6mo ago

UA releases interview of DPRK soldier

www.reddit.com /r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/Fp8BVel9Ns

Make your own conclusions, but I think it seems pretty believable that there are DPRK troops in Ukraine. Doesn't seem like it changes the war regardless, but interesting update.

edit: according to a comrade of mine that speaks Korean, they said it's kinda hard to say. The last translation seems a bit off, like the person is overstating that he wants to stay in Ukraine, but it's still overall unverified that they are actually DPRK soldiers.

I'm kinda stumped on this one

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This proves nothing other than the depraved lengths the fascists will go to try to convince people that the DPRK sent troops into ukraine.
There is no evidence of where this video was made. There is no evidence that the man in the bed was a DPRK soldier, No uniform, no dog tags, no passport, no ID of any kind.
What is quite clear are the signs of torture. That bug eyed stare and dissociative body language is exactly the same in videos of recently released Palestinian prisoners. That man clearly would say anything to appease his captors.
All this is is a video of a man who has been tortured and according to redditors speaks and looks like a North Korean. His words hold no value because they are clearly not his own words. If ukraine and the CIA can organize assassinations of top generals inside Russia they can organize kidnapping a migrant worker and torture him.
If anything this video confirms my belief that there are no DPRK soldiers involved in the fighting in Ukraine, or that if there are, the ukrainians are unable to capture them alive or even dead.
- The man is from potentially eastern Russia and is Russian. I saw another post about the same guys where they posted the ID. They just found an asian and said they were DPRK soldiers as if Russia isnt also in Asia.
  Edit: see my comment for more context
- It's disturbing for sure. There is no way he's saying what he actually wants to be saying, whoever he is. It looks like the kind of footage you'd see in a movie about a serial killer kidnapping someone.

I saw another post about these same guys and this ID was posted with it. Altho i cant find that post this is a screenshot of the ID. Russia includes plenty of asia and shares a border with Korea so Eastern Russians who look korean or asian in general isnt all that surprising if thats what this is. Which unless this ID is fake it appears they are Russian.
Edit to add context from a comrade on matrix that speaks russian on the ID they translated it and had some thoughts on its validity:
This is a military ID. It was issued in "Tuva region", which is also listed as the person's place of birth. Their nationality isn't listed. Their level of education is secondary technical school, which they completed in 2017. The rest is too blurry to read properly.
Also, I'm not even sure if this is a valid ID. It has no photo, no nationality, no issue date, and no "personal code" which is an identification number for the person this ID was issued to.
- I've been asking some of my comrades that speak Korean what they make of it, but no responses so far. At this point, my response is based if true, and fake if false.
  I also saw the fake Tuvan passports. Pretty conflicted.
  a border with Korea so Eastern Russians who look korean or asian in general isnt all that surprising if thats what this is. Which unless this ID is fake it appears they are Russian.
  edit: They said it's kinda hard to say. The last translation seems a bit off, like the person is overstating that he wants to stay in Ukraine, but it's still overall unverified that they are actually DPRK soldiers.
  
  Russia includes plenty of asia and shares a border with Korea so Eastern Russians who look korean or asian in general isnt all that surprising if thats what this is. Which unless this ID is fake it appears they are Russian.
  There's 90000 Korean minority in Russia and some of them do serve in military.
  
  Idk they dont look fake to me. That document looks old. The ink from the pen is kinda faded and the pages have age showing on them too. It doesnt look like some newly created document. Which a forgery would be new.
  
  I edited my comment with more info from someone who speaks russian and had some input if your interested
- Last name: Aranzyn
  First name: Antoryn
  Patronym: Ayasovitch
  Date of birth: 1998-10-03
  Nationality: [blank]
  Owner's personal signature: [blank]
  Issued by military comissariat in: Tuva republic, Piy-Khemsky District
  Space for a fotograph: [blank]
  Date: [blank]
  Personal code: [blank]
  Military comissar (rank, signature): Sh. Kuglyar [signature only, rank is missing]
  Place of birth: Tuva republic, Piy-Khemsky District, Turan
  Education: Secondary technical, 2017
  Occupation: Tailor
  Sport distinctions: [blank]
  Marital status: Single
  
  All just a ruse for what is actually happening beneath it all...

it seems pretty believable that there are DPRK troops in Ukraine
Kursk is Ukraine now, apparently.

