Developer of Reddit is Fun just released an app for Tildes.

Just FYI, Tildes is run by one (1) dude with a full time job and a family. From what I read, the guy refers to himself as the God of Tildes or something to that effect which I think tells you everything you need to know about how it's managed.

Don't expect it to ever reach the popularity or capacity of Lemmy or Reddit.

I read that this was stated entirely as a joke, and I read that 2 months ago in the middle of people looking for pathetic excuses to not stop using reddit.

I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.
- I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.
  
  You must not be familiar with people then.
- See this comment https://lemmy.world/comment/1840042
Isn't Tildes the site responsible for the creation of Beehaw? As in a bunch of users had a disagreement with the admin and decided they would all leave Tildes and start their own place (with blackjack and hookers), eventually settling on Lemmy for the platform?
Their goal is not to be a Reddit alternative or to replace the fediverse. Maybe in the long run it will have a larger user base, but for now they want to remain on the smaller size. Which is fine, there is room for multiple websites. It’s a good thing everyone isn’t located in one source. Things can be across lemmy, mastodon, Kbin, tildes, squabbles, etc.
- Being part of the fediverse is important to ever be able to challenge mega corporate social sites like Reddit, Twitter
Is it even part of the Fediverse?
- It's not a federated platform.
- The only federated Reddit alternatives are Lemmy and Kbin as far as I know. Would be cool if more implemented ActivityPub

Wtf is tildes?

Another reddit alternative https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/145om2g/a_little_about_tildes/

Looks ok but I don't think its federated
- I think it was a good alternative, but it not being federated nor able to create communities makes it a bit lame. I really liked it, but it's hard to find interesting use for it when it doesn't let you have the spaces or topics that you want to cover other than the already defined ones.
- Really hard to care about a niche social network like this if it isn’t federated, honestly. Far as I’m concerned it could go the exact same way as Hacker News or Reddit.
Replacement to Lemmy if Lemmy ever paywall the API
- That's the equivalence of saying if W3C added a pay wall to http. It can't be done.
Another great alternative to Reddit. It's also a non-profit.
One of the many lemmy-like federated sites; I wonder if it lets you sign in with accounts hosted on the lemmy instances since those sites are federated with tildes. Apple mail lets you sign in with both outlook and gmail, and as I understand it, certain apps for Mastodon let you view Lemmy posts (I use Ice Cubes which does) since most of its instances are fedded with us but with a lot less functionality since this site doesn’t let you repost like mastodon does and mastodon only lets you upvote things

Edit: Apparently it’s not federated. Guess there’s nothing stopping it from just being another Hivemind-That-Must-Not-Be-Named in training.

Cool! Don't care! Fuck Tildes. And I'm a longtime RIF user and Tildes alpha user. (And it's still in alpha, years later...) It's a weird ass place over there. Not too keen on their "private club" theme centered around the "God of Tildes" either.

While I prefer Lemmy more, I'm enjoying my time there.

Can you cite any examples of weird behavior centered around its admin? I don't read Tildes enough to have noticed it, I guess.
I’m also a Tildes alpha user, and while I don’t go there very often, I’m pretty surprised to see all this hate. Never had any issues with the site operator myself, nor have I heard about any issues. Can you elaborate?

I went and looked at tildes as a result of this, and it seems aggressively dead. Like, the fediverse is pretty dead and tildes makes it look positively thriving in comparison. Yeesh.

It's been invite-only for a long while, so they can manage the userbase easier. I imagine that, plus the lack of support for visual content makes it challenging for engagement.
- I used to be on there. It's boring as fuck. Anything remotely fun is beneath them.
- lack of support for visual content
  
  That sounds amazing
What are you talking about, Lemmy is great and Matrix is absolutely thriving for things I care about.

Sure, Lemmy doesn't have 300M users or whatever Reddit has, but that doesn't mean it's dead, it just means it's small. Valuable discussion happens here, and it seems to be improving.
- No shit you think it's fine, you're a techy linux weirdo. Good luck discussing like, musicals or tabletop roleplaying games or homemade moonshine or anything in that general vicinity of "niche" on here.
  
