2mo ago

I'm not worried you're worried

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I'm not just worried, I am frightened and have nowhere to turn.
- It's OK, you're not alone in that fear.
  
  I voted against him. Was my vote illegal? Am I going to jail?

Hope the price of eggs was worth sacrificing all your civil liberties America
You deserve everything you're going to fucking get. That includes the women and Latinos that voted for him. Your faces will be eaten eventually and you will get zero sympathy from me.
- The amount of interviews I’ve seen where people say “yeah, he has some concerning talking points, but he promised a good economy” boil my fucking blood. The safety of half the population for the empty promise of jobs.
  Can’t wait til they somehow spin the failed economy against the Dems again in four years.
  
  I have an idea! Let's put the guy whose policies partly contributed to our current economic state back in charge of everything. He'll definitely fix it this time.
  
  We're truly and utterly fucked.....
- Please don't forget that neatly half of the country realizes he's insane and is terrified. Not everyone deserves this. Tens of millions of us out there don't want this.
- I hate this as a Canadian cause it's gonna mess with our economy. But it will also stoke more support for the current conservative dickbag running to be prime minister. Also I don't want more Americans moving here.
  
  This is going to have a chilling effect on democracy, and an energizing effect on fascism, worldwide. The movement to try to limit climate change is now dead and buried, worldwide. There is no part of the world that is safe from the effects of this.
  
  Also I don't want more Americans moving here.
  I have a sad feeling the rest of the world feels the same way.
  I'm at the point where I want to leave these borders. I want to go somewhere relatively quiet and developed that has worker's rights and isn't some major turbulent player in the game of global domination.
  I'd respect my new home and integrate and do my best to get along with my new neighbors.
  But I'm pretty sure we're stuck here to endure this madness.
  The rich have already departed though. So you'll probably end up with less humble American refugees and more pompous real-estate moguls. And for that, I'm sorry.
- I will be shocked if the cost of living comes down at a notable rate when compared to other developed countries.
  Conservatives have never been better at managing the economy, yet people believe they are, for some reason ¯(ツ)_/¯
  
  Are you surprised that most people are just dumb as bricks?
- I heard a lot of commentary about the price of eggs tonight. I live in San Diego, America's most expensive city. I've seen at some major chains a dozen eggs in the $6 - $9 range. Most stores I've seen them around $4 or $5 bucks a dozen. I also purchased a dozen yesterday for $2.79, and that was through Doordash even. So like, I call bullshit. Americans are dumb and too lazy to shop around. The gas station closest my house is $5.80 according to Google just now, but I filled up last night about 5 miles away with cash for $3.99. So infuriating that lack of effort or stupidity is likely what drove Trump back into office.
- Yeah the thing is the average trump supporter will be hurt less than everyone else (and that's the whole point)
  
  Oh, no. They will be hurt the same as everyone else but The Donald will just tell them that it's the Democrats/immigrants/gay people's/critical race theory's fault and they will believe him because having someone else to blame for their problems is a lot easier than fixing their problems.
  
  Hahahaha no they fucking won't .. they're just too goddamn gullible to blame spurious sources, like liberal policies that are fucking them with taxes....not the trillions of tax gifts given to the billionaires the fucking moron represents.
  The supporters will continue to be ignorant, stupid and blame all of their problems on liberals, instead of the 1% absolutely raking their ignorant asses over the coals
  We're fucked, the supporters are fucked too but they're too stupid to know the leopards will eat their face too.
  
  We all know that's not true. He hates his supporters. He just didn't realize the first time through that they were trashy and ::gasp:: poor.

About 6 2 million fewer votes for Trump than last election, which is good, but it doesn't matter since there are 18 14 million fewer votes for Harris than for Biden last election! Wher were those 18 14 million people? It can't be that all of them are in the "I don't vote for genocide" camp. What happened?
It's never been clearer that not voting gives the election to the Republicans.
Edit: Updated the numbers as more votes were counted, but the point stands.
- It’s very strange to me that turnout is lower, purely because when I went out to vote there was a line goin out the building, which I have never seen before in my area
- Maybe sexism and racism are not isolated to the right wing, possibly a lot more in the centre than assumed. Maybe just enough in certain demos to affect turnout.
  
