What is the worst fandom you've ever been a part of?

100% This.

So steam has the little update ribbon for games in your library, and recently one popped up for The Outer Worlds in my feed. I thought it was odd since it's not a new game anymore so I checked it out and it was for some reason just the announcement for Outer Worlds 2. Thought that was odd too since that also happened awhile ago so I went to the discussion thread to see if there was an update to the announcement or something and I got to reading the comments. It was just the most toxic and vile cesspool of comments. Literal mud brained comments like "no woke game, no DEI this time, this game bad because I can't fuck the asexual brown girl and she should be white anyway because that doesn't make sense in outer space" and other vile bigoted shit. Like seriously guys? You hated the game so much that you have to spew your ignorant garbage brained thoughts on an announcement thread for the sequel? Fuck me these people are just the absolute sludge at the bottom of the barrel.

I'm all for protesting a game because the company is evil (you know which ones are) but holy hell people, the vast majority of the comments were not that at all. Just fucking go play something else. There are a hundred thousand other choices for any respective genre of game. Please just all of you fuck off.

Not to mention that gamers tend to have the shittiest politics. Idk what it is man, but over the last decade and a half I've watched Steam Discussions go from a dry and somewhat elitist gamefaqs to one of the worst cesspools on the internet by far, and it has a freakin' swear filter, who tf would even risk their steam account going around talking smack like that I dunno.

A good community in a game is like finding the fucking higgs boson, you know when mfing warframe, known for having a great community back in the day - so much so it's a selling point brought up by reviewers and it's even basically expected that you will ask randos for help - turns the main chat (region chat) off by default then things are just... Not great.

Game puts out 58fps instead of 60? Trash. Throw it out. Start a media campaign about how shit the devs are at their jobs

To be fair, they're not entirely wrong about this one when it comes to current-gen games. They're wrong for their dickish entitled opinions, but they're not about how modern titles are requiring far more resources to run compared to the gains in visual quality.

And I'm not complaining about that because I think people are entitled to games meeting some bullshit metric like zero-latency with better-than-life quality on 8 year old hardware. For accessibility reasons, I legitimately can't play modern "AAA" games targeting 30 frames per second. It makes me suffer from severe motion sickness, and there's something about newer games that make them a lot worse (frame blending? Bad frame pacing?). The only thing that seems to help is running at a higher framerate, and it's getting increasingly difficult to find big-budget games that don't either rely on using upscaling and frame generation and/or a $1600 graphics card to achieve that.

That's not to say the developers are bad at their jobs. Rather, the industry trend seems to be that publishers are demanding more content in less time, and games aren't being given the time and budget needed for optimizing them before release.

I used to play DotA2. Some lobbies were fine. The memorable ones were incredibly toxic. I played for a couple of years, so it must have been fun, but all I remember was the racism, cruelty, and removediness in voice chat.

Capital G Gamers are the worst! It's fine to not enjoy something, but Gamers seem to spend more time getting upset over literally everything than actually playing video games. They also don't acknowledge that indie games exist. They'll complain every game now has microtransactions but pretend not to see the thousands of indie games that don't have any.

Starting with games like Rad Racer and RC Pro Am on the NES, I must have put 10s of thousands of hours into hundreds of different racing games over the years. But try to talk to anyone about it, and it's all gatekeeping all the time.

"Your favorite is too arcade-y for a real fan, noob." "You turn on anti-lock braking? You aren't sophisticated enough to join my clan, peasant." Shit like that. I'm sure lots of other genres have similar fuckwads that think they are the gods of the gaming world.

One thing that's gotten a lot worse is the hate for everything, I've unsubscribed from several of my formerly favourite YouTube gaming channels because they've gotten more and more about just hating on everything. Every game that isn't perfect gets dragged through the dirt and people love it and join in. And comments anywhere on the web about any game are generally 80% hate and pessimism. And if you dare to say you like whatever game the topic is about you'll get down voted and told you're an idiot and/or shill.

All the Dragon Age games have their own charm, but ultimately it's EA so.. ew.

Gamers have become total suckers as well, and on the whole are not very good with their money. From always pre-ordering to season passes to oceans of memorabilia.

Hardware has especially suffered. There used to be a time when gaming attracted technical people and there were brilliant forums and in depth review sites for hardware. Now most of those are dead with only a couple good ones left because everyone figured out you can just slap RGB lights on your product and call it a day. Gamers will buy it.

Prices go up and up, quality goes down, control over the product goes down, improvements per generation go down. But man there's never been more flashy marketing and lights.

You've obviously never been a part of the stardew valley community. It's incredibly wholesome.

I crank up the graphics settings as high as I can get them while getting at least 20fps consistently. I do think some games are just badly optimized though.

I also liked the original state of Minecraft dungeons and even got the first DLC when it was on sale but then they turned it into a grindy season based thing with subscriptions, yet another program ruined by Microsoft.

Apart from this I don't really have any strong opinions about games and don't really get why people behave like that.

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Honest curious question: what made you change your mind?

I feel like most self-proclaimed anarchists have very little interest in the political philosophy aspect of it. Which is a shame, because it's really far better than its reputation.

It honestly feels almost every political community either turns into a charity or legit local non-profit org that does something and maybe even something useful once the narcissists are ousted or a book club/discord server.

I'd consider myself a Star Wars fan, and one of the things that gets me about the current state of fandom is how opposed to nuance it is. Having measured opinions about things is right out; you need to decide if you're going to LOVE or HATE a thing, and if you don't then you're not welcome.

I’m a Star Wars fan and enjoy it all. The most disappointing watch for me was Book of Boba Fett because it wasn’t how I thought his character would do things. However, it still entertained me.

Yeah, I wish he’d go back to being the greenhouse on mars guy

This is mine too.

I disconnected from R&M after the toxic fans went psycho over Schezwan sauce. There was some news blip that happened not long before that intelligent people tend to have a dark sense of humor, and it's like it made the worst of the worst decide that they must be super geniuses if they teabag someone in CS:GO after they kill them.

I'm not gonna hate on any season. They've all been half filler and half Harmon confessing his sins, and most of them have been roughly entertaining for the most part. Even the meta shit is roughly entertaining.

I like anime, I don't watch it much these days in lieu of manga and Manwha but I am planning to watch a few new titles that I would enjoy, like blue lock

Nothing ruins anime more than talking to people who enjoy the worst aspects of it, but even then I feel lonely with having no one to discuss with

Very thankful for the untold number of hours of Funhaus I watched. Very thankful I never got too into the Fandom.

Tales from the Stinky Dragon is also awesome and a new Roosterteeth endeavor!

Do you have a tl;Dr?

I hadn't thought about fandom's based around people rather than properties (ex. Movie/game series). I imagine a lot of people feel that way about late Rooster Teeth.

Don't worry. He remembers it, so you don't have to.

Oh don't worry I'm trans / bi in the _{\*wrong\* \*way\*} too. They just wanna be mad and will find a reason.

Have you tried not being white, vanilla face?

I haven't seen that here yet but I don't dicuss those things much so maybe that's why.

I was peripheral to it as a Ron and Fez fan. Good lord that place was awful. Rest in piss.