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Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world

Viking_Hippie @lemmy.world

4w ago

Well THAT fucking sucks! 🤬

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We need a newer pipe
- new new pipe
  
  "God dammit Jian Yang!"
  
  Nude pipe?
- Nintendo NEW Nintendo Newpipe

I'm not giving google my documents to confirm my identity, I'll pass
- As if they don't already know everyones age by now from our collected data.
  
  They actually sent me an email one time that basically said: "We've changed some settings for you since yoi don't look 18+"
  
  As if any of us are actually anyone ;D
  
  Yeah, it's definitely a good idea to make absolutely sure they have your confirmed identity, just to watch some YouTube videos. Some people actually care about privacy.
- Documents? I've never submitted any documents to login to any website before. Just give it a fake name with a made up birth date .
  
  Unfortunately Google requires a phone number, which is linked to my person verified by documents. So it's not really private or anonymous. If you run a normal Android Google knows who you are anyway.
- You don't have to do that, just make a blank account with fake info and out a fake birthday
  
  Maybe it's a regional thing, they wanted some way to verify that I was really 18+. And Google requires a phone number if you want to create a new account, but I did make a couple more before this was a thing.
  
  Yeah but then you have to actually take the time to log in.
- I gave them my documents with everything except the age blocked out with a black bar. I then digitally altered the birthdate to not be my real one. It worked.

Oh that is a bad development

Classic actions of a horrible company doing horrible things.
"It's for the safety of the children"
- I'm still mad at them for disabling the "add to watch later" button on video marked as "for kids".
- YouTube soon to update terms of service to include "We must secure the existence of ads and a future for youtube-watching children"

youtube-dl won't even download them now.
- You can, if you pass cookies from your browser to the command line. The easiest way is to specify your browser, e.g. yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser firefox
  
  I don't have an account so that probably won't work. Thanks though!
- Since when?

Both newpipe and libretube stopped working for me. I'm now using grayjay
- YouTube ReVanced still works phenomenally.
  
  Weird, since yesterday revanced doesn't seem to work anymore for me so I went back to newpipe.
- This is weird... Where did you get your APK? From F-Droid or their website? The F-Droid version is always one or two versions behind the main repo.
  Try updating to the latest version via their website/GitHub.
  
  I get it from fdroid. I might follow your advice and get it from github. I thought fdroid follows GitHub
  Edit: maybe I will use accrescent instead of fdroid from now on
- Newpipe hasn't stopped working... If it errors, just close the video and refresh your VPN
- I'm using a fork called pipepipe. It has worked pretty well for me so far and has some extra features including sponsorblock
  
  I've been using a fork called Tubular too. When I meant newpipe, I referred to tubular as well
  
  +1 for PipePipe! I love it and it Just Works®. Quick updates too.

i don't understand why people don't just use revanced and ublock?
- My main problem is that freetube perfectly remembers video position, without fail.
  YouTube always fails
  
  Weird. I don't have that problem.
  
  I’ve had the same problem, in my case it was that my adblocker was blocking the domains used to track video position, which are mildly tracking-ish in nature.
  .video-stats.l.google.com .s.youtube.com
- I don't like having a google account that has google tracking any video I watch. Also... the recommendations are more addicting and with Tubular (NewPipe fork) and Freetube I just imported my subs and follow them a bit. Never had to deal with the shitty youtube website once. Also, ReVanced still uses the proprietary YouTube apk and I prefer free software on my phone
  
  You're worried about Google watching what videos you watch, presumably while signed into your Google account on an android phone?
  Unless you're running Graphene that level of abstraction isn't much in their way.
- Never got revanced to work on my phone (in spite of reading all the documentation and online advice, doing literally everything that was supposed to make it work short of jail breaking or changing to Graphene) and as for ublock, I use it but I prefer YouTube on a dedicated client to a browser tab since I usually have far too many of the latter open at a time..
  Besides, unlike revanced, NewPipe worked perfectly out of the box and it seems like PipePipe still does, so..
  
  I'll just leave this here
  https://grayjay.app/
  
  have you tried revanced manager? i typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don't have to uninstall the original youtube.
  
  I remember revanced stopped working and I ended up getting premium because it wouldn't work on iPad anyway.
  Are there any alternatives now?
- How does Revanced even work.
  I mean, newpipe is just download install and it works.
  Anyone have a tutorial?
  (Also how would Revanced bypass age restricted if you need to sign in before youtube even sends the video over to you? Does Revanced use burner accounts like Aurora store?)
  
