Does Lemmy have less personal stories than Reddit because users are more wary of doxxing themselves?
Does Lemmy have less personal stories than Reddit because users are more wary of doxxing themselves?
Correct me if I am wrong but most of those "personal stories" are pure fiction right?
On Reddit I haven’t read a true story since the 💩🔪 story.
I suspect some are AI and others may be creative writing exercises. Some portion are probably real.
Many of the exaggerated stories are fiction. But there are plenty of Redditors posting pictures of things they saw locally and other information which some could consider sensitive.
99% minimum
I mean those personal stores on Reddit are all made up
Indeed. What personal stories?
Even worse the majority of them are just reposts by bots scraping old personal stories people wrote, in addition to stories entirely made up by bots.
We haven't been infested by the vain Facebook crowd yet.
I know I am wary of doxxing myself, there's so many times I've withheld commenting because my stories are too specific. I've probably shared too much already and do think about just starting over with a new account sometimes. This is my 4th account by now?
do think about just starting over with a new account sometimes.
That's just a good practice. Change the handle with some regularity but it does get annoying to set everything up each time
I'd say more likely just:
- Not enough users to see that many stories being posted
- Not that many users to make it worth sharing detailled stories
- Lack of communities for that kind of content
You're just not gonna see a lot of tales from retail in a place dominated by chronically online people, engineers, nerds and somewhat older userbase.
For people unaware, there is !casualconversation@lemm.ee
Personally, that crosses my mind. But I came over in the reddit revolt and saw lemmy as a fresh start. Privacy isn't easy, but at least make them work for it.
Also, I figure (if it hasn't happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
We just had a helicopter doing low passed over our house and watching the flight on a tracker, it was clear it was casing chosen neighborhoods. The lengths someone went to sell whatever info they grabbed means it's highly valuable. The fediverse is open and waiting for it to be datamined.
Also, I figure (if it hasn’t happened already) some federated instances out there are nefarious, set up to harvest data.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen. There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
I think this mindset is naïve and unrealistic.
People were saying the same thing for decades in response to a small minority warning about government surveillance, often dismissing them with labels like "paranoid". Eventually, Snowden came along and produced the citations, at extreme risk to himself and his loved ones. It's an anomaly that they were ever revealed at all.
History is replete with examples of bad stuff going on for ages before irrefutable evidence of it became widely known. In general, if something can be abused to someone's advantage, it will be, and likely already is.
There’s precious little extra information that a “nefarious” instance can harvest that any basic web scrapper can’t.
You have a point there, but consider also that effective web scraping uses significantly more resources than having the data you want handed to you. Monitoring Lemmy through federation would be much more efficient.
Good point
Credit where due, it is just my best guess. I have no evidence.
I simply think if you have custom code on a machine to ingest data, creating a federation interface may be more suitable and stable in the long run than a scraper. The extra server load may draw attention or run amuck with security policies designed to obscure scrapers.
But that is certainly an option.
[Citations needed] or it didn’t happen.
This is such a bullshit challenge. I often see it used to essentially bully someone into a side issue about citations. It's a great way to avoid discussing the original issue.
I have knowledge (that I rarely share) that I am absolutely not going to cite, because I'm not jeopardising sources, or clearances, or violating my obligations to the official secrets act just to play someone's status games.
If someone makes a claim, I am perfectly able to go find the relevant citations myself, if there are any. I am more interested in the structure and content of what they're adding to the discussion.
An instance is not even required to access our posts and some user information. Most pages are just public.
Yeah but instances are supposed to e.g. delete posts when the user deletes them. A malicious instance might not do that. Even without malice, I know this doesn't always work because some weeks ago, I deleted a comment almost immediately after saving it, then kept getting upvotes for it; I found out this was because (at least) one very popular instance hadn't deleted that comment, its users were still seeing it and upvoting it.
People that have the need to share "personal stories" with basically strangers are looking for an audience first and foremost. Lemmy has way fewer people so the type of person trying to seek that attention will be going to facebook/twitter/reddit etc. If Lemmy was one of the top-ten most used sites, then we'd see a lot more of that kind of content.
