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The audacity

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I got fired as a teenager for visiting my late grandfather on his deathbed. I was fired within a few days of his death.
- I think there's probably a lot of context you're leaving out
  
  This is one of those times not much additional context is needed.
  
  Could also be one of those times where the context would only make it seem even worse.
  
  Oh no. The poor company has a side in this story too. Won't someone hear out the company?
  
  You know a better approach to your theory might have been to ask op if they were an otherwise model employee, or if there were any other circumstances that may have added to this one incident to account for being sacked. Or perhaps query what aort of job it was. If it was a supermarket job, or a paper round or something basic like that then perhaps the staff turnover is great anyway and something like visiting a dying relative is a drop in the ocean of the reasons someone may lose that job.
  I just think that being presumptuous and condescending might be the reason so many dislike your comment.
  Just my opinion though.
  
  Given they said they were a teenager, I'm going to assume not. Also no, it's just getting downvoted because that's how hiveminds work. It also works in reverse when they happen to agree with you. It's not that deep.
  
  "I keep getting downvoted because of a hive mind of people who just don't like me for no reason, nothing to do with what I said" sounds terribly republican
  
  I opened lemmy again a few hours later to see their reply saying "its not me, its everyone else" and all i could think was... there is absolutely no point in trying to get through to someone so un self aware. They have shwon they likely cant reflect on their own action or look inwards to find fault. We all act like this from time to time but this person had plenty of time to think before they responded.
  
  Lol these comments get increasingly emotional and deranged. This is why these are hiveminds responses.
  There's a word for what the original commenter was talking about, and that's bereavement. It's also protected under US law.
  So you're being incredibly gullible if you believe this person was fired for the sole reason of them being a teenager and their family member dying. That's just like cartoonishly evil and blatantly illegal, and it just reinforces a very black and white world view that this community is predisposed to. That's the whole point of why I suggested there's context missing here.
  Also are you new here that you think votes determine truth?
  
  Are you new here (to this planet, I mean) that you think law determines truth? People get fired for illegal reasons all the time, why are you so convinced that something so "cartoonishly evil" could not happen? A rule just existing in a book somewhere isn't some mystical rune that curses every business owner to act within its limits.
  He's a teenager at the time. What's he gonna do, sue them? Call the police, drop a complaint form to the NLRB? Lol.
  Even assuming he (and the business owner) knew his rights at the time, he has no way to personally enforce them without some strong organization (union) sticking its neck out to back him. In most cases, especially those under at-will employment, the employer doesn't even have to give a reason to fire someone, which is already a mountain of plausible deniability in the employer's favor.
  Of course without that, there's all sorts of bullshit reasons the business owner can make up; just as you've done here; to "prove" their side, that will confirm the same biases you've so clearly put on display for us without even knowing the guy.
  
  Have you ever visited the real world?
  
  Did you have an actual point with that comment
  
  You're near water now, it's up to you to drink
  
  Most crime in this country is perpetrated by companies against their labor force. The weaker the victim the easier it is to get away with.
  
  You're getting downvoted because you were an insensitive dick
  
  Waves hand hi, I’m one of the downvoters! I downvoted you for being an ass, no hive mind necessary.
  Even if there were other circumstances pertaining to their firing (and I’ve seen this sort of ‘cartoonish villainy’ before, albeit it was a model employee who wanted time off to go to her own graduation, so I’d say it’s entirely possible their story is true) to quote The Dude, ‘You’re not wrong, Walter. You’re just an asshole’.
  
  can we leave the “dOwNvOtE HiVeMiNd” on reddit please
  
  I'm guessing you mean the use of this "argument".
  
  That is correct.
  
  Ooooor you sound like you think you know the other person's life better than they do. Like a manager who thinks it's appropriate to fire someone while their relative is actively dying. No hive mind here, just a gaping asshole.
  
  I think you have a favorite flavor of boot polish.

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