Anyone else use their crappy old laptops to host servers? lol
Anyone else use their crappy old laptops to host servers? lol
Anyone else use their crappy old laptops to host servers? lol
Yeah, using a 9 year old work laptop as my home server. Then with the surging energy prices last year I decided to switch out that laptop with a raspberry pi 4 as server.
Conclusion: I now have a laptop and a RPI running 24/7 🤦‍♂️
Conclusion: I now have a laptop and a RPI running 24/7 🤦‍♂️
Sounds like a win to me. lol
My RPi4s and 3s will out perform my older laptops, apart from the just retired P50 (gpu nearly died). That one is 6y, the others are 11y old HPs and a 16y 32 bit Xxodd (wierd brand). tje RPis are sufficient for normal server use, the nwew laptop (last gen i9 with 64G mem) can host (nested) kvm clients, so no need for extra hardware. (And still I save them, just in case ;) )
I wouldn't recommend a RPi for a server for anyone looking into this. Something like a ThinkCentre M92P will cost less and run circles around a RPi4, at not much more power. It will also support x86 and has Quick Sync tech which makes is great if you use something like jellyfin and need to do transcoding.
Even if you really need a low power SBC then a RPi4 was never the best option. The RockPro64 was released an entire year prior to the RPi4, and has a faster CPU. It supports booting from eMMC, and could boot from USB for like 2 years before the RPi figured it out. It also has a standard PCIe slot for adding SATA cards or extra ethernet ports instead of using the weird hat thing.
Personally though, I don't think the tiny/mini/micro PCs can be beat, I run two of them at home for all my services.
i disaseemble all my laptops so they are just a motherboard, screw them into sheets of MDF, place vertically, and use them as servers.
NAS, pihole, plex, etc
Do you have any photos of this?
Would love to see how this looks in practice!
Up! Also would love to see how it looks
You have a tutorial? That sounds awesome.
This article talks about turning a laptop into a rack mounted computer. Each computer will be different recreating something like this based off what ports it has and where.
Ummm... I need to know more. Photos? This sounds interesting!
Do you do a headless install like Ubuntu Server Preseed?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Preseed
Or do you install linux on an SSD from a different machine, then plug it into MDF mounted laptop mobo?
I would guess by plugging external peripherals to the motherboard.
My problem is that the ethernetports Clip is part of the case, without it, the Ethernet cable just doesn't stick. Do you have a solution for this problem? A photo would be really cool.
Hot Glue or if you wanna be fancy Silicone.
I'd also like to see what this looks like with a photo
I turned my ten year old Toshiba i7 with a cracked LCD into a virtual fish tank after the last fish died.
ATBGE!
Cool. A friend had one in a fireplace that played a fire video in the evenings - with the crackling sounds too.
I salute your creativity haha
That is so awesome!
Do you mean a server with a built-in UPS, monitor, keyboard AND mouse? Hell yeah! My old Samsung Laptop has been running my game servers for quite a while now, and I have an old Asus running PiHole and Headcale. Works great!
I'm patiently waiting for someone (anyone) I know to decide to throw out an old laptop.
Gonna bite their hand off for it, install Linux and proceed to fuck around and find out.
My laptop for home use is almost 15 years old. My desktop is almost 11 years old. My work laptop is 8 years old. Here they are talking about more modern and powerful equipment, defining them as obsolete. I don't know, maybe we should start questioning if these consumption dynamics are a bit harmful.
I can even run the latest Stable diffusion models on my 8 year old GPU.
based and sustainability-pilled
So what's loading up a YouTube video like? 100% ram and CPU usage constantly?
youtube is older than most of his/her machines ;)
They're usually very inefficient energetically though
My X230 idles at 10W
Yeah, one of my main priorities for a home server is its energy efficiency (and fan noise). Older laptops rarely fit into that. But newer 'ultrabooks' might be good.
