YouTube's war on adblockers still continue

Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.
Caring about people.
- Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn't care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they're in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium
- If only we could directly support the people we wanted to.... Oh wait.
  
  Well you can actually. For example there is channel memberships.
- Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.

- I don’t get any ads, what are you talking about?
  
  Premium ads popped up a bit ago, there were several posts and articles about it. Apparently they're also testing different tiers of premium like Netflix.
  
  They might be referring to people who have it occur due to a technical problem (needing to clear their cache or something). Other than that, tons of my friends and coworkers have Premium and they've never complained of ads, so I don't think it's a normal thing that occurs frequently.
- IIRC that was specifically related to YouTube testing out a new Premium tier that allowed some ads, but also cost less, and only in specific markets.
  Not everywhere, and not regular Premium subscriptions, unlike how most posts try to make it sound, including yours. But don't let the facts get in the way.
  
  IIRC that was specifically related to YouTube testing out a new Premium tier that allowed some ads, but also cost less, and only in specific markets.
  Not everywhere, and not regular Premium subscriptions
  ...for now.
  Let's keep that in mind.
  
  Were they testing those ads on users that paid for an ad free premium or were they testing on users that bought a lower tier?

I will not use youtube and use ads. The sooner they break my adblocker, the sooner i won't be on their platform
- I really don't think they understand this... If an ad starts playing on YouTube I just turn it off and see why my ad blocker isn't working. If it doesn't work I simply don't watch the video. I had no desire to switch to Firefox because Chrome was just working for me, but then it didn't work. There's no way in hell I'm sitting here with my adhd addled brain, with my 4 year old phone in my hands watching for 30 seconds why I need a brand new acura.
  The only time I've ever willingly watched an ad was tiktok. Because they know I can simply swipe and skip it, but sometimes the sponsored content is creative and entertaining.
  
  They do understand it. They just believe the number of people who will do it are small enough to be worth it.
  
  You're part of less than 10% of the people watching YouTube, and you're in a 10% they won't care about because you aren't making them money anyhow.
  
  google just made it so ad blockers using their engine will not work the same... probably why it was working fine then it didn't

Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they'll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is "disable your extensions." I don't even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.
Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don't they pretend the issue is ad blockers?
- Well, Google sure is trying to take us in the direction of "you have to log in to Chrome to use the internet".
  
  Well let’s see how that goes when chrome is no longer google

I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.
- https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube
  
  Yep I know but our main entertainment device is an Apple TV.

Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven't experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in "desktop mode").

YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a loss to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.

Subscribe to Nebula instead.

I"m just going to watch youtube less.
- I subscribed to Nebula instead

Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?

Newpipe!!!!

smarttube.app

I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?
Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.
- It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.
  I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.
  YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.
  They don't, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.
  
  At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.
  They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.
  
  Have you tried vi music? Free on fdroid,open source,and its YouTube music ad free. Its quite nice.
  
  edit: for context, I have 7000 hours of uninterrupted streaming on YouTube. It's been well worth the cost to me. But this is with the model being ad-free. If that ever changed I would need to re-evaluate my position, but I do like that my subscription can give support to creators (support which is larger per view than that of an ad user) at the same time.
  
  I don’t get any commercials now and I use it for all kinds of stuff from educational videos to hours and hours of things like D&D streams. It’s all worth it.
  You pay nothing for it and complain about commercials. I don’t want to go shilling for corporations but whining about Youtube paying the bills is just sad, bud.
- If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That's why I use adblocker.
  
  So you don't want a free place to upload videos? .. why? Is it just because it's Google or too big or why?
  I love the idea of a free place to upload videos, I just wish there was a way without as many ads or with a cheaper ad free prem.
  
  So you don’t want it to keep existing(use of ad blocker because you don’t pay for it) but still use it because you…don’t like it? There’s always Nebula if you want to make a point, but not if your point is that you’re an entitled little weirdo.
- Give an inch, they take a mile
  Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it
  Peertube is an example of figuring this out
  
  How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?
  I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!
  Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).
- I still didn't get why you paid
  
  Because it is a service, not a favour. Keep up.

Google can suck the shit directly from my asshole Human Centipede style if they think I'm ever going to pay them for.not using their monopoly to harass me. When I can no longer feasibly block ads on YouTube, I'll just move to another platform. Thank goodness they're about to lose Chrome because otherwise they'd soon be injecting ads directly through the browser just like they do in their shitty news app.

On firefox I've been occasionally seeing ads leak into videos lately but refreshing usually fixes it.

i genuinely dont see why would anyone use the official youtube app/website to watch content at this point

Google's, not Youtube's.

Clipious + invidious (Wish Piped worked) ftw