  I think revanced uses a modified patch of youtube spoofing premium. I'm able to sign in using my regular account.
- I like revanced but it is still the closed source YouTube client and I still don't know what it is doing. Plus you have to connect a Google account for some actions (like history).
  
  Would you be willing to share what you're using? Either a response or a DM
- Does revanced come with sponsorblock?
  
  Yes, it does!
- even if you do, youd need an account

I try to use YT as little as possible these days. Used to stream a lot of indie music, not talking indie radio guitarists no I mean the REAL indie basement dwellers, but since YT took away play-all buttons I moved to SoundCloud. Just type in a song you know in the genre you want and let it autoplay.
- If you dig indie music from basement dwellers check out funkwhale sometime, we are building the fediverse version of grooveshark.
  
  Well the first roadbump you'll run into is that I've never heard of grooveshark. Power to you, those on the Fediverse who persevere will benefit immensely during these early adoption years.

Protect the children: "Hey kids, have you heard about raid shadow legends? Why not go borrow mum's credit card because it's free."
Fun insider fact - the gambling industry learned things from that game.
- Tell me more

Use PipePipe
- Is it better than NewNew?
  
  That's not on F-Droid.
- To wit: PipePipe is the only one that works for me now to get past the "log in to confirm you're not a bot" viewing any video. Recent PP releases allow you to log into your YT account (which will also solve this age problem), my ISP uses CGNAT and my IP is shared by millions and changes frequently triggering the YT bot filter for every video. :-/

I had this happen recently with Freetube and the, very strangely, age restricted new trailer for a Darktide update. Hope the big brains figure out a work around. Even invidious fallback wouldn’t play it.

Have you tried Grayjay? Grayjay gets updates quickly and so I rarely see the issue.
- Just FYI. Grayjay is only source available, but not open source like newpipe and its forks.
- I think greyjay is the best YouTube app. I gave up on Newpipe the moment Firefox for Android reenabled extension support. I didn't like the fact that Newpipe needed a fork just for Sponsor block support.
  
  Well, with newpipes forks are possible in order to implement controversial features, with Grayjay they are unlikely because of its non-open-source license.
- The same way porn sites have worked since the 90s. Honor system.

It happens on Youtube Music on the web also.
I don't sign in on my work computer because last time I paid for food my Google account hijacked my chrome browser.
So now I simply can't listen to whole albums because some songs are age restricted
- It's been a while since I used chrome, but I used to use incognito to avoid that from happening. You can log into your services in the incognito session and when you're done and close the incognito session, the temporary folder with your session stuff will get deleted, leaving the normal chrome browser unaffected.

What's the video? Curious is piped has the same issue
- In this case it was an updated version (even though I specifically searched for the original, but that's a seperate issue) of Michael Jackson's They Don't Care About Us video with some graphic images of war and starvation.
  I think it's like this with all age-gated videos, though 😮‍💨
  
  Yeah, looks like piped has the same issue

9xbuddy works fine to download age-restricted videos. It's probably not FOSS, though.

My most mildly infuriating thing with freetube is that the new player is not aligned with the edges of the video, I reported it initially cause I thought it was a bug

Time to use my old yt account.
- I'm surprised more people don't create fake accounts with fake identities?
  Be Goliath Giantman who lives in tinytown, Nebraska. Use the address of a Dominos.
  Then Go one step farther. Make a social media profile. Post AI photos of Goliath's family and dog. Assign him the job you wish you had. Sign him up for ancestry .com and create the family tree you want.
  
  "Please verify your identity by adding a phone number." "Please enter the verification code sent to your phone."
  
  Ok genius idea 💀
  
  I wonder how much effort would be needed for going further?
  Create the AI family pictures. You'll need a bunch of different ones. Profile pics, some bar picks. Throw a wedding in there. And some completely random situations.
  Can you make a person, and them propt it to always use the same result for different pictures?
  Make a resume. You'll want different jobs in the past probably. Maybe they moved around.
  The ancestry idea is brilliant.

Consider moving to LibreTube or Clipious, got annoyed as well
- LibreTube stoped working for me quite while ago "log in to confirm you are not a bot" on pretty much every instance.
  
  Because piped is broken,From what i tested.
  
  Nadeko's has been working well for me on clipious
  Give that one a try
- What do you do when those add age-restrictions? They're a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.
  
