Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps

Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.

Stop paying for, and using Spotify. That way you know that you aren't supporting him.

I switched to Tidal when he first started going on with the COVID misinformation. Haven't looked back.

Highly recommend piracy.

Then stop giving Spotify your money. Thats on you.

They even had the gall to put this piece of shit in my Recommended Podcasts feed. Back to SoulSeek it is for me!

Fuck Spotify for using money to pay ANY podcast to be exclusively there.

Podcasts are an open medium that is decentralized and allows free choice of client and they are trying to monopolize it

I canceled Spotify for Tidal when they announced the big deal for him. They are not as good as Spotify at helping me find new music, but they seem less evil. I put "Rogan" as my reason from cancelling.

Use xManager. All the benefits excluding downloading songs. It's updated once in a while too

I use a patched spotify apk for android and a spotify webapp with ublock origin on my PC. I've never needed to pay for premium and it works just fine.

Switched to Apple Music when Spotify brought him on. Apple Music is not nearly as good from a UI perspective so thinking about Tidal or Amazon Music now. You would think Apple would have a better and more reliable UI at this point.

Then unsubscribe and stop whining? You have other options available.

pesant-minded

My comrad in class, unless you are a multi-millionare we are all peasants together. Many of us have excellent minds, as you likely do yourself. Do not tie our mental capability to our economic caste.

I don't like "talky" podcasts so I never listened but there was a time when hearing about an interesting guest he had made me inclined to look them up.

Now when I hear someone was on his show I default to assuming they're a crackpot. And I've only been wrong about that like twice.

What does it mean to be peasant-minded and why are you using it as an insult.

Rogan flips like a light switch. One day he's all about the science and the next he's got some mouth breather telling him the moon is made out of cheese.

He's basically the character he played on News Radio, except with an audience and too much money.

Of course he's brain damaged, this is the kind of political discourse that comes from a.guy who gets kicked in the head for fun.

Tangerine Mussolini.

He's a terrible interviewer. I attempted to listen to one of his podcasts many years ago because the interviewee was someone I was interested in. Joe Rogan quite obviously had no fucking clue about the specifics of why this person is notable, and his line of questioning was uneducated and irritating.

I never tried to listen/watch to Rogan again.

He's stupid. He used to think the Moon landing was faked.

He can be both.

It's Schrodinger's Douchebag:

1. say outrageous thing
2. gauge reaction
   3a. if reaction is good for self - repeat outrageous thing
   3b. if reaction is not good for self - dismiss outrageous thing as "joke"

He's been hit in the head a lot. Made a career out of being hit in the head.

I would argue that someone who says outrageous lies to garner attention is actually stupid, regardless of whether he believes it or not.

I hope he gets sued into poverty, but I have no faith in our legal system.

I've always believed they were serious about learning. I remember being frustrated that people are often abusive instead of explaining why dumb thoughts are dumb but after like 10 years of multi-hour interviews with smart people they don't seem to be making much progress. Maybe there is a constant inflow of new dumb listeners, and most last a few years and kind of graduate out of listening, but he has to stay the same for the whole thing to work.

In their minds did they think that by physically occupying a building they therefore thought the country belonged to them or something? Still trying to piece together how they thought storming the capital would result in successfully over throwing the gov. Just another thing to define how absolutely ass backwards this timeline is.

Same with his fans.

What he doesn't get is that you need a accompanying talking therapy if you make a show like that, personal invested and frequent. Even the most grounded character would start to drift, sooner or later. We are after all just human and nobody can fight that in the long run alone.

Look up the Dunning Kruger Effect.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias[2] whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a type of task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge.

Reality is a team sport, to some people.

What's true today is handed down by people above you, and if they belong above you, they must be better than you. In every way. There's only the one metric. People in this mindset don't understand expertise as anything more than sounding real smart.

Someone clever can't just be wrong, since that would require an objective means to evaluate claims. That is not what claims are for, in this tribal worldview. They can only be accepted or rejected based on interpersonal trust.

And they think that's all you're doing, because they think that's all there is.

This is why every argument you have with these people is frustrating nonsense. They don't have a stable set of beliefs you can interact with. They have slogans. They will freely shuffle through them to win the conversation by finding plausible excuses. Consistency means less than nothing. It's an obstacle to making good moves in this stupid word game.

This is what defines conservatism. This is all there is to conservatism. It's the Oops All Hierarchy worldview. There is no other force in that moral universe. They can claim high-minded ideals, but they'll flit between contradictory bullshit with zero self-recognition. So either they're somehow champions of individual rights while viciously enforcing tradition and also the Confederate-loving party of Lincoln and also free-speech-loving censorship nannies and also stalwart capitalist bailout-sucking union-busters or else they're just fucking lying. They're just... shuffling cards.

The only reliable predictor of what they'll say is whether they're talking about the ingroup or the outgroup. They will make whatever mouth noises protect and elevate the ingroup. They will make whatever mouth noises attack and denigrate the outgroup.

I understand why they don't see this division. What the hell is our excuse?

Success and fame to go with it will often have that effect when the fool don't think they deserve it themselves. They feel special as a result and get completely blinded and selfabsorbed by their own greed and ego, especially once the money rolls in.

