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Trump Advisers Seek to Shrink or Eliminate Bank Regulators | Advisers asked potential nominees whether Trump could abolish the FDIC

Remember that scene at the beginning of It's a Wonderful Life, where people are all desperately trying to get into the bank because if it fails before they get in, they lose their money? That's what the FDIC prevents.

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Calling it now.
2026 with the economy in free fall and the Republicans about to be voted out of office, he will make his move to fully seize control and declare martial law to stop elections.
The moves they are talking about will absolutely destroy the economy and plunge us into the abyss.
- Man I beat you to that by at least a month.
- I guess the positive is that if the economy is that fucked they might not have the money to resist the guillotine crazed hordes. Personally I think an ill measured rope would be the best method
- 2026 with the economy in free fall and the Republicans about to be voted out of office
  That won't stop the Y'all Qaeda dumb fucks from doubling down and voting in a republican super majority in the house and senate.
- or another financial crash/bailout in 5-10 years
- I'm looking at the positive side of societal collapse. If there are no banks, then I don't have to pay my mortgage.
  
  Worst case. Inflation eats the mortgage until it's just chump change.
  
  Don't worry, someone will buy that debt from the bank. You'll still get to pay.
- I don't care anymore, let it crumble.
  
  I understand the sentiment, but believe me: with a crumble of that scale, you will definitely start caring.

Remember that scene at the beginning of It’s a Wonderful Life, where people are all desperately trying to get into the bank because if it fails before they get in, they lose their money? That’s what the FDIC prevents.
Yeah. FDIC insurance is the only reason each of us will be left with up to ~~100k~~ 250k per bank account, if our banks go under. And most of us have less than 100k in savings, so it's basically the US government saying
Don't worry, even if shit hits the fan, you will still have your money.
I can't even be bothered to hear how his minions are going to defend this one. It's indefensible.
- They won't defend it. They have torn out their ear drums to criticism. They will hear no evil about the man.
- It’s 100k per account per bank, IIRC
  
  It was. Got raised to 250k a few years back
  
  You did not remember correctly. This is disclosed on every savings account with a bank that is insured by the FDIC. The limit was raised several years ago.
- Why would they need to defend it? They already won.
- What backs or gurantees the FDIC?
  
  That's a little hard to parse, but if you're asking "What guarantees the FDIC has the money to pay back Americans who lose their savings because of a bank collapse?": The FDIC does. From https://www.fdic.gov/about/what-we-do:
  The FDIC receives no Congressional appropriations - it is funded by premiums that banks and savings associations pay for deposit insurance coverage. The FDIC insures trillions of dollars of deposits in U.S. banks and thrifts - deposits in virtually every bank and savings association in the country.
  FDIC insurance is a selling point for many retail banking products (like checking and savings accounts), so those institutions pay for the insurance so people will have confidence to bank there. More importantly, they buy it because it's required by law currently.
  If the FDIC were abolished, the void would be filled by unregulated entities that would charge higher premiums and cover less, and there would probably be kickbacks involved - while the government watches with its popcorn - to disincentivise real free market competition.
  That's if there were any kind of deposit insurance at all, I mean. The idea might be to encourage the American people to put their savings into a form they can retain control over - like precious metals, land, or digital currencies.

MAGAts talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome but "conservatives" are still trying to destroy everything FDR helped create. That's how far the FDIC goes back. This is why they want to do away with physical cash. Can't have a run on a bank if your electronic money just suddenly disappears.
- Its the setup to the biggest robbery in history!
- Yes, they take the very, very, very long view at destroying anything and everything that they think is costing them one red cent.
  The qons hold derangement syndrome towards a great many things going back decades...

How does this spin to customers?
Okay, my checking account is no longer guaranteed in the event of your inevitable ambition-related collapse. Are you going to pay me speculative-investment class interest rates to justify me trusting you with the money? Or should I just go back to notes under the mattress?
- Trump, probably, after talking to his new bestest advisor:
  Just move all your money into Dogecoin. It will be perfectly safe there.
  
  It's easy to fight inflation in 2025.
  Gold, guns and moonshine.

There's no way that happens without full on revolt.
- I might have said something like that 8 years ago but now ¯(ツ)_/¯
  
  A little bullshit story from Trump and Fox about how our tax dollars insure other people's bad decisions and it's toast.
- I said that a few freakouts ago, bud.

This will isolate american banks on the long run. Who wants to make business with Leeman Brothers 2.0 (on an international scale)... or did I miss something?
Edit: Spelling

We still have bank failures now, Silicon Valley bank? Why eliminate it?
- I'm guessing because 1) dumb ideological reasons involving cutting every government service that isn't the military or immigration enforcement and 2) FDIC is primarily funded by fees from the banks. Consumers are so detached from how stuff works for the most part that removing the FDIC insurance fee wouldn't give consumers higher interest rates, but just decrease the banks expenses and make them more money.
- If you haven't noticed elon wants to grift crypto via the government so by eliminating oversight and forcing people to run the bank, guess what kinds of assets people will dump their digital dollars into?

How does this relate, if at all, with the insurance that the NCUA provides?

So they want us to buy crypto? If no bank and not enough cash to go around, digital money has to go somewhere right? Buy commodities? Cans of food/medical supplies to sell during the inevitable depression?

let me guess. they would not touch removed.

Don't miss the trick here. The fake economy built on systemic fraud requires faith that it works for it to work. There is not enough physical money to account for the fictional numbers they throw around hourly on wall street. Its all going to collapse and they want to make sure you don't have anything!
This is the setup to the biggest heist in history! Whatever cash and assets the wealthy have will be safe in their vaults and overseas accounts. The decadent will dine while you starve. They will rebuild the US in their dystopic image even more so than it is now.
General strike, crash the fake economy before they do. If wall street looses billions a day that will send a bigger shockwave than any dead CEO ever could. All they care about is money! You make that vanish and that's power.
Will you have to suffer, yes. That's happening anyway. If not now you will be soon. If we do it soon enough it will be the imagery money that disappears and not your bank account. If we wait till after they rig the table it'll be your loss not theirs.
We don't have much time.

Please be aware folks, the FDIC only has one percent of the money needed to back up their guarantee. I repeat, that's one percent. A single big bank failure would probably wipe out the FDIC entirely and not everybody would get their money.
- You shut your fucking mouth about the FDIC. They are 100% industry funded, they supported Americans through the financial crisis so none of them lost a dime from failing banks, they effectively regulate a large number of banks to remediate financial stress before it results in a loss, and they have never taken a dime of taxpayer money.
  And they don't need to hold 100% of the cash in banks, do you hear yourself with how stupid that is? They model how much cash they need from premiums to hold in reserve and they are very effective at it. Also, if losses increase they can levy a special premium on banks to shore up their liquidity position like they did in the financial crisis.
  The FDIC actually has a podcast series about how they managed the financial crisis in case you want to educate your ignorant ass. I taught a whole segment in it when I taught Commercial Banking.
  
  ^^^
- So Trump's solution is to just get rid of it? Seems irresponsible.
  
  Decisions that make no fucking sense and Trump, name a more iconic duo.
  
  Oh, I have no opinion on the political side of the article. I'm just saying that the FDIC has 1% of what they claim to ensure. Many people are absolutely reliant on the FDIC in case their bank were to ever fail. And that's not a particularly fantastic idea.
- Not even remotely true. In the 2008 financial crisis, between 2008 and 2012 , there were nearly 500 bank failures, and more than a trillion in assets involved and the FDIC covered every cent labeled to be covered.
- Funny considering the number of bank failures that have occurred without this happening.
  
  Small failures, yes. If a wells fargo or jpmorgan failed...

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