
"There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those."
That's what it feels like when you steal other people's personal information ..
Is that dude turning orange?
His hyu-man skin is melting.
He's clearly trying to make himself seem more appealing to the orange man in DC.
Symptom of fascism
There's enough reason to shit on him without this. He just looks like a ginger who's spent too much time (15 minutes) in direct sunlight without slathering sunscreen on his face first.
If I had as much money as Zuck, I'd have a full body sunscreen applicator installed in my beach house so I just stand there for a second and get my sunscreen.
They're all orange down here, Georgie..
He looks like he washed his face with rusty water.
You don’t wanna know where it’s been.
Oh I think we all know.
“There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those…”
Well have you thought about not being a piece of shit 😂
Like, isn't that an admission that your business has no value?
No not at all, but it is an admission that they know what they're doing is wrong and they just don't give a shit.
zuck the fuck is worth approx 229billion.
a 25mil fine is 0.01% of his net worth.
If your average yearly salary is 30,000, thats like paying a fine of 3 00.
edit math hard thank you @MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
300 would be 1% wouldn't it? It'd be like paying a fine of 3
🤦♀️ yes
So he cares slightly more than when I go to the grocery store but forget my reusable bags
ZuckFuck doesn't make his net worth each year. So let's compare it against US citizen net worth. I have stats from 2022
Average American new worth is ~$1,050,000 Median American net worth is ~$192,000
I hate zuck as much as you but it's important to be accurate and fair as possible when comparing statistics.
So it's like a fine of $19 if using median and $105 if using average. Still peanuts for a fine
Oh no...is someone taking your privacy?
That's interesting...
One way to avoid recurrent leaks is to foster a culture of trust and not be a ginormous dickwad.
Sounds like lady shit
I'm reminded of this:
The king himself rode a horse and shot arrows at a deer. However, the horse stumbled, causing him to fall off, but he was not injured. Looking around, he said, "Do not let the historians know about this."
— The Veritable Records of Taejong, Vol. 7, article 4
I remember reading this - IIRC the kingdom had an independant archivists division that was not under the control of the king, for the sole reason that kings would try to fit the narrative to their benefit.
That was a great read. Thanks!
Cry us a river, dildo. Meanwhile, go fuck yourself.
For some reason "dildo" is way funnier than "you dildo". Thanks for the laugh
It's the finality of it, I think.
Glad to bring a smile!
With that hair he could pass for a hobbit.
Dildo Baggins, CEO of Meta
If I’d had to bet whether this was The Onion before clicking this link, someone would be breaking my knees next week.
This timeline is absurd.
Instead of wordle, we need onionle
Something like this? https://github.com/tiquthon/onion-or-not-the-onion-drinking-game-2
Some time ago this was also up, but now it isn't: https://github.com/SchaeStewart/OnionOrNot
Basically this search: https://github.com/search?q=onion+not+onion+game&type=repositories&s=updated&o=desc
Mark Zuckerberg did not address Meta’s $25 million settlement with Donald Trump that will see the company paying $22 million for the eventual establishment of the Trump Presidential Library.
My biggest surprise is that trump wants to establish a presidential library. Probably has some plan to steal the money from there.
I want to be able to be able to talk about stuff openly, but I am also trying to like, well, we’re trying to build stuff and create value in the world
PFFFFFFFHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
settlement
He means bribery?
It's a building with his name on it, I don't think he cares what it is or does.
presidential library
It's probably a human trafficking hub, his friends check out people.
why does everyone treat me like I'm an asshole?
Asks the asshole
If he only took a glance at the very straightforward privacy settings...
☑️ I don't disagree to not disable the disability of Facebook to not share my conversations with 4721 untrusted data unpartners"
Nothing to hide nothing to fear wasn’t it?
Everything this dipshit says should be on Facebook
After all, he said age of privacy is over (or something similar).
One cool thing about these leaks is: if you weren't saying batshit crazy stuff, no one would care.
Zuckerburg says "Today I ate a sandwich!"
Nobody cares.
But wait......the full quote was "Today I ate a sandwich......of babys!"
the thing is he thinks he knows better than the rest of us. because he's a billionaire.
Now that's an amazing headline.
Gotta give it to the courage of whichever employee is did this. What a chad
Dumbass Oligarch complains about having to watch what they say.
I'm a pacifist hippy tech worker, and I would gladly draw a paycheck from Raytheon long before I even consider applying to Facebook or Twitter.
Raytheon is putting "more value into the world" than these shitheads.
"Would you like your evil done in the traditional overt bombs-dropped-on-children fashion, or the new we'll-sell-your-entire-life-to-the-highest-bidder-while-feeding-you-non-stop-lies-to-establish-a-fascist-regime style, sir?"
