White chocolate is better than dark chocolate and i'm tired of pretending it's not

Are saltine crackers your favorite potato chips?

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I'd honestly go a different direction with the burn like white chocolate is to chocolate what sweet potato chips are to potato chips.

If we were to figure out where saltine crackers relate to potato chips in reference to chocolate or general sweets I'd say if potato chips are milk chocolate Hershey's then saltine crackers are toffee.
- Sweet potato chips are good though..
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Yeah I know white chocolate isn't technically chocolate but it scratches the same itch for me.

White chocolate shouldn't even be called chocolate.

I so agree. Its nice with strawberries. sorta like the way powdered sugar is.
yeah it is like people calling twizzlers Red , when there is 0 liquorice in it.

Going off of the comments already, I would say that this is a truly unpopular opinion. Well done, OP!

I can't tell the pretentious assholes apart from the people jokily pretending to be pretentious assholes. Great stuff.

White chocolate literally just tastes like sugar and fat. And "sour"??? What dark chocolate are you eating? This one actually pissed me off fr. Truly unpopular opinion.

My guess is they’re American and damaged by Hershey's puke
- As an American pushing 40, I will tell you, in my whole life, I have rarely ever seen someone just eating a Hershey bar. And I mean very rarely, like twice in my life. They are usually used in some other way like S'mores.
  
  When someone wants just chocolate they grab something better like Ghirardelli or something.
Maybe they meant bitter.
Imagine not liking sugar and fat.
- Not on its own!
I did a chocolate tour once. They explained that beans from certain places do have a more sour taste and some bars have it. Its been a while so I don't even remember which beans it was but it is a real thing.

Maybe because it's not chocolate and we should stop calling it this.

Depends! If you consider chocolate to be food derived from the cocoa bean, then white chocolate is chocolate because it's made of cocoa butter without the solids!

The powdery stuff you call cocoa is what's left over once you get rid of the cocoa butter. So if you feel that cocoa solids are required for something to be classified as chocolate... Then no, it's not chocolate.
- I guess it's the same as asking if vegetable oil is a vegetable.
- Now let´s also consider the fact that cocoa butter is free of chocolate flavor because all the chocolate flavor remains in the cocoa powder after the separation.
- Chocolate is cocoa and cocoa butter by definition
It scratches the same itch for me ¯\(ツ)/¯

As a Belgian I consider myself a bit of an ambassador on chocolate and after discussing this with all my fellow countrymen we came to the unanimous conclusion that you are wrong. Please apologize and remove this post.

I asked the Netherlanders what they thought of your comment, and I couldn't understand a fucking word they said, but they seemed angry.
- Are you sure they weren't American? We're always getting angry at things we don't understand.
As a Swiss I feel like I can easily out-ambassador you and I will disagree. White chocolate is awesome and OP should keep loving it.

TIL, some people think solidifed mix of powdered milk & sugar is chocolate.

Thank you for satisfying yourself with that and leaving chocolate for the rest of us.

Upvote because I whole heartedly disagree with you.

Yes. This is what unpopular opinion should be about.

It really isn't. The key flavor factor of Chocolate is it's bitterness.

White Chocolate totally sacrifices this flavor profile. If you prefer white chocolate you like sugar, not chocolate.

This. I despise how sweet white chocolate tastes. I like that rich bitterness to dark chocolate.

But I was the weird kid who grew up liking dark chocolate over milk chocolate.
- Same, I used to eat it in very small amounts.
"You want some chocolate with that sugar?"
Or like both but prefer sugar (and fat carefully tempered to a delecate snap). But seriously if you don't like sugar I don't understand why you would be messing with chocolate anyway.

Incidentally try caramelising white chocolate. fucking great. Which I think supports the white choc ~= sugar hypothesis.
- Caramelized white chocolate sounds delightful. Like dulce de leche.

You have the palate of a child

True. In fact all chocolate is for children. Real adults appreciate the complex flavors and harsh bitterness of dirt which reminds them of their bitter and complex adult selves.
- Enjoy your dino chicken nuggets
He probably puts ketchup on hotdogs.

You enjoy sweetened cocoa butter rather than the fermented product of the cocoa bean, one is chocolate and the other is not. You enjoy the one that is not chocolate, but makes a great moisturizer if you don't add sugar.

Comparing white chocolate to dark chocolate makes as much sense as comparing macarons to macaroni :P

Other than that, enjoy white chocolate moderately, preferably with friends, and enjoy your weekend, kind human being :)

Im glad you like your sugary milky butter. Have the day you deserve.

