Che Mangione

Even for a shitpost this is corny

My grandma loves che because he was handsome. I now know how she feels

The irony here is that Che Guavara was a medical doctor AND in charge of torture... So that's kinda similar to United Healthcare.

Who told you he is left?
- Who gives a fuck? (Yes, I'm attacking OP here too)

"Che mangione"?
Non saprei, a me sembra abbastanza in forma
- tu italiano?
  
  io italiano
- That's it, Americans must know
  prepares a post to explain what Mangione means in Italian

attempting to agree with Che while reading wikipedia
"Yes, no, yes, hell no, FUCK NO, NO FUCKING WAY, EVER, Oh, cool! Hell no!*
I've never read about a person that I so much agreed with yet... disagreed with at the same time.

Hasta la victoria siempre

Luigi is a rich libertarian techbro bordering on AI cultist. he likes Thiel and Musk, he thinks that human immortality is feasible, that AI will outsmart us all real soon, and bought in in a bunch of other tpot/longtermist/ea horseshit hook line and sinker. he also only started caring about state of healthcare industry when it touched him personally. he's not leftist in any useful meaning of this word
this is his twitter https://xcancel.com/PepMangione these are his takes: https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1780863519677940189#m https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1750041444239434013#m https://xcancel.com/PepMangione/status/1600875886727016449#m this one is pinned tweet
- and Guevara was a Stalinist. Though nobody’s perfect.
- Putting people in boxes like this is how the working class divided itself.
  
  i dunno, he doesn't seem as someone who was "against the system". We are not flowing liquids that intermingle with each other, sometimes we have to use labels. anyways, either A) this twitter was a front and he was bullshitting or B)He may of "snapped" and changed his worldview on things.
- he also only started caring about state of healthcare industry when it touched him personally.
  So just like about 2/3's of humanity, huh?
  Further, Guevara himself has a pretty shitty history with hating on LGBTQ+ for no good fuckin reason, so I'd say it actually fits pretty well. He was a pretty shitty leftist as well. He was also well educated and a physician. Not so different than Mangione, huh?
  Any group which still believes in "strong men" being saviors doesn't actually believe in things like equality and equity.
- Mlk was an adulterer, and ghandi was a hardcore mysoginist.
  Stop picking apart revolutionary minds.
  
  zeroth of all, they were figureheads in large organizations. luigi has none of that
  besides, there's no improvement without criticism
- I don't know if recently we switched sides and socialism became equivalent with primitivism. But industrialization and embrace of science a technology was a big part of socialism when it started in the xix century.
  I don't buy the primitivism take, sorry. It's sad that people don't buy pregnant sonic commissions $80 a piece in etsy because some open source AI does a better job for free. But it has nothing to do with socialism or the struggle of the working class.
  I just say that the embrace of primitivism and the reject of progress will lead to conservative and reactionary ideologies, not progress and certainly not socialism. Without job automation working class lives would be miserable, there is not even a chance of socialism without technology.
  
  (literally writing this from lab) i'm not calling him a techbro because i have some kind of disdain for tech workers, i'm calling him a techbro because he's chasing unviable or harmful ideas or tech from old scifi that his cult (or at least was influenced by ideas typically associated with that cult) adopted as a part of doctrine. things like cryonics, some sketchy supplements that are supposed to give extreme life extension, or AI and quantum computing (because they think simulation = actual thing, and they hope to achieve immortality with AI). you might start to think that i'm batshit crazy just by explaining it, but i assure you it's them, and these people will be part of american government really soon. start there https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/LessWrong
  in no place i'm saying "technology bad", i'm saying there's plenty of harmful tech being pushed for profit and Luigi went full in in that sector. other than healthcare, that is
- yeah, luigi is a bootlicker too, he says so in first sentence of his manifesto:
  To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country.
  https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

Ugh please stop. The left needs to stop idolizing losers like Luigi or Unabomber.
The Che comparison is uncalled for because Che actually achieved something other than getting caught.
As far as US activists go, people who actually achieve something like MLK or Malcolm X or Rosa Parks or Harriet Tubman are 100% more admirable.
Choose winners! We need people like Musk for these causes, not losers who peter out and die.
/controversial opinion
- I mean.. Luigi achieved his goal. That CEO is definitely no longer alive.
  
  I don’t know if that accomplishes anything for people who are suffering from unfair healthcare policies
- Had me until the end boss.
- Tell me you don't understand the class war without telling me you don't understand the class war.
  
  Maybe I am being a little harsh, but that’s because I just think it’s terrible waste of someone who gave a shit and could have made a difference
- Look I'm not going to say I don't think musk could be swayed by some head pats and calling him a good boy when he actually does something right but every effective movement has both the face and a bit of violence
  The civil rights movement wasn't completely non-violent but would have gotten no where without smart and charismatic people explaining why things are so bad others might resolt to violence
  I'm sorry so say but the longer words fail on their own to change things the more "necessary"/inevitable violence becomes
  
  MLK also was very honest about the fact that the non-violence would only work if enough people committed to it.
  A national strike would do a lot more, but the issue is getting everyone on the same page.
  Which is why you had people like Malcolm X and Fred Hampton waiting in the wings, and why the FBI thought it was important to murder Fred Hampton.
- This comment was a wild ride
- Got you tagged as a corpo shill. You are about as useful to democratic thought as sandpaper napkins.
  
  lol 😂
- Trolololo