Old laptops can are actually great servers—hear me out:
The battery is usually long gone by the time it becomes a server though.
Really old laptops have PCMCIA slots too that you can hook into newer interfaces. I used a PCMCIA eSATA card for a laptop NAS!
The battery is usually long gone by the time it becomes a server though.
Absolutely. I still have my laptop from high school, and it's battery has been long gone. The screen is on its last legs.
Maybe it will be a server one day, but for now it's my DnD laptop. Sucks a bit when somebody bumps the power cord and the battlemap turns off. But it's still limping by.
yep!
I used to run an old Dell R610. Used a decent amount of power.
Switched to an old 4th gen quadcore i7 laptop.
Been running great, uses less power, has a built in display and keyboard.
Linux base, Docker Env for most everything else.
And a built in ups if your battery is still good
I used to use my 10 year old old netbook (intel atom n270 2gb ram - ubuntu server) as a server for Plex, calibre, pihole, ssftp.
Now I am using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB Ram, as it consumes less electricity. Old laptops are consuming (except HDDs/SSDs) 10-30 watt. Raspberry Pi in indle consumes 2watt and when i am using it at mac power with an external hdd consumes 12watt.
It's hard to get a hold of the raspberry pi model 4 where I am unfortunately. I had wanted to use it to host some hobby projects locally and maybe as a low powered game sever, though i doubt it could handle it. It might be a fun project to try run an older laptop off solar l, I must look into it anyone has tried that.
Sure, I even have an old Samsung Galaxy S7 running sshd right now :)
No, I use the old desktops for that.
Old laptops usually seem to go to other people:
U a good person.
Unless her house burned down due to the battery in the old laptop...
All day long. I ssh into mine & run docker. Works surprisingly well. Better than the $5/month droplet.
I use old Lenovo tiny units... Can pick them up cheap when businesses upgrade, chuck in a bit extra ram, a new SSD, add it to my proxmox cluster... Then look for excuses to use it so I can justify having yet another one
My (very) old Vaio from 2013 just had a disk change with an SSD and is now a fantastic domain controller.
Yup! Usually running some local/dev docker containers for work, so I don't slow down the laptop I'm actually using with background stuff. They get hot, and I keep them in places where they get hot, but they haven't died from the heat yet.
Wait you can do that???? I have one right now!!!
If the battery still works it's got a built-in UPS.
Although, isn't it a potential fire hazard? Having a lithium battery always at 100%?
My first NAS was an old IBM X40 and two USB3-Disks.
those where the days :)
when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded laptops I've dubbed "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.
I'm actually hosting things on my 2 year old gaming pc (which is no longer used for gaming) and using my 8 year old laptop daily... How the turn tables.
when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded laptops I've dubbed "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.
Yup, I have an old broken laptop that runs Ubuntu Server and doesn't have a physical screen. I named it The Headless Machine (ha!)
As a test machine, yes. As a production machine... Meh.
Little memory, slow and small disk...
3 x laptops for a high availability Openshift deployment!
RAM and disk space are the cheapest and easiest things to upgrade.
My first server box was a laptop that was ten years old at the time.
Many years ago I used old desktop PCs. But nowadays VPS have become so cheap that it's just not worth the hastle, in my opinion.
Ongoing they still seem to cost more than a slightly more powerful system would in a year.
For years I had an Asus EEE PC as my home NAS.
Oh no! It's the EEE PC!
I used to but the fan eventually broke. It works if I flip it upsidedown so the vents face upwards but the CPU is still hitting 90 degrees idle đź’€
@rockhandle That's how I started. Proxmox on a 9 year old laptop with LXC and VMs. Even now that laptop runs proxmox with pfsense and pihole VMs and is serving as my home router :)
I feel personally attacked.
Yup, laptop for testing, old gaming PC for production.
One of my home servers is an X230
X230 is nice!