Are you a serial killer or just an absolute freak in other ways? White chocolate tastes like someone mixed jizz and chalk dust into some bland milk chocolate.

So the only problem I have with white chocolate is that is seems soooo much sweeter. Like a sickly sweet. Its not bad just not my go to sweet

Wait, is dark chocolate actually sour to you? Dark chocolate is definitely not sour for me. Bitter maybe, but absolutely not sour.

if they are American then dark chocolate can very well taste sour, look into what Hershey did, literally use soured milk to make chocolate...
- In the US, we’ve gotten some really good chocolate over the last couple of decades and I’ve mostly avoided Hersheys over that time. We especially have some excellent dark chocolates. Your “bad chocolate” stereotype was all too true and may still be on average, but things are changing.
  
  I’ve never tasted good white chocolate though
I am not a native english speaker and i always forget about the word "bitter", i will correct the post, thanks.

no officer, he was already dead when I found him

His taste buds certainly were.

So you like pure fat mixed with sugar. That's ok with me.

Damn, I think this may be the first truly angry upvote I've ever given. How someone can be so wrong, but post about it in the one place where the sheer insanity of saying it requires me to applaud their saying it, it don't understand.

Legit though, I get it. Dark chocolate is an odd pleasure. Sour isn't the right word, it's bitterness, though. And it's an earthy bitterness rather than something that is only bitter. But I can see how the dominance of the bitterness is going to overwhelm the palate until and unless you've taken the time to break away from sweet pleasures as the only pleasures. And that takes both time and effort, we aren't geared to detect bitterness as good by default.

I love me some white chocolate though! The cheap stuff is cloying and waxy, but when it's done well, you get this creamy texture along with the buttery flavor carried on sweetness.

It's not even real chocolate. Dark chocolate for the win. At least 70% or bust.

I tried 99%, it is not for everyday but really interesting, complex flavor.
- This is the real unpopular opinion. 99% is like eating coffee grounds. I assume it only exists so people can feign sophistication.
- Yeah, I've had 99%, think it would have been great for cooking but it just formed a bitter mush in my mouth when I ate it. No snap at all.
I have to stop about 70%. Every 80%+ tastes like plastic to me, it's a weird sensation for me. Have always loved 70% dark chocolate though, as well as milk.

White? It's mostly a toleration rather than an enjoyment. I like it in a few specific things like a white mocha or a few varieties of cookies. But never by itself.
- I tried 99%, it is not for everyday but really interesting, complex flavor.

Wait, dark chocolate is sour? Very high concentration (80%+) dark chocolate is close to powdery and has some fruity notes, but it's usually slightly bitter rather than sour to me. It's not my favourite but I can't think of it as being sour.

Right? The bitterness is the point. It makes my life so much sweeter in comparison.
lots of people mix up the words bitter and sour
There are some chocolates that are definitely sour, sometimes that's a desired flavor when making chocolate. For example, the last batch of single origin Peru chocolate was noticable more sour than the Bolivian and Ecuadorian ones I made. I'd actually intentionally selected my beans knowing this.

I also think white is better than dark chocolate, but what kind of dark chocolate you're eating that's sour? Dark chocolate is supposed to be bitter.

American chocolates (like Hershey's) tend to taste more sour because they have more sugar and less cacao. The milk also tends to have a more butyric acid taste for some reason. Perhaps the difference is how the milk is treated, but those are trade secrets.
- I was surprised the first time I bought a Hershey's bar and it tasted a bit like vomit.
- But OP mentions dark chocolate, not milk chocolate

Why would you pretend anyway? Such a nonsensical thing to do, I can't even comprehend why anybody would do such a thing in this instance.

They probably weren't actually pretending. Most likely just using the meme phrase for the title.

White chocolate is just sugary butter, you are a simpleton. Good day sir or madam.

Proper dark chocolate isn't even good. Milk chocolate however is far better than white chocolate. White is just too... cloying?

Proper dark chocolate doesn't have to be 100% cocoa solids. I agree that is too bitter, and I like a very dark chocolate.
- There is a literal sweet spot for me, totally dependent on my taste and mood of the day where dark chocolate is just dark enough that fruity noted of the chocolate shine through the bitterness. Which is not to say that I don't also love milk chocolate, sour milk chocolate aka Hershey's, and white chocolate.
I love 70% dark chocolate, often with mint, caramel or sea salt. Those are the best, better than milk and white.
Some of that stuff is only good to use in baking or otherwise as an ingredient.