"South" Korean soldier framed as DPRK soldier, perhaps?
Honestly, though... I'm still inclined to think it's been bullshit from the start. How long has it been since they started this "DPRK soldiers in Kursk" shit - two, three months already? I think there would have been a lot of realistic evidence since then - you can't really hide this sort of thing. Instead we've seen nothing remotely tangible for the entire period.
We'd know by now.
- It's a lot of effort to go to, just to "prove" something that doesn't materially matter much... unless the goal is to manufacture consent for more aggressive action against the DPRK and IIRC there have been other recent efforts to do that like with the planned false flag thing in ROK. So yeah, it's bullshit made for an audience who is already primed to believe the commies are hiding under their beds.
- Might be a Russian from eastern Russia.
  Edit: see my comment for more context

Russia has been using DPRK military equipment for over a year now. First Hwasong-11A (Mars Type-11A in English, KN-23 NATO designation) ballistic missile attack was in January last year. DPRK military equipment, including howitzers (in the Koksan M1989 "Juche Cannon"), tactical ballistic missiles (in the Pukguksong-2/Polaris-2/KN-15), and air defence systems (in the Tor-NK) have been spotted in rail transit within Russia since November last year, and spotted in combat positions (presumably in Kursk) in the last few days.
I don't think it's a stretch to say that North Korean troops are in Kursk, I'd say that it's likely at this point. Are Russians operating all of this equipment on their own? I'd find that unlikely given that the equipment (aside from the KN-23 missiles) was first spotted in November - December of last year. You don't need any POW videos or Ukrainian gore videos of Korean or East Asian looking dead troops to come to the conclusion that there are DPRK troops in Kursk. There's enough evidence otherwise. The response to the ridiculous Ukrainian propaganda about how North Korean hordes are overrunning Ukraine and dying in their thousands should not be to deny the situation completely, it should be to try uncover the truth of the situation.
Obviously this POW interview does not hold any value, they never do for any side in any war as there is always influence by the interrogators, torture, incentives, etc. The only interesting thing here is that the POW appears to be speaking Korean in an unique accent. I don't see how that would be possible if the POW was Russian.
- The response to the ridiculous Ukrainian propaganda about how North Korean hordes are overrunning Ukraine and dying in their thousands should not be to deny the situation completely, it should be to try uncover the truth of the situation.
  This is a weird dichotomy to make up. Makes it sound like denial of a shoddy narrative coming out of the mouths of pathological liars is somehow uninterested in the truth. We don't need to give them credit for maybe being kind of accurate via vague inferences and speculation. There needs to be actual evidence, not "I find this likely or unlikely".
  Are Russians operating all of this equipment on their own?
  What makes you think people are incapable of operating equipment they got from another source, without the source people there? It's one of the primary things that happens on a daily basis in the capitalist world. And even if there were a contingent there to teach them how to operate certain equipment, that would not inherently be the same thing as having an active troop presence who is meant to be taking part in combat. That'd essentially just be a knowledge exchange thing between allies.

This is a surprising development assuming that the video is legitimate. What's the motive? I'm under the impression that Russia has enough reservists to continue the war for much longer than Ukraine can, hence them turning it into a war of attrition. Is the incentive for DPRK's military to receive combat experience in preparation for the increasing inevitability of conflict with the USA occupied South?
- It may be a Russian who happens to be asian i saw another post where they showed the ID.
  Edit: see my comment for more context
  
  Thanks. I figured there was a pretty good chance this would be the case. Not that there wouldn't be precedent. USA drags its vassals into pretty much every war they start.
- This is a surprising development assuming that the video is legitimate.
  No surprise about two countries with a military alliance fighting toghether. If it is true.
  Is the incentive for DPRK’s military to receive combat experience in preparation for the increasing inevitability of conflict with the USA occupied South?
  I would imagine something like that would be part of it. Specially considering the recent attempt of the US trying to use their puppet to start a war with them.
- Definitely battlefield experience and battle testing their weapons. No one wants to end up in a war and find out that their guns don't work, their missiles are inaccurate and their air defence can't intercept anything. It's the same reason Iran is sending their new domestically made anti ballistic missile defence systems to Russia for use in the war. They want to test them in real combat, and improve on any flaws.
  A lot of the escalation between the DPRK and ROK was because of the now impeached ROK president and the Biden administration exempting the ROK from certain arms treaties, so the situation should calm down for now. But it will heat up again, maybe very soon. So it's always best to be prepared.

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Edit to add context from a comrade on matrix that speaks russian on the ID they translated it and had some thoughts on its validity:

This is a military ID. It was issued in "Tuva region", which is also listed as the person's place of birth. Their nationality isn't listed. Their level of education is secondary technical school, which they completed in 2017. The rest is too blurry to read properly.

Also, I'm not even sure if this is a valid ID. It has no photo, no nationality, no issue date, and no "personal code" which is an identification number for the person this ID was issued to.