  It's small enough to literally have zero posts of a variety of topics, and that number isn't improving. Get outside of your own circle every once in a while.

Tildes is elitist. They don't want the unwashed masses on their manicured lawn.

I think that's an strong statement and overreaction on your part, but to that point mass adoption isn't always a good thing.

I find that the content on Tildes are generally more respectful, thoughtful and higher quality. Much better signal to noise ratio. Lemmy does have quality stuff but there is also a lot more low quality / low effort content to wade through. Just look at the state of Showerthoughts / AskLemmy if you are looking for examples.
- You just described elitism.
- And the best part about Lemmy/Reddit is that I can look at that low effort content if I want (it's a fun time waster) and ignore it if I don't (I don't sub to any large communities).
  
  With Tildes, there's fewer people so I have less to choose from.
Whenever I go over there it always feels like they just like to listen to themselves talk. :(
- That's exactly how I feel about Twitter and Facebook, so I avoid all of that. Reddit was great because there wasn't really any benefit to getting "popular" on the platform, and Lemmy is scratching that itch for me as well.
  
  I haven't actually looked at Tildes seriously because when I first heard about it years ago, it just didn't have much content and was invite only, so I bailed.
  
  Lemmy is good enough for me, so I'm here. I could probably go through the effort of getting an account at Tildes and Lobsters, but that's effort I should be spending not being on SM, so I just don't bother. I go to SM to escape, and any barriers just remind me I should be doing something more productive.

Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.

From what I can recall, you aren't missing much. The power hungry admins are intense there.
- It looks like they have their own "vibe" and rigorously enforce it in their own community. That's fine, it's their service after all. Feels a bit strange to turn away potential new users when people are looking for viable alternatives
- They aren't bashful anywhere
Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.

People parrot this as if getting a Tildes invite is like getting invited to join the Freemasons or something like that—it's not that hard to get an invite.

And for those who are just going to lurk, you don't even need to register to view everything.
- But if you're trying to be a Reddit competitor getting an invite is sabotaging your mission. I've been on Reddit for 10+ years and I'm actively looking for a replacement, but I'm not going to search for someone that can send me an invite to a new social media site
Yeah, but just asking for one is usually enough. It isn't difficult to get, just enough to totally prevent bots or massive multiple accounts.
Afaik you just email him and he will give you one it is not like they are overwhelmed with people.
- Received an invite after a week.
  
  It isn't bad of a turnaround time, really.
I have 5 invites I can give out, PM me if you're interested!
- I would love one if they're still available
- I too, would appreciate an invite if you have one more available! Thank you!
- I'd love an invite if you're down to give em!
- I would be happy to receive an invite :)
If you haven't received an invite to join Tildes yet, just email invites@tildes.net and ask. I received one 2 weeks after requesting.

I've honestly never heard of Tildes til this post. As far as I can tell since there's no API he's just scraping html which is not ideal, but still it's worth checking out. I love that developers are still determined to make 3rd party apps.

I wanted to check the code to see if hes actually mad enough to do it aaaand it's closed source
- If you know some Java, you may try to look into it with Jadx. It's a Java decompiler with Android support, and can also export code an Android Studio project if you don't like the built-in code viewer. It's on GitHub.
That seems like a pretty bad platform to develop an app for then lol at least APIs try to maintain backwards-compatibility (and give you only the data you need in an easier format), I can't imagine that being sustainable long-term.

I wonder why he went over that over Lemmy.

Talklittle themself has said that it's actually because they were already working on a tildes app before the reddit API changed. Tildes was different enough from reddit that they felt comfortable investing the time. Then 3rd party apps got booted and everyone started moving over, and at that point it was easier to keep working on the same tildes app than to start anything new.
- They are on the fediverse as well, so hopefully with time they may decide to make something for Lemmy as well
- Huh thanks for the explanation I just replied someone else about not having a clue why dev decided to go that route haha.
Probably because when people were suggesting Reddit alternatives a TON of people showed interest in Tildes. Then, as far as I know, it never took off because it was invite only?