There are some dark chocolates that are meant for dégustation as well but usually a bit lower on the cacao % and with complex flavour profiles kind of like wine.

I guess you're gonna be tired aaaaand wrong.

I'm sure we'll see eye to eye on other matters, but not this.

Good day to you!

White chocolate is the only chocolate I'll eat. Milk chocolate, dark chocolate, any other kind of chocolate; I can't comprehend why people like it so much. I'm more of a strawberry/vanilla guy. At least they don't taste like stale coffee mixed with sugar to cover the taste.
- This means you don't like chocolate. As another comment pointed out, it's sugar you like not chocolate.
  
  That's fine, but chocolate is life so....
  
  :P
- Because they like bitter flavors and not JUST sugar.
  
  White chocolate has had all of it's bitter compounds removed. It is basically fat free milk.

White chocolate is just a shell of the chocolate it wants to be

White chocolate is what is left over after the good part is removed.

Completely disagree, though I don't like dark chocolate all that much either. Upvoted.

Dark chocolate is the only kind I really like anymore.
Milk chocolate is where it's at for me.

If you prefer white chocolate to other kinds you just don't like chocolate that much, which is fine, but don't lie to us about it

Those be fightin words.

Shut it. Debating taste is pointless.

What! I mean, yes, it is pretty unproductive. But occasionally, incredibly rarely, debating taste leads to a phenomenal new innovation, some new understanding. Just not among non-chefs I guess

I follow your flavor claim, but lose me on the texture bit. They feel veeery similar tbh.

But i cannot STAND white chocolate. Its way too sweet for me, and it overall tastes too much like milk. So much so i usually get 70% cacao content, which would probably be too bitter for your tastes.

I only eat Lindt 70% chocolate. It's absolutely perfect and I cant stand anything higher or lower in cacao percentage. And the Lindt brand is extremely smooth. So good. And it's relatively healthy with more fat and protein than carbs, so it satisfies me after about two squares.
I discovered a 65% cacao milk chocolate. You get the strong chocolate flavor but also the milk to balance the bitterness.

I usually prefer dark chocolate but this one is amazing.

I like and eat both. I don't even care if people don't consider white chocolate "not true chocolate", it's still great. Milk chocolate, too.

Still, if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the darkest, least sweet chocolate.

Yeah, I'm never going to not eat sweets if they're offered. But if if I'm choosing my own treat, it's going to be the bar of 70%+ dark.

Eww

Might as well just say you like sugar. I've never had white chocolate that isn't caked full of sugar, but dark chocolate is 👌

That's racist.

I like this comment regardeless of your intentions being sincere or not.

It's like people have different tastes. If you like it, that's all that matters.

I didn't think this was going to be an unpopular opinion, but this apparently strikes a nerve with chocolate lovers.

Anyway, I don't agree with the claim but taste is always a personal preference and it's pointless stating one is better than the other.

I like dark chocolate because (excuse my English) had a sour-sweet tastes. especially the ones who had 50% or more in cacao

That's more of a bitter flavor. Dark chocolate usually has 70+% cacao.

You shut your dirty blasphemous mouth. Heathen.

I'm sympathetic. Not sure I agree, but I'm sympathetic.

I completely agree. White chocolate isn't as sweet and I believe is very underrated.

It's literally fat and sugar; what do you mean with "isn't as sweet" ?!
What do you mean? It's sickly sweet.
Ahhh, no.its missing the part that makes chocolate bitter. It's just sugar and fat

Yep, its unpupular alright. Agree with you myself though it really shouldnt be called chocolate, more like a vainilla bar.

Don't slander vanilla like that

Let me try to change your mind...

Take 2 pounds of cream cheese, float the foil packs in warm water for 10-15 min. Drop the cheese into a bowl with 1.5 cups of sugar and hit it with a mixer until it's nice and smooth.

Add 3/4 cup Dutch processed cocoa powder. Dutch processing reduces the acidity and makes it darker and smoother.

5 eggs, 2 tablespoons of vanilla, then the secret ingredients, 1/4 cup of Grand Marnier and 2 teaspoons of orange extract.

Mix all that up until it's smooth again, then add an entire 10 oz. bag of miniature chocolate chips. Important you use mini chips because full size chips won't melt all the way and leave a weird texture.

Now, prep the pan, take a 9" springform pan and spray it with non-stick spray. Pop in 1/4 cup MORE Dutch processed cocoa powder and swirl it all around so it coats all the surfaces. This is going to bake into a dark chocolate crust.

