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geneva_convenience @lemmy.ml

7mo ago

Israel turns hospital they claimed was Hamas base into a millitary base for the IDF

~~Tanks~~ vehicles can be seen at the left wall

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Well, at least Israel made the sure the Hospital was a Terrorist Base, it's just that they did it after they took over rather than before.

Imagine how many tunnels they have.

Every accusation is a confession.

What does it mean that it's an Indonesian hospital? Is that just it's name?
- Indonesia Hospital is the name and it's named that way because it was sponsored by the Indonesian people.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_Hospital
  Construction of the hospital began in 2011 on 16,000 square meters of land donated by the government of Gaza.[3][1] The project cost IDR 126 billion and was funded by donations from Indonesian people and organizations such as the Indonesian Red Cross Society and Muhammadiyah, collected through the Indonesian humanitarian organization Medical Emergency Rescue Committee (MER-C).[4][5] Then-Indonesian Vice-president Jusuf Kalla inaugurated the hospital on 9 January 2016.[3]
- Yes just the name. Because Indonesia sponsored it. I will change the title for clarity.

Not to be pedantic, but attention to detail is important in this world of mis- and disinformation. It reduces credibility and distracts from the point being made, if the details are incorrect.
Those are not tanks, no turrets and barrels. Those are wheeled vehicles, looking at the tracks in the dirt.
Edit: those are Eitan armored personnel carriers. Notice the "Sponsons" on the back of it matches the sat image
- Good catch. My mistake for interpreting vehicles as tanks here. Corrected.
  
  Well, they both still belong to the category "heavily armoured military vehicles", so I think everyone understood what you meant with "tank", even when some of these heavily armoured military vehicles aren't mainly for offensive action and don't move with tracks.
  For invasion purposes, wheeled personnel transport is probably scarier than a tracked tank.
  A tracked tank will go over most things and have firepower sure.
  But if I had to take over an enemy position and got to choose either a personnel carrier's worth of infantry or one tank, I'd take the infantry. Much harder to kill an entire team than completely disable a tank.

truly the worst people

This way the IDF can say "See? we don't bomb hospitals"

For some people, every accusation they throw is a confession.

So it is not a hospital that is still used as such? Because that was the issue with Hamas.
- Yeah, if only Hamas had killed all the patients, bombed the ambulances and expelled the doctors at gun point like the IDF did, I'm sure it wouldn't have been a problem.
  /s
- It's not providing any medical services anymore. Because what need would anyone in Gaza have for medical services?
  Whether Hamas had or didn't have anyone hiding there, at least it used to have doctors treating children's shrapnel and bullet wounds, but not any more.

- Unlike Israel, they don't. A significant amount of civilians have died as a result of all the hospital bombings and raids. "No civilians caught in the crossfire" is complete bullshit when Israel routinely shoots civilians, including children. This is a genocide.
- No, they don't. The IDF, in 80 years, has never provided evidence of this that stands up to more than 10 seconds of scrutiny. You're defending literal Nazis circa 1944. There is no excuse for your ignorance or behavior. You're objectively a bad person.
- After 32 hospital raids no evidence of a Hamas base in or underneath them so far.
  
  German account tho. Expect nothing from my people they are brainwashed as fuck.
- Ever noticed that Israel never reopens a hospital? They only ever "clear" them by destroying them.

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