I feel that Joe Rogan is quite open about not really knowing much about anything. It's a real shame. I'd be interested in some of his podcasts, if only the host knew what they were talking about

I like how you think. Do you have your own podcast by any chance?

Was he not the guy who got millions of parents twisted up about litter boxes in schools only to find out he made the whole thing up?

When people tell you who you are, believe them.

Do people listen to Joe himself? The only times I've ever listened to his podcasts is when I'm interested in whatever guest he has on.

I can't believe people really support restricting free speech, it blows my mind. Is it a generational thing? He's plainly a bit dense, but even if you don't consider it freedom of the press, it's just one guy talking rubbish. And he's far from the worst!

To confirm, no, I don't listen to his podcast, mostly because he's quite boring and I disagree with him on most things.

It's just pure gaslighting. "That time you saw Trump tell people to march down to the Capitol after telling them to "fight like hell" was totally unrelated to what happened at the Capitol a short time later."

There’s questioning the narrative and then there’s just spewing misinformation and conspiracy theories. Rogan usually does the latter.

I listened to Rogan since 2010 and stopped around the time he moved to Texas. I just could find any more slack, nor could I find enough excuses for him.

I occasionally put on old episodes at work and it's insane how different he is. Used to have very progressive views while still exercising the ability to think critically on informations and events. Now every episode is flagged for misinformation, and he's constantly dropping the word "woke" as if to test the waters with each guest, practically leaping out of his jeans to go on another anti-woke tangent. He's become completely consumed by it. I suppose this is what's bound to happen when you repeatedly surround yourself with morons like Eddie Bravo and Alex Jones.

I don't know that he should be talking about chimps either.

I don't try to listen to him, but sometimes his content comes up in YouTube feeds because he's had guests like Neil Degrasse Tyson or Brian Cox on his show. I'm always torn because I don't want to support Rogan.

The funniest part is that boomers were arguably the "weak men" living in the "good times" created by the "strong men" who pushed some of the most progressive policies America has ever seen. They created the "bad times" of out of control capitalism that we're currently living in.

Fucking hell he's so stupid.

Thanks for the kali yuga thing. I did not know anything about that and the alt-right connection. It's pretty funny that he said we were in the kali yuga and it's the lower left corner, the weak men corner. He said "Hindus predicted it thousands of years ago".

From the wikipedia article on Yuga cycles: "Kali Yuga, which lasts for 432,000 years, is believed to have started in 3102 BCE."

What exactly were these good times before 3102 BCE? With each successive yuga decreasing in length, that puts the strong men cycle from 2,163,102 BCE to 867,102 BCE. I know it's religion and all that and not to be taken too seriously but I am certainly on board with everything before that period being hard times.

Could you imagine the bloodbath of live fire that would have met Antifa mobs?

I actually cancelled my Spotify account over this ass hat.

They're taking people's love of music and using it to pay off a hate monger. The average payout for musicians has been declining for years.

This and lossless are 99% why I jumped ship to apple music. The other 1% is better artist payout.

He jumped the shark when he interviewed that vegan MMA guy and bullied the reporter into answering a certain way. It is by far one of the most cringe things I ever listened to.

Let's imagine an alternate scenario for a second. Let's say there was a Black Lives Matter protest and they broadcast the same stuff that these guys did. "Come to the capital protest!" "It will be wild!" Etc. Then let's say AOC got up there and said "lets march to the capital!"... Imagine this happened while Trump is in office.... and you know for a FACT there would have been tanks in the street and attack helicopters in the air and solders with guns drawn before then even got close to the capital.

The lack of response is how you know this was a Trump planned event. Only a fucking moron would not see the obvious.

The accusation isn't that they staged a false flag. The accusation is that they used CIs as agent provocateurs. It's interesting that a bit of word magic will make the left deny something happened even though it's been a common tactic used for decades at least.

LEO agents intentionally incite crowds so they can claim them as unlawful and disperse them.

Remember the ayylmao.

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What?

I love how Jon basically destroyed that program

Some of his fans will try to defend him and say he's being stupid and you're not supposed to listen to him, ignoring all the people who will.

I disagree that he has any particular skill that is notable. He was also a lousy comedian, most remembered for his crusade against joke stealing than anything else (I dare you to ask anyone their favorite Joe Rogan joke).

He had first mover advantage. Then he started to realize the right wing hits were drawing his viewers, and went further in further in that direction.

The problem, from the limited exposure I have to him, is he does a lot of "I heard"s and "they say"s and presents it as fact. Eventually, the hearsay becomes "it's a fact". He's doing the same thing Tucker Carlson has done. I can't say if the man's an idiot or not but he certainly plays one for a living.

Oration is a personal interest I have. (See username) I'm not great at it, but it is an interest.

I think you're correct on all accounts. I've listened to a few of his clips, but I wouldn't call myself a fan or even a listener. His cadence is often casual but slows a bit when he wants to stress a point. He likes storytelling. If he speaks about things that are universally frustrating, you can feel his speech begin to clip faster and his voice raise. Good intonations. And he seems good at having something to talk about and staying on task.

Good and bad people can be fantastic storytellers. I don't know enough about him to make a judgement on his character, but I think he's a good communicator.