We have all of the larger Android Reddit app developers making Lemmy apps already. I'm pretty happy with Lemmy.
- Yeah but I mean he should at least researched how good or active Tildes was?
  
  Or is it more active than Lemmy?
  
  I don't know how to create apps, but IMHO that seems to involve a lot of time and research, even if you have a full baked one for other service, so I wouldn't rush launching it into a "x" (no Elon shit) alternative?
  
  Well I bet he has his reasons.
  
  EDIT: Nevermind I got a repose with the context about his reasonings:
  
  https://lemm.ee/comment/1648650

Was really keen on tildes for a moment when we were going through the exodus stage with Reddit. I wasn't keen on the closed invite system.

I get they want to keep their own community and that's fine, but it's a shame they wanted to limit their growth in a time when people were looking for alternatives

I got my account by reading the FAQ’s and emailing directly.

It seems more of a step to weed out low effort posters which I’m not mad at tbh.
- And that's why it's dead. Because what constitutes "low effort" is a discussion to be had, but that place is just the owner's backyard where they kick out anything or anyone they don't like.
Probably limited to keep the infrastructure from getting overwhelmed. It is a one person show after all.

Does that website ban people for fucking cursing?

What the fuck man. Are you shitting me?
- No. Fucking. Way.

I'm a long time RIF user myself and as much as it would be great to have a Lemmy version we have so much to choose from it literally doesn't matter at all. You can tweak Connect to basically work similar to RIF if you want.

Please don't hate on the dev or Tildes itself, it serves no purpose at all and we are better than that as a community.

I used rif for free for so many years I better have nothing to say other than "you go girl" or else I'd feel like a real butthole.

Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.talklittle.android.tildes

Alternatively, opt-in to testing via web: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.talklittle.android.tildes

Is there an ios app too
- IOS app is in the making. RIF dev said it should be out in October.
  
  https://tildes.net/~tildes/18s2/three_cheers_for_tildes_android_version_is_open_for_alpha_testing_on_the_google_play_store
- I’ve been using the app Surfboard through TestFlight, and it’s really nice!
  
  Honestly just using it in a browser is pretty good too imo

Thank you! RIF was my go to for years and I'm a fan.

Isn't that the place with the admin with a god complex?

many such cases

Why of all the alternatives to reddit did the rif dev had to go with the shittyest one, i heard that the admins over there are even worse than they where back at reddit. I used riff almost since i started to interact with reddit and it was a beautifull app. Why didnt they go for a lemmy app? Why that horrible place of tildes...? I dont know but its probably safe to blame the beans.

Edit: Lots of Tildes lovers over here, arent yah? Look if you like the platform then more power to yah but my criticisms come from the moderation of that platform, its very sketchy and ban happy from what i heard, and imho a platform is limited by their moderators, and the jannies in tildes are the type that make you go "reddit moment" .