I'd rather take it out tho
Well mine has a KO battery and keyboard sooo
I actually used to host a pretty sizable minecraft server on a laptop.
Actually worked pretty well, was able to support around 150 or so concurrent users, and this was back in the bukkit days.
Yeah until it stopped working. The heat is the problem. It lasts for like 6 months of 24/7 usage.
A busted up acer netbook on a shelf in my basement ran a Final Fantasy XI private server for several years till it died and I migrated to something sturdier.
Display was wrecked, keyboard destroyed, trackpad gone.. but a single usb port and a vga port still worked so I was able to install an OS. then I removed those and only ever remoted into it. I actually removed the busted display and keyboard to it'd vent heat better - it ran pretty hot and the ventilation on that thing was designed poorly. The reason the keyboard died was actually heat related, melting its underside and warping it.
FFXI Private servers will run on a 2 decades old potato, so this worked until it finally died despite some seriously pathetic specs.
(1gb ram upgraded to 2gb, 1 ghz intel atom single core cpu, yes really)
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At work we had lots of old laptops, poor battery life, small hard drives, etc. I cleaned them up and installed pfsense on them and gave them to colleagues as home firewall/kid web filters. Others we popped xp on them and set up mame / emulator to give to their kids.
I love when people find useful tasks for older tech or extend the life of older tech. There is enough e-waste out there.
Yes I did, but nowadays I have nothing to host things on. Alpine Linux is excellent to host Minecraft servers and the like.
when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.
Thinkpad T430, i7 gen 1,16gb home server
End of life Chromebooks, baby!
I have an 8 core i7 Alienware 17r3 with 32GB RAM I use to host a pen-test lab. It's outdated and only runs Win10, but with Xubuntu 20.04 and VirtualBox, it makes a nice little vm server I can power up and down with plenty of resources.
The big issue with laptops tends to be cooling, but something with a decent CPU and enough RAM can still do a good job since in many cases you're not tapping the graphics chip/core, which is often the biggest source of heat.
That said, for small personal services even an 8GB Pi4 can do a pretty decent job.
Pi4 8GB is not easy to get these days
Ain't that the truth. Pi4 anything over 1Gb especially seems difficult to source
this is the way
I think I'm going to have to buy a wattage meter plug-in to see what my laptops run at with nothing running, a single Docker image of nginx, and then an API image on top of that. I wonder what my RaspberryPi 4 is pulling with my docker images running on there.
Yes! My old framework laptop motherboard runs all my home services without issue. Just the right amount of power for my use case and it sips power.
Yea, my laptop is definitely going to be a Framework partially for that reason. Being able to harvest the motherboard and throw it in a chassis easily is a great feature to reduce waste.
My home server started as an HP Pavilion P6803w desktop PC. A decade later it has a better case, better power supply, more RAM, better CPU, more drives and runs Debian instead of Windows 7. The only original part is the motherboard.
I have like 3 spare laptops, and another spare computer. I'm not running anything right now because this router doesn't support port forwarding no matter what I try (it's a firmware issue apparently), but they're always there for me when I need them.
You could maybe rent a cheap VPS and use that as a reverse proxy. Using Tailscale to create a VPN tunnel so you don't need port forwarding
I'm really poor and hate paying for things monthly. I had been asking my friends though if I could use their networks through tunnels, but no one was able to understand what I meant enough to be able to help. They would have to know how to set up SSH.
Any way to use other firmware? My shitty ISP is giving private IP address, so I just use tailscale instead.
That's the whole thing. I was on CGNAT, and decided to pay $10 monthly to fix it and get a public ip. But NOW I find out the fucking router doesn't even work. It's apparently this exact model that has the issue. And only this one. I don't know if I could replace the firmware.
Old laptops have little resell value. They work well as low powered hobby servers though.
Shoutout to my 16 year old dell laptop running god knows what for all eternity
I have one that runs my bookwyrm, owncast, calibreweb, and matrix (WIP) instances.
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