Pour in the batter and bake at 200°F for EIGHT HOURS. I put it in the oven, go to bed and set an alarm. In the morning, your whole house will smell like chocolate and oranges.

Now, the worst part, it has to chill. You can't just eat it, it's pudding right now. So step 1, let it sit on a wire rack until it's room temp. 2 to 4 hours.

Put a plate on top, flip it over, and remove the springform pan. Put the cake in the refrigerator and chill another 2 to 4 hours.

When the cake is chilled, put another plate on top, flip it right side up, decorate, slice, and serve. I like topping it with some little candied oranges.

Don't do this if you dislike the orange/chocolate combination. I really dislike that, I don't know why. I don't like dark chocolate, prefer milk chocolate, but I like oranges. Putting them together will make me throw it away.

But it looks like a good recipe for those who do like the combo!
- The brilliant bit is once you have the base mix, you can flavor it however you want by swapping out the Grand Marnier and Extract with whatever you want. I made a hazelnut version with Frangelico and hazelnut extract, but you could do banana, cocoanut, raspberry...

It's unpopular because most people think white chocolate has 0% cocoa beans

They're not wrong for the most part. Good white chocolate has cocoa butter, but a lot of the cheaper stuff substitutes this with various oils. No cocoa in sight.

Completely wrong

Thought so until the age of 10. So I'm making an educated bet, that you mightnjust grow out of it. otherwise eternal damnation awaits

Dark chocolate is awful and I'm in my 40s so I'm not "growing out of it".
- There is always hope, my dear friend.

People ITT: gatekeep chocolate.

Holy cow, OP - this is an actual unpopular opinion! Nicely done!

As a supertaster, bitter things are difficult to enjoy because even slight bitterness tends to overpower everything else. So I agree with OP and will take my downvotes accordingly.

The cacao percentage in dark chocolate makes all the difference when it comes to sourness: I prefer a semisweet which I wouldn't describe as bitter.

70% is the sweet spot

I don't hate white chocolate but I prefer the regular kind.

Is there something unpopular about liking white chocolate?

So technically speaking the % dark is the amount of cocoa (solids+butter) / total. There really isn't a standard way that dark chocolate is defined otherwise.

Therefore you can have a 75% dark chocolate that is well balanced (70% cocoa, 5% added cocoa butter, 25% sugar) but have it be less dark than a white chocolate that is 80% cocoa butter and 20% other stuff since it's technically 80% dark.

Not really sure where I'm going with this other than to say generalities in chocolate, like saying all dark chocolate is sour, suck. In any case, white chocolate is usually crap

White Chocolate we are talking about here right? the ivory looking cocoa butter bar with 0 browness.
- They're saying that the % in dark chocolate is percentage of cocoa in general, which would include both cocoa butter (the only "chocolate" part of white chocolate) and cocoa solids (the fermented product of the cocoa bean, what I would consider to be chocolate). I'm not sure how accurate this is because I always thought it was a measure of percentage of cocoa solids, not just "cocoa" in general which would include the butter. I could be mistaken.

Milk Chocolate > White Chocolate > Dark Chocolate.

Milk chocolate is the best of chocolates when there are no extra additives on it's own.

Dark Chocolate as much as I hate it, IS better than white chocolate on it's own.

White chocolate without any sort of flavor enhancers is just so damn bland. However, it's just like eating salt on it's own. Gross by itself, but delicious with something else to go with it. White chocolate is a catalyst. Milk Chocolate is a treat. Dark Chocolate goes in the trash. I'll begrudgingly eat it if I have no other better chocolate around lol.

The only people I've ever seen like dark chocolate are people who hate themselves, take scalding hot showers with the heat of a thousand suns, and enjoy starting their day with black coffee. AKA, people who had no self esteem as a teenager until they forced adult habits on themselves before they were ready rather than admitting they like 'childish' stuff. Cultural masculinity is so weird.

Are you OK, bud?
Dark chocolate is not unsweetened though. Nobody is enjoying straight baking chocolate with no sugar in it. Dark chocolate is lightly sweetened cold brew coffee, not black coffee.

Have liked dark chocolate (and licorice) since I was a wee lass, even back when I did like very sweet things. Still can't enjoy black coffee.

White chocolate and milk chocolate are both ok but semi-sweet and dark chocolate are heavenly.
I absolutely do love all the things you named. I feel like in both chocolate and coffee that the milk rounds out flavors to be nice and smooth, but you lose some of detail. Sometimes they both go too far and end up in a sour or bitter mess, but I really enjoy the tastes on the edge of being too far.

