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jawa21 @lemmy.sdf.org

I guess I'll die, metaphorically or physically

Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

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  • I feel for your very unfortunate situation, but maybe you should've demanded more from your party, instead of putting the blame on people who draw the line at genocide. If the choice is between the number of genocides, maybe we should take a step back and reflect a little because this doesn't stop anywhere. Next time there will be two, three...

    Republicans can go as fascist as they want, but if the Democrats are drugged in this race to the right, they will lose. They endorsed the wall, they did nothing about the immigrants and they 100% backed a genocide no questions asked, ever, what difference is an immigrant or Arab supposed to see from this?

    No matter how much you accuse the people who didn't vote, the truth of the matter is that nothing will change if you don't demand from your party to stand for some values. For now, they follow Trump moving to the right.

    • Our party? Democrats are no more my party than Republicans are. They are objectively the better option for someone like me given the alternative, but in no way do they represent me. They are just another element of the capitalist corporate hegemony, and I'm just a consumer to them.

    • I don't understand why only one group of people can be blamed.

      Trump voters, non voters, the democratic party, etc all have varying amounts of blood on their hands. Be it the blood of Gazaouites, queer folks, immigrants, or simply women.

      • Because the democrats didn't stand by any values that supposedly differentiated them from the republicans like I explained, but you don't seem to really care. You can put it on non-voters or third party voters all you want, the truth is that Netanyahu got anything he ever wanted and asked for by the US under Biden and Harris and not acknowledging this is part of the problem. Immigrants got the same treatment under them as well, which I also mention and you don't really care.

        That's the issue with not having any red line, you will always play by the rules of the far right. And that will make you indistinguishable from them which will alienate the people who want change. They don't see an alternative to a very very dark situation. In good faith, you would very much understand why endorsing the wall, genocide Gaza and standing proudly by it, supporting Israel unwaveringly, not promoting any substantial progressive economic or ecological policies and in general why having an extreme neoliberal agenda would not compel people to vote for you.

        It's not on the disappointed voters that you people can't understand what having a red line means. Consequentialism simply does not hold up when the difference are so miniscule and the evil is so big.

        I'm really tired of going over this again and again, if you could feel a fraction of the pain the democrats and their oligarchs brought by committing the worst crime against humanity of the 21st century and how the millions of pleas for embargo went ignored this past year and a month, you wouldn't be asking this.

    • I wasn't the first to ask the question, but I haven't heard an answer: If the genocide of Palestine is an acceptable price to pay to get a Democrat elected, then why wouldn't trans genocide also be an acceptable price because of the threat to cis women? The utilitarian ethical calculation still works just fine.

      • You could ask that question, but the answer doesnt matter politically. Women, cis and trans, are on the same side in that if the genocide of the latter is plausible, the former is already pretty hard done by. A worsening of one position necessarily accompanies the other. Gaza does not work like this. Republicans are obviously the worse choice there too. You can argue about red lines and such, but thats not how realpolitik works. We get two options, nothing more or less, zero alternatives. The consensus necessary to change this is not possible in the current political climate. Denying support to the lesser evil on the basis of said evil when their opponent will do that same evil but more is not logical.

        Tangentially relatee, there are those who sacrifice trans women for the sake of cis women. We call them terfs, and they've largely backed rightwing parties

      • I think you are asking the wrong person, I'm the one saying the Palestinian genocide crosses the line. Although I don't 100% understand the logic behind this. What's the threat to cis women?

        Although I'm suspecting the answer someone would give you is that it's because the trans genocide will happen to "us the US citizens" not some Arabs at the other side of the world we don't really care that much about.

  • I don’t know why Jordy is no posing the war on Gaza. When both panels should show the yes posing.

  • Never forget: Trump doesn't truly care about anything, except himself. Not even his family (not even Ivanka). He used certain hot-topic issues to get himself elected and thereby stay out of jail, but now he will promptly drop and forget all about them. He can't be elected again, so he won't even bother campaigning. I mean... maybe he'll become a king and nobody will ever vote again, but even there, he won't be "appealing to people's worst instincts" anymore - his election not only is a gamer-changer, it has literally CHANGED THE GAME. Except he's so terribly old, that sometime during his next term he will go the route of Biden and just kinda sit down and rest but never get back up.

    We saw this shortly after his first election, where the literal KKK got so terribly disappointed in him for not showing up for them. Granted, he shifted the scale, but nowhere close to what they wanted. And after his impeachment, he failed to show up for the people who were put in jail for showing up for him. And even before all of that, when he was given the Republican nomination prior to his first election, he said that he'd fix campaign financing and unfairness, then within a week (probably a day) said that he was never going to do that. Hey, remember "Lock her up"? Yeah, she's not locked up, and never will be.

    Trump LIED.

    So I get why you are feeling down - but don't allow yourself to fall too deep into depression. That's what they want you to do - to give up without a fight. But you should not, b/c there's work to be done - you are needed:-).

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