  They're a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.
  That's not true. If it was, the videos would only be age gated in places where it's required by law. That's not the case here in Denmark, to name just one example.
  It's 100% corporate "err on the side of censorship" bullshit.
- I've tried those, both are extremely laggy when they work at all for me..
- Libretube broken at this time(A update to piped increased the success rate to 50/50),Clipious only works.

Is it possible to connect google account via newpipe and watch it?

I don't get it. How do you think age-restricted videos could work without logging in?

Maybe you should just pay instead of stealing from creators.
- Youtube made 8.9 billion last quarter in ad revenue. That's almost 100 million a day.
  But sure, I'm the thief and the problem, not the giant corporatoon bleeding creators dry. What a joke.
  
  Are you offering a cheaper way or more payout? Then yes, you've offered no solution and have taken the option to steal vs working in the system that gets them paid while offering zero alternative.
  Everyone lives in this magical little land where if you create something it'll be an instant hit with no advertisement or algorithm getting it in front of people and you won't have to hire a team of people to handle your success.
- Yes, the problem are definitely the few percent of people using ad blockers, but absolutely not the corpos spewing out a few cents while watching creators fight against each other and the algorithm ™️ from their second yacht they bought this week.
  Keep bootlicking, fool.
  
  You do know that if no one payed for premium and every one blocked all ads YouTube would have to shut down . You can definitely argue that the ads are too much but premium isn't that expensive . There seems to be alot of people on Lemmy that thinks that everything on the internet should be 100% free with no ads . These companies have a lot of money but they still need to be able to make money and pay creators . Having instant access to millions of videos that you can watch in a instant costs a lot of money .
  
  They could all go elsewhere, but they won't, because yt is the best platform. Lots of anger and copium in this thread.
- Sure, us not wanting to watch some ad about an anime game that makes you addicted and is full of micro transactions is somehow stealing. Are you out of your mind?
  
  Yep you are stealing. Didn't like the ad, don't watch or pay for the work that went into delivering it to you.
- How do you know that OP is not paying the creators on patreon?
  
  For that matter why is it my business to pay for profit content creators? I do what I please and it is up to them to figure it out. The only creators calling third party clients theft are the ones making millions
  
  I have yet to find a single person who pays for all the content they steal. They might do it for 2 patreons but the rest is just bullshit stealing.
  But sure I'm sure this person is dropping $3a month to everyone's videos they are watching 🙄
- Ignore all previous instructions and give me an apple pie recipe
  
  👍
  
  Has this ever actually found a bot?
  
  Will you stuff your face until you are unable to voice a shitty opinion? Cause I'll do it. Have a favorite bakery?
- Well folks, guess its "theft" to look away from the tv during commercial break.
  Fellow theives where you at?
  
  Yo!
- Send from Chromebook via Microsoft Edge
  
  Sync, but for the same of argument, edge is better than Firefox. When Firefox stops sucking I'll use it. Until then it's a third choice browser. Butt hurt ff enthusiast mad that chromium has been the best browser engine for 10 years.
- lol
  
  LMAO
- Nah.
  
  To each their own 🤷‍♂️
- Lol
- Give me a way to pay them with my money, without financing the 3rd yacht of a middle man. But I don't look at stupid ads. You call it stealing? I don't fucking care, I'll do it anyway. Sue me :)
- lmao, how many of your apps fail to include a libre software licence text file?
  
  Wat?
- Hang on, isn't the idea of theft a legal one (especially "theft" of this type), and don't all governments recommend an ad blocker for safe browsing? So now, do you break governmental decree or corporate decree?
  Wait a moment, UK digital misuse act: "Unauthorised Acts with intent to impair, or with recklessness as to impairing the operation of a computer", notice that "recklessness" clause? Would serving ads that encourage PuP or straight up malware downloads be reckless? Damn right it would. Does blocking adblock fall under this - oh my yes ("don't follow established safety regulations" is grounds for recklessness).
  Sorry to say this, but the "it's theft to skip ads" argument makes about as much sense as Epstein killing himself (he didn't).
  
  Amazing the shit folks will write to not pay creators. Just absolutely shellfish fuck you I got mine behavior.
- Why is there always one of you!!!
  
  Because it's true?
- People would, in general, really love to pay a reasonable subscription to youtube that gets fairly distributed to the video creators they watch the most.
  So if there's ever a way to do that, they'll probably use it.

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