I REFUSE to give into the exorciseists

Mood tho
- Heyyy, I was the first to post this one on lemmy

It is such bullshit that it works. It doesn’t fix everything but damnit it does enough that I have to keep doing it.
- This. It's not a cure at all, but it works for energy levels and peace of mind.

Did anyone else go from
holy shit I cannot believe how god damn much this actually improves everything
to
THIS IS BULLSHIT I RAN 20KM THIS WEEK AND I STILL HAVE PAIN AND DEPRESSION AND MY ADHD SYMPTOMS AND HEART RATE/BLOOD PRESSURE ISSUES I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS
over the course of like a few months?
- Yes. That was how I discovered the concept of overtraining.
  It’s especially easy to overtrain if the rest of your life is stressful.
  
  Im lucky that I'm incredibly lazy
- Thanks for the proof that sport is bad for you.
- You do need rest weeks for muscle, ligament, and tendon recovery. When I start feeling the health effect lessen (mentally), I take extra cold showers (not right after exercise as that hurts muscle recovery). Cold showers or ice baths, if you got the opportunity can reset dopamine levels. I think you just torture yourself for a few minutes and that makes you feel better about the day in comparison, but science says it does stuff on a cellular level that helps.
  I heard of an idea of 4-5 walls to get over while in the cold water. First you'll be cold and can't think. Just move around and try to get use to it. After a while you will get to the point of being able to talk with shouting and shivering. That's a wall. You will soon get cold again and that will start your next wall. Maybe 5 - 10 minutes for me. It helps refresh my outlook.

I take regular hour walks. They can help, but please still take your medication if you're on anything. And don't feel bad if it doesn't change your life. Sometimes you just walk to clear your head, and that's still okay.

Walking definitely improves my lower back pain and anxiety, but my right foot is an asshole and likes to swell up and hurt constantly no matter how nice of shoes I wear. Walking makes it worse but I do it anyway for the other benefits.
Fml
- I had a similar problem... Swimming was good for me, until the "recurring ear infection" nation attacked.
  
  It's always something. Human bodies a weirdly durable and fragile at the same time
- Do you maybe have the ability to try other things too, like cycling, swimming or YouTube-guided yoga?
  
  I've been meaning to try yoga, I guess I get intimidated because I'm not as flexible as I used to be. I know yoga is exactly what I need to fix that, but my stupid human brain thinks I'm going to hurt myself or something.
  Thank you for the advice! I'll have to find some beginner yoga videos this weekend and see if I can't find something that works for me
  
  Any recommendations for guided yoga? I've always wanted to try yoga for general health benefits but I worry that my form will be all wrong without an actual guide, and I have zero interest in the new-age/spiritual/religious shit

For the last 50,000 years or more we had to walk and move constantly to survive as a species so it makes sense that our bodies would have evolved to reward us for moving.

Yeah but then you hit the point that I'm at which is "I do this SO MUCH and my diet is SO GOOD why do I still look SO AVERAGE!?!
and you see concerning behaviors from yourself that are the beginnings of eating disorder territory and start fucking with supplements that simultaneously "dont work" but yet are banned by sporting bodies... and the stupid exercise becomes part of your mental health problem.
- If you eat well and work out, you are probably looking really nice! Don't compare yourself to "perfect" people on instagram, compare yourself with who you where before (or just for fun with the average person in wallmart). It also helps to find another goal than simple looking good, such as lifting a certain weight, or participate in sport events. Makes it all way more fun.
  
  Finding another goal is a good suggestion. It's what worked for me, at least. Instead of it being about how I appeared in a mirror (which was suuuuper variable and depended a lot on my mood), it became something measurable I could easily track progress with.
  
  Its not that I'm comparing myself to "Perfect" truth is Ive lost 35kg in 2 years, I'm super happy with my progress but I know why I dont look the way I'd like. Im a middle aged man, I dont recover like a 20yo, I have less HGH and test than a 20yo I dont get enough sleep, I have a demanding job and kids... Theres only so many hours in the day, I can only recover so fast, I can only diet and train so hard. For a while it really began to mess with my head.
  I'm just saying that people can take exercise and improving themselves to an unhealthy place too. "Treat yoself" isnt a lifestyle, its wallowing in easy dopamine, but a life of depriving yourself of everything that makes you happy and constantly hammering yourself physically is just not sustainable and it can take you places mentally that are just as unhealthy.
- Sounds like you have body dysmorphia. You should really look for some help in dealing with that.
  I don't know how to fix that sort of stuff but I feel like if you at least understand that your own mind is sandbagging you constantly, it might help a little. Just remember it is not telling you the truth about how you look whenever you think like that.
  
  Nah, I'm on top of it. I had a real struggle putting the brakes on my last cut. I dropped a kilo(2lbs) a week for 12 weeks and when it came to an end I was like "Number must keep dropping! Number cant go back up!" and it took a few weeks for me to calm down and get back to normal eating. Doesnt help that I have addict wiring in my brain.
  I had a lot of empathy for teenage girls for a few weeks, I was SO CLOSE to having visible abs but I was hitting burnout hard and needed to go back to maintenance for a bit.
- Eh no worries, I look shit and always will.
- There's nothing wrong with looking average. In fact, the average person looks average!

If a bit of walking cuts it for you, be happy. Some of us need to do actual cardio to keep the anxiety at bay

If you can get a job that combines with a workout like a 2birds situation.
Do about 8 to 10k steps a day
Feels better to sweat and be paid, if you can help it. Use it or lose it.
- I accidentally got a manual labor job and it's the only way I have or will ever exercise.
  Voluntary exercise is the most physically and mentally torturous activity. It is pure boredom plus pain and has never made me feel anything but worse, eg curled up on the couch staring at the wall for an hour in despair. Fuck exercise.
  Turns out that if you pay me and give me a reason to move around I have no problem. Exercise for it's own sake is just not doable for me, the pointlessness and misery are depression inducing.
  
  I bike to work, so I automatically do a workout 2 times a day. I definetly wouldn't be able to get myself to do sport 2 times a day otherwise.

Now air squats.

Crazy to think that there are people who need to go on such walks, because they do not already walk enough in their day to day lives. Do they never leave their homes? Or do they use their cars for everything?

I have an under the desk bike and it fulfils the same purpose so I can exercise while chained to my desk.