This guy: Bomb some kids, at least it's a spectacle.
(Edit for clarification: I think both are bad, and one has a strong causal relationship with the other but I am not sure I would pick Raytheon personally. It's a bit too overtly evil for my tastes)
I wonder if he realizes that's because no one around him respects or likes him?
People really do end up with the face they deserve.
Even the Zuckerbot trends towards nazism
Then maybe you should shut your Trump dick sucking mouth, champ.
Oh the irony
Honestly, it looks like the mall ninja tried the skin bronzer and then tried to get rid of it after. The thing is he’s going to have to wait for the dyed skin cells to shed off to replace themselves, as they do. The face itself sheds at different rates in different areas.
This is a disturbing thought, that he is so keen on cozying up Trump he tried the look. Has he changed his hair too? I don’t keep track.
I hate Facebook and that they will ban people, without notice, unless they record a video selfie from multiple angles, and then still sometimes permanently ban people even then, without a way to pay to prove the person is real or talk to someone or even get a reason for the ban. I also think Facebook is an arm of the government and is not really a company (quasi-governmental) and is basically a corporate rebranding of LifeLog and Zuckerberg probably got a 1600 on his SATs and was recruited to join the government while in high school.
So that all being said, despite my hatred of Facebook, what he is saying isn't that illogical.
Let's say Zuckerberg personally supports trans rights and thinks Trump is an idiot. He can't say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be "value-destroying." Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don't hate trans people because they understand science and how prenatal hormone conditions and epigenetic conditions means that sometimes internal senses of gender don't match biological at birth sex. (Musk is the rare exception to this and it seems like his reaction comes from ego and anger about being estranged from his daughter and autism/lack of empathy, and so he's a weird data point that doesn't neatly fit if we take his reaction at face value.)
So let's say Zuckerberg wants to say "We support trans and gay people, we have to do this so Trump doesn't go after us to remain profitable and not end up needing to decrease our head count, I hate Trump." If he said that, someone would immediately leak it, Trump would go Ape Shit, and the company would lose value.
It's hard to know for certain if this is what he's talking about, but if he is, this isn't really something to fault him on.
Facebook labeling linux as somehow evil, on the other hand, is a bizarre and shitty thing to do, so fuck Facebook and fuck this asshole who is letting linux be labeled as a cybersecurity threat. I also think Facebook doing this is because government, which has backdoors in Microsoft and Apple OSes, doesn't like linux and sees it growing in popularity and so I believe the government requested Facebook do this. I can't fathom a social media company would do this for no reason on their own, it makes no sense, but if Facebook is Lifelog and always has been Lifelog and Zuckerberg gets his orders from someone else, then it would make sense that they implement policies regarding labeling linux as bad to try to keep their backdoors in as many users' OSes as possible.
He can't say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be "value-destroying."
What's the point of having "Fuck You Money" if you don't say "Fuck you" when it matters?
It's all about who you can say it to. As much as elmo is probably trying to change it, right now the dystopian future of shadowrun hasn't appeared, and the various governments are still the big dogs in the pound. See brazil for a recent example. Even apple, famously trying to thwart regulations, has eventually caved to the EU on the charger issue, as another example.
He may have made a calculation about this not based on money and can't disclose it without altering the calculation.
Example:
Scenario 1: Tell Trump to fuck off for treatment of transgender people. Result: Trump using monopoly power to break up Facebook, truth social increases in power, no way to monitor hate groups effectively
Scenario 2: Pretend to agree with Trump and move hard right, monitor hate groups, come back slowly center in subtle ways, no rise in Truth Social users, ability to shape acceptance over time
Even with fuck you money, saying fuck you makes scenario 2 possible. Say what you want avout Zuckerberg, but he's no idiot. If I as an indifferent person can do a simple decision tree example in 3 seconds in my head, imagine how much he analyzed such a big decision.
My point is Facebook sucks because they make it almost impossible for users to use Facebook without submitting to surveillance capitalism and ban people without giving them recourse in a mean shitty way. He must be aware of that and for allowing that, he sucks. And as a US company that is likely in bed with surveillance capitalism and the intelligence community, their "private" ways of verifying individuals is unlikely to be private, and they offer no alternative. So he sucks for that, but I'm not sure he specifically sucks for this reason. He's even heavily implying strategic thinking is requiring him to do things he otherwise wouldn't and can't discuss it without altering the outcome.
Whether the end never justifies the means (same "we won't vote for Kamala because of Gaza stance" mindset) is better ethically even if impractical is another debate.
Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people
Eh... intelligence is helpful, but in the end does not inoculate one against BS opinions. Musk is (supposedly) intelligent and toxic as hell, Richard Dawkins is (definitely) intelligent and a fucking TERF. fuck, Jordan Peterson (for all his faults) is a demonstrative intelligent man... he's just also an asshole and wrong about a multitude of things.
I'll do a reverse reductio ad Hitlerum and say that a lot of people who had substantial enough communication with Hitler considered him very intelligent. Just, well, unhinged, with an itch he couldn't scratch, with murderous overvalued ideas ... But misjudgements usually used to justify calling him a corporal limited in perception are big because a man shouldn't have such power, not because the particular man who had was dumber than the rest.
I really think this is the exception rather than the rule. People who know what endocrine disruptors are, understand epigenetics, and understand how prenatal hormone environments can affect brain development probably almost all universally support trans people.
It's like global warming: 99 percent of smart scientists agree it exists, and the remaining 1 percent have random reasons to think otherwise.
The thing is people who understand (on even a low level) epigenetics, prenatal hormones, endocrine disruptors, and how brain structural changes can impact senses of gender probably comprise less than 1 percent of 1 percent of the population. Most people are very dumb and on lemmy, the average IQ is probably 1 SD above normal, meaning the average lemmy user is easily in the top 20% of IQs. The average person is so unintelligent relative to a lemmy user it's like comparing an atom to Jupiter. The Musks (autism) and Dawkins (old age and cognitive inflexibility) of the world are not typical of the intelligent people in society, they are just high profile outliers. Almost everyone intelligent supports trans people and those that don't are cognitively defective. Vance at one point thought he was gay and dressed like a woman. Being a bisexual who chooses not to act on same-sex urges perhaps creates extreme cognitive dissonance or perhaps Vance is less hostile towards trans people and is poltiically savy. (I am not saying Vance has bisexual urges; I don't know.) I just don't think anyone with any intelligence can be hostile to trans people unless there is something impacting their brain in a negative way (extreme lack of empathy, religion, extreme cognitive inflexibility, extreme cognitive dissonance). Vance is also extremely intelligent despite his political affiliations.
Unfortunately, the bulk of society are really fucking dumb and can hate trans people and have "normal" dumb brains because they just lack the logic to understand science and phenotype variation and how altered structures lead to altered behavior.
(not exactly a reply to you but a general reaction to all the news related to tech giants and Trump since the inauguration)
My take on the Linux "ban" is that it probably was intended to be a soft shadow ban (but something went wrong) on free software and open source alternatives. These companies are at the top, they now have the money and the government, there is only one thing that can bring them down: the people. It's as simple as just deactivating or deleting your facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Google accounts (talking to those with an account). There was life before them, there was internet before them and there are alternatives (we are using one right now). Yes, there are a lot of benefits to using these platforms but what's gonna be? Continue to fuel these companies by complaining about them and their CEOs and Trump, on their platforms, or leave and stop being part of the problem?
I think the government created Facebook, Zuckerberg is a highly intelligent operative with a back story (strangely made into a movie), and I do not think he always chooses his choices. You will never convince me otherwise. Look up Lifelog. The evidence is too convincing. Anyone who gets a 1600 on the SATs gets recruited and he likely got that.
Every other executive and most of the management in the country deals with this. Hell even the lowest level of workers deal with this in the opposite direction. Probably 3/4 of the white collar workforce deals with this.
We're all working under the same constraints here.
In my immediate private and professional spheres, I have a pretty good idea of who will or will not keep a secret. In that mental list, 10% of it is easily wrong that is highly situation-dependent. Each one of them that would pass the information on has their own private and professional sphere whom they think won't pass information.
It is simply not possible to pass information to your entire company without expecting it to get out.
It might piss him off but it's absolutely to be expected. If you want to tell your company that Trump has you by the balls without getting in trouble, you say: We have recently made some very controversial changes to our policies. We as a company do not support these controversial changes and and we are not able to disclose details about the situation, We are being coerced to make these changes, and we really have no choice other than to comply or severely modify the operation of our company.
That right there tells you what's going on, But in such a vague method that it can't be reported back to the orange goblin.
Your internal meetings constitute legitimate interests and will be shared with our 8 billion partners
[ ok ]
Maybe think about not saying shit that you’d be afraid would leak.
well that is what he's saying. what he should try is thinking about why the things he says are so "value-destroying".
There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those.
Mmhmm.
Them stop talking Mark.
r/nottheonion
If someone put journalists email in every single email distro, and it stayed there past an upgrade so no one knew who did it, and every single internal memo was simply sent to a news reporter... That would be so damn funny. You know they got email distro's with thousands of emails... Wouldn't have been hard todo 2-3 yrs ago...