Also, people who freely share details about their personal lives are generally not as particular about social media platforms. They're likely to use whichever one they have heard of the most, or the one on which they already have an account, like Reddit. Lemmy is far from mainstream, so they're not likely to think of it first, if they have heard of it at all.
It might also be that out of 97 million daily active users, if 1/10th of 1% are attention-seeking crazies, that's 97,000 people over-sharing at absurd levels.
I think it might be the case for some, but mostly I think that more people on Lemmy are less focused on themselves and personal anecdotes. More often I see people here reaching for cited resources to support what they're saying instead of "Oh one time my Uncle's friend's cousin...". It still happens here, but not nearly in the same capacity from what I've seen.
I think it's because most of those personal stories were attention-grabbing fakes and there's fewer incentives to do that on Lemmy
Settinging asside the likelyhood that many personal stories there are fantacy. There are just fewer people on this platform and probably the many new people from the last little bit are still testing the waters.
But primarily, I think nowadays people understand that if they put their data online anywhere, there is a chance someone could use it against them. Hence, people here are not doing it as much.
I think let me has less personal stories than read it because Lemmy isn't infested by bots writing personal stories.
Or copying personal stories from previous posts, and recycling them for votes.
You underestimate the amount of bot activity on Reddit. Some threads on all are something like 70%+ bot comments, with most being at least half.
It's crazy.
Reddit didn't used to be that way. Slowly over time it devolved into the same self-flagellation that happens more on "share my thought" type platforms like Twitter. I hope we are better able to manage our federations to keep that type of content at bay while remaining open enough to let people speak their truth in the face of oppression.
Nah, throwaways are easy
Happy cake day!
Dear
Penthouse Forumreddit, I'm a 20 year-old college student and I never thought I'd be writing to thePenthouse Forumreddit, but...It's the lowest common denominator of smut entertainment. The tech companies have managed to veil it all in prestige. It should be called gossip media or something.
Instead people think there's some kind of real human connection. Some kind of deep discussions happening.
We don't mind individual points for a story we like the feedback that people like our story, But most places aren't even counting overall points. It's not some reddit race to the top for who can have 300,000 karma. We're here to actually chit chat and socialize and that's just not conducive to throwing out a bunch of personal stories for shock and awe. Nobody is selling Lemmy accounts with 10,000 karma for bank.
No.
Maybe?
Privacy no longer exists; it’s now little more than an illusion.
If you use modern technology at all, even your own thoughts aren’t safe. Existing ad tech can intuit what you are thinking before you are even aware of it, and AI will be able to dig even deeper into your mind in the near future. There is no escape.
Fire and brimstone preachers used to scream about how God was always watching, but regardless of whether you believe in that sort thing, one thing is true: technology is always watching, and your identity and innermost thoughts can be reassembled at any time by any number of entities, and you wouldn’t even know.
Nah, this is just an excuse a bunch use to not care about actually doing something about it.
Source: worked in almost all huge big tech companies, y'all give em too much credit.
I never said something shouldn’t be done about it or that it shouldn’t exist. I consider privacy a natural right that we should fight to protect. I’m just saying that, whether people realize it or not, it no longer exists. It has already been taken away, and the repercussions of that reality are going to echo through time.
You would be surprised at the incompetence of the surveillance state. I've known people subject to terrorism investigations by world superpowers where the state couldn't figure out the basic facts about that person's life, let alone find anything that may be helpful to prosecution. This kind of fearmongering only encourages people to not be cautious. Not that the extent of surveillance isn't terrifying, but at the other end of the table is just other human beings. All humans are fallible, including the ones who spy on us, and we can both outsmart and outmanoeuvre them if we're serious about it.
It’s not just government that is the problem. The problem is that the data has been collected. It’s still being collected. It already exists. And think about that incompetence you mentioned… do you think that data is safe from less incompetent actors?
The best time for action on protecting privacy was yesterday. The second best is right now.
Damn, I'm sorry you have to go through that fbi guy.
Stop thinking bullshit.
This reads like, ease don't make feds actually do their jobs.
My fed Joe, gonna have to earn his pay check