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"The Most open Operating System"

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I had just hit the button on a recording session last night, and a fucking full page "ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THE EOL OF WINDOWS 10!!" (paraphrased) popped up over my DAW. Yeah, I'm prepared alright Microsoft. I've got a flash drive with Linux ready to install if you keep pulling shit like this. It's going to suck because a lot of audio software developers are garbage with Linux support, but if Windows is just as garbage, there's no reason not to migrate.
- Go DAWless. Buy a Synthstrom Deluge for example. Still need a DAW for recording and mastering though :/ I wish there was Ableton for Linux. "-if you keep pulling shit like this" I can tell you without a doubt they are just going to intensify shit like this instead of stopping. I'm thinking of switching my main pc to Linux and use my old win10 pc disconnected for DAW. No viruses and hackers when there's no internet. No Microsoft ads either.
  
  I've got an Oxi One and go "DAWless" occasionally, but I find it very limiting compared to what can be done in a DAW. I just have to hope Reaper works well in Linux. MIDI routing and what-not is pretty fickle with some of my hardware, now. (Not to mention some software that doesn't work at all in Linux, like Korg's dinosaurific software used to edit NTS-3 settings and patches.) It's a bit terrifying to think what's going to happen with an entirely new OS.
  
  Don't get me started on Korg software 🤦
  
  Haha! I was not prepared. I got an NTS-3 recently, and Korg's own software wouldn't recognize it if it wasn't in the first ten MIDI devices in Windows. I had to delete MIDI devices until it got low enough on the list. The 10-MIDI device limit hasn't been a thing for, uhh, decades? I was planning on coding some LogueSDK, but the initial experience has killed almost all desire I have to do that anymore.
  
  Do you mean USB devices? Because yeah, that's a Korg thing. Removing the devices doesn't work for me, I have to delete the data with a 3rd party program, then connect the Korg as one of the first 10 devices while my usb hub is in the back of my synth tower. Next time I boot up my pc, all usb devices are mixed again so big chance the korg is number 23 or something again, making me redo every step. This is why I never have my Minilogue XD updated or why I change banks or effects on it.
  
  Next time I boot up my pc, all usb devices are mixed again
  Oh shit, really?!? I thought it was USB MIDI devices, not also any USB devices... I only did it the once to update the firmware on the NTS-3. Whelp! Guess I won't be coding any LogueSDK anytime soon if I'm not even going to be able to transfer the results to the machine without a huge pile of hassle. Kinda baffling anyone is coding for it.
  
  Yeah, in the 3rd party program I also see my mouse, keyboard, Webcam, headset, external sound card, Bluetooth dongle, etc listed which I need to remove to get my minilogue within the first 10 devices. I just don't bother anymore, I live with the onboard digital oscillator and effect presets and won't change any of those. The machine is awesome though, wouldn't change it for anything. But the software support is so shit I just don't use it anymore haha
  
  Weird they're forward thinking enough to let people code oscillators and effects for their synths, but so backwards as to make the software you have to use to get access to those synths horribly out of date and painful to use.
  
  The Japanese are weird. Especially Korg. Their machines always have been quirky, weird and counter intuitive. Really cool though. But weird AF. Their machines are getting more intuitive, but their software is lacking behind.
  
  If I could make a suggestion, try already swapping to FOSS while ok windows to make the transition to linux easier on yourself. That is what I did, and it did wonders to help me become better acclimated to Linux.
  You could also see if you can run DAW on a VM in Linux or see if your software is supported with WINE. That way you could potentially just run the windows application in Linux without a VM. Most of the time, a "Silver" rating is enough, but a "Gold" rating or above is recommended.
  
  You don't want to run a DAW in wine or VM. Also, I'm familiar with Linux environment, I just can't live without Directory Opus (mainly) which is a big reason for not switching my main OS away from windows. Also, I've had loads of issues working with my NAS from Linux. In Windows network drives are just visible, in Linux not. Getting access has been a major pain, mostly I haven't been able to get it running with my RasPi. Every time I try a tutorial online I do every step exactly as shown but the result is always different and I get errors no one else ever had (unable to find a solution).
  
  DOpus is one thing I can't really understand why is not ported yet. It comes from Amiga anyway, I understand they might have done a lot of OS-dependent things since moving to Windows, but it should be doable, no?
  
  I just sent them an email begging them to look into a Linux version :)
  
  It's good to bug them about it, but last I checked they just didn't want to.
  
  *major sad face
  
  You may be interested in Wine compatibility of DOpus https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7453
  
  upvote because you're not wrong, But If they can't handle mounting smb shares, wine is probably off the table ;)
- Reaper is available for Linux. I can't vouch for it as I've not used it on there, but I've used it on Mac and it's great. Generally well regarded and is pretty inexpensive.
  
  Reaper is my DAW of choice, actually. I haven't tried it in Linux, though.
- They're actually trying to force people onto 11 now? That windows partition that never gets booted sounds really close to becoming more storage for a windows-free life
  
  Yeah, it's pretty stupid my machine isn't capable of running 11. It's a fairly modern machine. AMD 5600X, RTX 3080. 32gb of RAM. I guess it might just be some bios setting I'd need to change to make it compatible, but I have heard precisely nothing about 11 that makes me want to actually do that. Hopefully Microsoft will follow their trend and 12 will actually be good. I doubt it, though.
  
  Wow, yeah it's pretty ridiculous that machine wouldn't be able to run any os
  
  Mine went bye-bye a while ago.
  I initially installed linux on an additional smaller ssd. I recently set out to swap that setup around, so that windows gets to be on the smaller drive.
  Except that after moving Endeavour to the big ssd... I just didn't bother with setting up windows again. Haven't needed it yet.
- For audio specifically you might find FreeBSD easier to set up. As a DAW, not as a desktop in general.
  ALSA+PulseAudio\Pipewire+JACK are kinda messy compared to newpcm+JACK .
  
  Well, the PC isn't used only as a DAW, so I might still need Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I've been running some form of Linux for a long time, now. I've never tried FreeBSD. Don't even know what it is, actually.
  
  Well, the PC isn’t used only as a DAW, so I might still need Linux as opposed to FreeBSD. I’ve been running some form of Linux for a long time, now.
  If you're of the "advanced user" kind, you might find it easier to use than Linux - cleaner, much better documentation, ports collection, ZFS without pain or any combination of GEOM classes with UFS (which has snapshots here btw). It's a different OS, but a very pleasant one. Same X (or Wayland), same applications, etc.
  One can also use Linux emulation with CentOS 7 or Rocky Linux 9 environment for Linux binaries.
  Don’t even know what it is, actually.
  It's a descendant of BSD, and things like Ultrix and SunOS 4 were BSD, so one can say it's the most commonly used thing of what feels like Unix today (after Linux).
  OK, I think this reads like sales text.
  
  Haha! No, I understand. I rave about something I like, too, and then immediately feel like a salesperson or something. I'm not a power user exactly, but I can usually figure things out pretty quickly and have no trouble typing commands into a terminal and slinging a little code. I'll have to look into what kind of audio people are doing in Linux and see where it takes me.

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