the shittyest one

Eh, that crown is probably better worn by Squabbles.
- I haven’t been to squabble since about a week after it opened. What happened to it?
- What's wrong with Squabbles? The UI looks neat and that's about all I know
- Nah, Raddle deserves it for the blatant transphobia
Tildes is not a Reddit alternative, it's got its own thing going. talklittle has been a member there for quite some time and so it makes sense. It's not for everyone, but I appreciate it.
- I'm curious, how would you characterize it's "thing"? I poked around a little and read a few comment threads. It looks like the social media version of npr lol. Very dry, matter of fact sorta vibe. I may have just picked some bad threads too
You're surely entitled to your opinion but I've been a Tildes user for a short while and have found the place to be lovely. Everyone seems very courteous and respectful, maybe to an extra degree. I've read some posts there that have said only a small number of people have been banned, around the order of a few every time membership opens up. You've and others on this thread have heard differently, though. This is just my one anecdotal experience.
- Well if it works for you then thats good news i guess. But there is an anecdote of some very reddit moment a dev had over ther. I cant find the source but it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and in r/redditalternatives about a meltdown some dev had over some banned user, check out my profile if you whana read it. You are free to write me off as just making stuff up since i dont have the source.
He was already working on a Tildes app before Reddit banned 3rd party apps. I expect a Lemmy one will eventually be in the works as well
- Heres hopeing
You hear? I've popped in and out from time to time and haven't noticed such. As it's text and discussion first, it's definitely different vibe though and probably is moderated in that direction too.
- I was looking for a story of someone that sayed they got banned by some developer of that platform just because they (the banned person) provided a dumb response, litterally "Adios", to the dev on some meaningless argument that the dev wasnt even involved in in the beggining but involved midly critisicicing the platform or something like that. And whent they posted the story on reddit, the dev (aledgedly but more likelly than not) started using varius accounts calling them a liar and spamming in that particular post, and in the devs main reddit or tildes account they provided evidence that the banned individual was saying racial slurs and things like that, but the banned proved that that wasnt its account, it was someomelses username, and also the fact that that particular dev whent as far as to throw such a fit going as far as to try to disprove the claims of the banned person over such a small and obscure post that i cant even find anymore definetly raises some red flags to me at least. Like i said i cant find it anymore, it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and reposted on several subs. And recently i heard that the main dev calls themselves " The god of tildes" so thats another red flag that puts me of that place besides the invite only bs.
I feel like TalkLittle had already committed himself to making a Tildes app before it became apparent that the Tildes admins were a bit heavy-handed. I'd have to imagine that if that was known about earlier on, he may have gone with another platform.

I seem to recall him mentioning considering developing a Squabbles app, but I don't remember if I'm confusing TalkLittle with another dev on that one.
- Now that you said so talklittle said in the goodbye post of rif that maybe work on a similar platform would beggin. I dont think its happening since nobody can just churn out apps left and right, but it shouldnt be super hard to mod rif into a fediverse app but i dont know since im more of a begginer in app design.
First-mover advantage.

The market is about to be flooded with Lemmy apps, many of which will be based on former reddit apps. And like it or not, most of these apps do ultimately exist to make money.

Good to hear he's still at it. Wouldn't have blamed him if he took a break from everything after the last few months.

Still not had an invite to check out Tildes so not seen it, but wish him well.

This is great! The road is finally rising with all the alternatives and as a Tildes user, i'm excited to install this, and maybe improve my engagement there.

I haven't stopped using reddit. But starting to use lemmy more on a daily basis as my page starts to show contents that I am interested in. Reddit will be also used along with it until it's demise. Not planning again to move to a centralised system for reddit like experience. Lemmy is the place I am going to settle. I will encourage people to be here. Those other places like squabbles, tildes, discuit etc can go down anytime. There will be atleast some people here in lemmy, atleast the hardcore ones who support alternatives like lemmy. Because it is not in the control of one person or centralised authority.

Reddit will be also used along with it until it’s demise

If people keep using it, it won't die. That's how websites that like work. Stop using reddit.

@narwal— why does Narwal still work to navigate Reddit while the other 3rd party apps don’t?

Narwhal is a Reddit browsing app that will adapt to the new pricing structure by making its users pay for the app. The subscription will cost between $4 and $7, its developer said.

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Reddit-pricing-API-charge-explained
- Thanks.
If you were trying to do a mention, it broke
- Lemmy get used to this new app…?

Lol invite only.

No thanks.

You don't really have much choice in the matter if you haven't been invited 😄
- Imagine watching reddit becoming so fucked up and going to a platform that's even more controlling and centralized 🙄

I'm confused about why RIF still works on Reddit. I thought Reddit killed 3rd party apps.

I think if you are not logged in, the app scrapes Reddit instead of using API calls.
Does it? I deleted the app on the day and figured it'd just die. Also curious.

What app are all you former RIF users using here on Lemmy? I'm trying Connect and it's pretty good but I'm wondering if there is something better out there.

I'm on Liftoff

Edit: Now I'm on Sync