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And what if I told you that there's also plenty of soldiers that will uphold the constitution and will be ready to fight for it.

That would require massive and obvious reorganizations of the military. It would also effectively hollow out the officer corps with so many of them refusing an illegal reorganization. (The organization at the high levels is set by law)

It's far more likely Trump will take volunteer veterans into the DOJ, give them a badge, and run it like a military unit with all of the equipment and none of the accountability. It's easier, faster, and legal.

Nope! This is basic training we're talking about. They teach only the details that accomplish the lesson. And the lesson was don't follow illegal orders. If there's more to the story that contradicts the lesson, you bet your ass it was omitted.

It's going to take more than just replacing the leadership. Every e-nothing gets that same training; whether illegal orders are coming down from the president himself or their immediate supervisor or anyone in between, they'll be met with resistance.

Now, there are plenty of trumpanzees among the ranks who will put their loyalty to Agent Orange over their country and constitution, and do whatever he says no questions asked, just as it is with the non-military population. So, if we see an 'order 66' event, what's going to happen is a SHIT TON of in-fighting within the ranks to the point that our military readiness is going to nosedive, leaving us vulnurable to other forms of attacks, but I don't see troops actually hitting the streets like that in any organized fashion.

Again though, what I'm worried about are the cops. They're already completely loyal to that shitstain, and have a long and regular history of extreme unnecessary violence and not actually following the law. And they're already mobilized and infused into every single city in the US. Combine that with the civilian trumpanzees and we've got a very large force that have been itching for a civil war for like a decade at least.

Except the military is trained to… y’know fight and defend the constitution.

You've never met an e-4 with the regulations on their side. They will professionally become a rock and hate-love every second of it.

The thing is, they do...at least when I went through basic, they'd be PTing me, screaming at me, asking all sorts of questions to see if I know and understand and can perform under pressure.

Their opinion is whatever makes the shareholders the most money

That's too optimistic. Some of Trump's biggest supporters have been Generals like Flynn, Mattis, and Kelly. They just changed their tune after he fired them.

SCOTUS:

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law.

Im sure there is a gray area there with DOD adding it to 5402.01

Which specifically says local police can request us military assistance

I truly wish we could hold people like this to their word.

Oh they'll do an impeachment, they'll impeach Obama Biden Harris 3 times just to "own the libs" then do a senate shenaigan where they call up republican senators while blocking democratic sentors from entering then they vote unanimous 51/51 and block them from eligibility of future federal office, even tho they probably wont run again.

Understand that when your goal is blocking things, you somstimes do things you know will almost certainly fail. Republicans have used this playbook for ages to block the Democratic party

Make them get tied up in as many pointless tasks to distract them from their other goals. Sometimes you'll even occasionally win a long shot challange

Then we just get fukt

To my understanding the ruling doesn't affect impeachment. Trump's team argued that impeachment was the check and balance on presidential power iirc

You dont. I'm just fucken angry.

Came in late just to add what others have been saying I see. Please read the whole thread before you retread it.

I was suggesting offshoot paramilitary groups could spring up