Popular Tesla model had 'raging high dump percentage' for mandatory safety checks in 2024
Popular Tesla model had 'raging high dump percentage' for mandatory safety checks in 2024
4.668 eksemplarer af den populære Tesla Model 3 årgang 2020 var sidste år til sit første periodiske syn herhjemme.
In Denmark when a car reaches 6 years, it needs to be safety checked to be used on the roads. After that it's every 2nd years.
Tesla model 3 managed these safety checks extremely poorly, with 3 times the average failure rate.
In total, 1,392 errors were found on the Tesla model, which is three times as many compared to the other electric cars.
If you don't have a translate page button (to your own language), You may want to switch to Firefox. I'm showing the original page in danish, because danish is delicious.
Me after eating a hot curry:
Raging high dump percentage
I've tried to correct that 3 times now, with a couple of hours between, but none of my edits stick, despite I use the save button?!
That and the 6 years should be 4.But at least it's somewhat funny. 😜
It's worse than that, the first safety inspection is after four years, not six.
Sorry, I thought it was 6, but I checked it out, and you are right, it's already at 4 years now!
I've tried to edit my post to correct it, but the edits don't work for some reason?
https://fdm.dk/nyheder/bilist/2025-01-populaer-tesla-model-dumper-med-et-brag-til-syn
English:
Problems with wheel suspension and play in the steering wheel
Original:
problemer med hjulophæng og ratslør
WTF! How has this been allowed to become an issue again? We solved this problem more than 50 years ago with better Sterring rack.
And the law demands ZERO play in the steering wheel!I just saw a review recently with a reviewer complaining there was a bit to much play in the steering wheel.
This is probably some drive by wire shit, how is this even legal?
What a fucking travesty. My 18 year old Opel Vectra doesn't have that problem, and has never needed to have it fixed. A modern quality steering rack just works!!Goddam this pisses me off! I'm furious they allow this shit to happen now. Every single one of them should be permanently recalled.
Tesla also has an insanely poor accident record, maybe there's a reason for that!This is probably some drive by wire shit
No, none of the model 3's use drive by wire, it's a classic steering column like other cars.
however there is a case running between Tesla and the FDM because the bushings that the steering wheel adjustment mechanism is mounted with has some play in it, which is supposedly what the inspections are rejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself. Shitty quality, absolutely, but not an inherent safety risk like play in the steering column.
So Tesla just can't make it properly like every other manufacturer can, and have done for 50 years!
Wow, that's kind of a worse look for Tesla.
ejecting them with as play in the steeringg column, even though there is not any play in the actual steering column itself.
That's probably because AFAIK there is zero play allowed in the steering wheel. It's not enough that the column is OK if the rest isn't.
So they're rejecting play in the steering system, rather than play in one component of the steering system. That seems the correct thing to do.
We solved this problem more than 50 years ago with better Sterring rack.
No, we did not. Every steering system that uses a mechanical column, like the Model 3, will eventually develop play. The bushings and u-joints are mechanical parts and wear over time. Even electric (drive by wire) steering can eventually develop play simply because the steering itself is mounted used a bearing or bushing assembly.
Here's an image of the steering assembly from an Opel Vectra.
You see those things at the very ends? Those are tie rods and they wear out. You see those black booted things on each side of the steering gear? Those are u-joint and they wear out and get loose.
There's the actual column, the part that goes between the steering wheel and the steering assembly. As you can see in this image it too has wear points that will eventually cause looseness. Specifically there is a bushing at both the top and bottom where the steering shaft goes through the column. If you have tilt steering, that column does, there's another wear point. If you have pull out / push in steering then there's another one.
MANY vehicles, including the Model 3, also have a u-joint in their column. You can see it in this image. That U-Joint is necessary because the location of the steering wheel often doesn't align with the steering box on the assembly. Here's an image of a column out of an Audi A6 and it has a u-joint on BOTH ends.
I'm not arguing that Tesla's are great, they definitely have QC problem, but the statement that this is a "solved problem" LET ALONE one that was solved in 1975 is absolutely untrue.
Every steering system that uses a mechanical column, like the Model 3, will eventually develop play
Not true, I own an 18 year Opel Vectra, no issues with play in the steering, and nothing was ever needed to be done to fix it, and no other old cars I've driven had it, and I haven't heard of it as a problem you should to check for before a safety check. The older cheaper worm gear steering racks ALWAYS had it, and it was regulated how much was allowed. but they've been obsolete for about 50 years maybe more now.
For a 4 year old car to have it is ridiculous.
Tesla always had extremely poor quality control, it's just that everyone and their grandma just ignored it because back then Tesla was cool and new and back then most people didn't see that musk literally lies all the time about everything
Remember the full autonomous driving that every telsa has since 2016 that can drive the car across the entire US? Yeah...
Turns out Elon Musk is a grifter hyping overpriced low-quality crap, who doesn't care about the customer. Who would have suspected such a thing?
"Dump"? Is that a literal translation of the Danish word for failure?
