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‘If Ukraine fails, war will come to the streets of European cities,’ former foreign minister says

www.cnbc.com ‘If Ukraine fails, war will come to the streets of European cities,’ former foreign minister says

Ukraine "cannot sit on its hands" while Russia continues to escalate, Kuleba told CNBC.

Summary

Former Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba warned that if Ukraine falls to Russia, the conflict could spread to European cities, as Putin might target the EU next.

Kuleba emphasized Ukraine's NATO membership as critical to preventing future wars, dismissing security guarantees as insufficient.

He criticized potential peace settlements at Ukraine’s territorial expense, stressing the need for Moscow to negotiate in good faith.

Amid escalating attacks on Ukraine, Kuleba defended counter-escalation using U.S.-supplied weapons, while Trump criticized Biden’s support for strikes inside Russia.

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Seriously - this will be the time when the rest of the world will find out whether they can win against Russia without ( or against ) US support, since we elected Putin's cock holster a few weeks ago.
- Against the US? No. Unequivocally not happening, no. Against just Russia? Pick three EU nations at random and their combined might would exceed Russia’s with only moderate effort. The EU has been fairly lackadaisical about putting in the effort, which is the main obstacle.
  
  Yeah this war has revealed just how strong Russia is not. They thought they would take Kiev in 3 days and have still not done so after 3 years. Ukraine + Syrian Rebels = too much for them, let alone 3 European nations.
  
  Against the US? No. Unequivocally not happening, no.
  Solo EU vs. solo US would lead to a stalemate, both sides quickly realising that the other party is on the other side of the Atlantic and that noone has a counter against stealth subs, which the US would be able to develop before the EU has time to build a non-negligible amount of aircraft carriers. Nukes won't be an issue both sides have enough second-strike capabilities to turn the other side to glass, unless the US gets a foothold in France at which point the French would first strike. So don't do that, especially when the stalemate is so comfortably an ocean wide.
  Pick three EU nations at random and their combined might would exceed Russia’s with only moderate effort.
  Luxembourg, Malta, Cyprus.
  ...I mean generally speaking you're right but technically no.
  
  The EU as a whole has donated more to Ukraine than the US.
  The main problem is that while the EU donations where to keep Ukraine economy afloat, a lot of the US ones were military aid, so Ukraine cannot do without either.
  https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine
  
  But according to Lemmy and Reddit, the US needs to do more, send more money, because you know, we're the World Police when other countries need us...
- This is the breadbasket and ICBM manufacturing part of the USSR. Its importance to the lives of everyone, yes EVERYONE on earth that this place be freed from Russian control cannot be overstated.
  We just let the orange guy win again please EU act like rational adults
- I really with the left would stop acting like Trump is going to just give Putin anything he wants. Trump has no intention in allowing Russia to just take over whoever they want. His goal is to play a better role in trying to stop the war, unlike Biden who just keeps giving billions and billions of dollars, no questions asked...
  
  "I really wish the left would stop acting like Trump is going to try to remain president if he loses the election. Trump has no intention of trying to overturn a free and fair election."
  Every Republican leading up to 2020.
  
  Yeah, Trump was pretty clear in the debate that it was in the US's best interest for Ukraine to win, so why would he let Putin do what he wants? To have the war end quickly, come what may?
  Oh, wait...

Theres already war on fucking european cities streets because ukraine is europe. This is the exact giveaway that they dont support ukraine at all and just want to protect their asses. While i do think ukraine is an important buffer state i also think that the 40 million people living there(and the other 90 or something million people who live in european states bordering russia) have their own lives and rights and should be respected.

Yeah but we want cheaper groceries now, so we're all just going to elect fascists instead.
- Sorry Aotus already said bringing down prices is going to be hard.
  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-now-bringing-grocery-prices-promised-hard/story?id=116763207
  
  surprisedpikachuface.jpg

Arms Manufacturers:

Germans: "idk bro, maybe the Russians are nice now? Let's let them in"
- High time to give Nord Stream 3 a chance

I always ~~hate~~ love to see the selective fearmongering the "anti-war" faction engages in. Russia keeping going after overtaking Ukraine and starting wars with other european nations? Fearmongering! Russia glassing the world with nukes if they can't get Ukraine? Credible threat!
- They are enemy psy op actors, whether they know it or not

Is Ukraine not in Europe?
- Europe == European Union
  
  So Switzerland is not in Europe, got it.
  https://european-union.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/embed_large/public/2024-05/european-map_en.jpg

Putin is already targeting Europe. Not that we're doing anything much about it.

The global south colonies are starting to break free. Quick invest a trillion in weapons!
EU not giving Ukraine their modern weapons or letting them into NATO and then wondering how it lost to Russia.

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The same Russia struggling to take over Ukraine alone is somehow going to take over Europe? Please. While we need to beat back Russia, there is no use in exaggerated fearmongering. It does more harm than good.

I think this is a scare tactic to get the US to give more money. There's no way Putin does anything after Ukraine. He can't, first of all... because he'll have little to no resources, and also, the international community won't allow him too.

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