Hot showers are just luxury. Put some lotion on after and your skin will be fine.
I always thought it was cold showers that went along with black coffee. I personally enjoy the taste of coffee but it took a while to get my setup dialed in to not make the coffee taste bad black. I think a lot of people just drink bad coffee. I get what you're saying, but I'm genderqueer and I still enjoy the taste of coffee.

You're wrong

But you are missing out on all the good stuff in dark chocolate like theobromine, there's much less of that in white chocolate.

While I disagree, I must say white choclate chip cookies aremy favourite (for some reason)

It is not chocolate because it doesn't contain any coco butter.

It has cocoa butter but no cocoa solids

I like both. Not the super dark bitter stuff, but stuff on the level of Hershey dark is fine. Not saying I'm a Hershey fanboy, but that's a reference common enough to understand.

Both are better in small doses IMO. White is too sweet, and dark isn't sweet enough to eat a whole lot at a time.

Milk chocolate hits a perfect spot.

My unpopular opinion might be that dark chocolate is gross

I've always loved white chocolate. Gives me a tingle in my throat when I eat it.

You should carry an EpiPen for that

Does anyone have any white chocolate candies they recommend?

Wow I didnt know that this is such an unpopular opinion. There's nothing wrong with liking white chocolate.

Liking white chocolate doesnt mean not liking chocolate. When i want sth sweet, i prefer white chocolate, but I'm also a fan of dark chocolate (60%-80%).

Tell me you only buy low-quality confections without telling me you only buy low-quality confections.

Buy yourself one of these: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81+PzvS1KpS._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg

Then here's the trick: only eat a small piece at a time, like 1 square inch. Savor it. Don't immediately follow it with anything. Let the flavor completely leave your mouth on its own before you have anything else.

I actually agree with you. Chocolate is great, but you never know heaven till you had white chocolate.

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I agree with this messages so I had to downvote it : 😢

Your comment is so bad. I'm downvoteing you for being so very wrong.

Try some good chocolate.
- I tried many brands of chocolate. I lived in SF for a while so I had access to the ghirardelli factory and their chocolates. I even did a chocolate tasting tour ones with brands I've never even heard of before. And despite all of that my favorite chocolate is still lindor by lindt. And even then I like their white chocolate the most.

White chocolate is not very good, but dark chocolate is fucking disgusting. I do have to think that people are just pretending to like it. I mean, alcohol is disgusting too but at least there's a point to drinking it.

I think a lot of the problem is that people think dark chocolate should be eaten the way milk or other heavily sweetened chocolate can be. If you take a big old hunk of dark and chew on it, you're not going to have a good time. And you can't just go with Hershey's special dark or Baker's chocolate. You gotta go with someone that makes dark chocolate as its own thing.

But then, you take smaller bits and let them melt across your tongue, more like you do something akin to hard candies. This allows the bitterness to be mitigated by the floral and earthy flavors. The sweetness that is there balances out the bitterness more. That's where dark chocolate becomes something delightful.

Works similar in "sipping" chocolate compared to the more standard hot chocolate. The little sips make the depth of flavor roll over your tongue I'm sensual waves rather than just hitting you with the bolt of sweetness and cocoa surface flavor.

Which is akin to the difference between boutique coffees and good but mass roasted stuff like Folgers. You drink Folgers when you want decent flavor and a hit of caffeine in a hot liquid. You use the others when you have time to sit down and really savor your cup.

Bringing it back to alcohol, you can have well brands that are booze with flat flavors, or "fancier" stuff that has layers of taste (that you may or may not like).

You'd also be surprised to find that the chemistry in chocolate give it a point beyond flavor as well. It won't get you high in any quantities you'd want to intake, but there's a ton of feel-good stuff in there.

Legit, not trying to change your mind here, just trying to give a view at those of us that genuinely enjoy dark chocolate. It isn't pretend, it's just a different goal.

White Toblerone is the best chocolate in the world. Next best is Fazer's Salty liquorice milk chocolate.

Preach king

I agree. White chocolate is best chocolate.

"BuT iTs NoT cHcOlAtE!"

It's made from cocoa butter. It's got cocoa in the name and therefore chocolate. 😤

It definitely isn't chocolate. You should try cocoa fruit sometime, saying cocoa is chocolate is like saying flour is bread.

That's interesting. Can you recommend any brands for me to try? Hopefully I can find them in Malaysia. Maybe I'll change my mind on white chocolate.