Maybe that's not a good translation, I just went with the auto translation, and didn't really think about it, because we have the word "dumpe" for failing.
Maybe it doesn't work in English.I would correct it, but I already tried to correct 6 years to 4, and it doesn't take for some reason?
Anecdotally heard from a tow truck operator that im 2024, he alone towed ~40 Teslas. Make of that what you will.
Why didn't he use the tow truck?
C'mon man. There were 40 of them! He only had 1 tow truck! What was he supposed to do?
Sounds like a lot for a brand of cars that on average aren't very old!
Yup, and they're not even very common here. I'm in Malaysia, and it's branded above the byds, of which there are much more.
Det er særligt fejlgrupperne „bremseudstyr“, „lygteudstyr“, „aksler, hjul og dæk“ samt „styretøj“, som bilerne dumper på.
Ouch.
Brakes not passing the inspection is actually pretty "normal" for electric cars. The brakes see very little use due to regenerative braking and the disks start to rust. A large amount of vehicles fails the TÜV because of that here in Germany.
I had something like this on my hybrid, but it was fortunately spotted when I had my winter tires put on.
The problem was rust between the calipers and pads, which meant that the pads could come loose from even a mild impact.
Thanks, that's really bad, where did you find that?
Det er særligt fejlgrupperne „bremseudstyr“, „lygteudstyr“, „aksler, hjul og dæk“ samt „styretøj“, som bilerne dumper på.
In English: The cars are particularly prone to failure in the fault groups "braking equipment", "lighting equipment", "axles, wheels and tires" and "steering equipment".
Tesla braking systems are regenerative, so more complex than non-regen brakes. The other three categories should be bog-standard.
It's not clear if categories such as batteries, electric motors, bodywork, etc are omitted because they're OK or because the Danish authorities don't regard them as safety-critical in the same way.
When a car dumps this safety check, it's illegal to drive unless the problem is fixed withing 14 days.
So generally with older cars it's recommended to take the car to a mechanic for inspection first, and have issues fixed before inspection.
But with an only 4 year old car, that generally have been through manufacturer recommended services until very recently, this shouldn't be necessary.Unfortunately the article doesn't mention any particular safety hazard, but I'm guessing brakes are high on the list, because there have been stories about that already before they were old enough to require inspections.
Edit:
Changed 6 to 4 year.I read an article about how many more Teslas failed the safety check in Germany, and the % was extremely high compared to other cars! The thing that failed the most was the breaks, as they had rusted. If you live in the Northern hemisphere where there's snow, Tesla recommends to have the car in for service to clean the breaks, lubricate etc. every year. It's not a high cost (1200 DKK) compared to other yearly services.
In Denmark a car will fail with brakes as the cause for simply having rust on them, even if the actual braking performance is good enough to pass. This is causing a lot of BEV and PHEV to require brake replacements even though they're not worn and still work just fine.
When a car dumps this safety check, it's illegal to drive unless the problem is fixed withing 14 days.
I like that. Unsafe vehicles on the street are public danger.
It's weaker in Germany: 1 month to fix it, and if you fail that, you get fined, but you can still drive it for a while longer, and have more attempts to repair it.
In the UK the safety check (the MOT) starts 3 years after the car is first sold, and annually after that. MOT results are categorised into "pass," "minor (= warnings)" or "major." If any findings are marked as "dangerous," you can't drive the vehicle until they're fixed. Otherwise, if it failed, you can still drive the vehicle as long as its old MOT hasn't yet expired. Driving with "dangerous" findings will get you in some major trouble, including fines and a driving ban.
I admit I'm not 100% familiar with the rules, I think if the car is in the shop, you can get an extension.
But if it's really bad, they can take the plates on the spot. There are degrees.USA:
I imagine one of the reasons for this, is because people don’t have their cars serviced yearly. Most other car manufacturers require you to have your car serviced once a year.
That's still just not good enough.
My 18 year old Opel has managed 4 years with only an exhaust repair, that's from 14 to 18 years without a problem that can occur on an EV!
4 years ago I had the breaks fixed.I know it's anecdotal, and that I've been lucky with this car, but for fucks sake 30% failure rate on a 4 year old car!!
That's horrendous even if none of them had ever seen service for 4 years!These are the most basic SAFETY issues, that are legally required, not about being 100% top condition as new.
Who knew Nazis were bad car designers?
Ironic because historically they were pretty good.
It was the Communist that were bad at car design.
Imagine driving around the fascistmobile with the attitude "yeah i know he's a fascist billionaire destroying democracies, and throwing up the heil hitler, but i already bought this car" lol, gotta be the weakest weaksauce justification and it seems most are like "understandable" hahahahahahaa, flying the fascists flag everywhere you go
Wow the downvotes are insane here??
Whatever happened with "vote with you wallet"?
Buying a Tesla is as a matter of fact supporting Nazism, which has been clear for a while now. That's indisputable!
As in literally supporting Nazism! Not just in USA, but also in Europe!