  It's weird because I even noticed this among liberals. The presidential candidates are always referred to by last name. But both times a woman tried to run, people referred to her as her first name whether you are conservative or liberal or what have you. I have found it a bit disrespectful tbh, and all sides have been guilty of this. The US will never elect a female president, let alone a female president of color. It's bizarre.
- Not all have been counted yet
  
  They just called Wisconsin for Trump which puts him over 270.
- If Biden hadn't insisted on running despite his declining mental state, she wouldn't have won a primary, not very likely anyway. She is uninspiring and she carries the baggage of the struggling/non-existent middle class, housing market, 12 million border crossings etc.
- I don't know what the final turnout figures will be, but if it is a lower turnout, I can think of a few:
  2020 was the easiest year to mail in a ballot ever, and it got harder again as states reinstated various difficulties with mail in ballots.
  So many people didn't have to go into work in 2020, they had more flexibility to vote however they needed to do it.
- The honest truth is that the Harris/Walz campaign did not motivate their voter base. People were talking about doing fucking vote swaps with people in swing states because they didn't want to vote for Harris.
  I have no idea what the fuck the whole "courting the right" angle was, but it failed. Maybe it was the stance on Gaza, maybe it was the stance on immigration, maybe it was just feeling spurned by the party for caring about alot of issues like trans rights Harris left to the wayside while campaigning, but it didn't motivate people to cut through the bullshit and go to the polls.
  Meanwhile, Trump stayed in the news 24/7, constantly doubling down on his rhetoric, and his voters mostly all turned out again.
- It's not just the "I don't vote for genocide" camp; there's also the "can't this fucker at least campaign properly" camp and the "I'm not voting for this right wing nonsense" camp, among others. Harris was just that bad at this.
  
  So you're saying people decided to avoid voting for right wing nonsense, and let Donald "Dictator on Day One" Trump win instead?

When Trump was first elected, it made me realize how stupid most of the US is. The results of this election were not surprising, I even linked to the sort of self-serving articles that preceded just before Hillary-Trump's elections to people who were doing the same in this election. At least in this election, it's sort of like Israel, they are leaving no doubt about who they support. I don't even care if Kamala gets the popular vote, most criticize the electoral college word only and refuse to consider gerrymandering as electoral fraud, leading to it occurring in greater and newer ways this election.
- Why are americans so stupid and yet manage to export so much smart stuff from tech to podcasts to scientists. Is it some sort of dystopia where 1% rules, 20% live in a bubble and 79% are just brain dead idiots?
  
  1-America imports smart people from all over the world.
  2-Technical smarts and don't-vote-for-fascism smarts are different.
  
  Why do people from Europe go and build monuments and luxury in Saudi Arabia?
  Money. Same answer in the US.
  The US is an oligarchy, as attested to by this Oxford study. To answer your question, mostly yes, hence places like "Silicon Valley" and institutions like the electoral college.
  
  Yes.
  Then there's us smart ones who see what's going on, but we're outnumbered by idiots.
  
  I fear you may have hit the nail on the head
- Gerrymandering is clearly electoral fraud, but
  it’s not black and white. There’s no clear line between fraud and good
  the people benefiting the fraud are the ones in control of it
  gerrymandering does not affect presidential or senate elections

I am fucking gutted, I am so sad and angry and I don’t know what to do. I am overall a happy and positive person and believe in humanity but this win feels like it’s stripping me of a piece of that and I hate that! I hate that I feel so much hate right now, it’s exactly what I preach against, yet here I am. I can’t believe this is happening
- Ikr... I don't even own a car, I walk to work, take the MRT everywhere etc. and the Americans are electing a president who says "Drill baby, drill". I'm not an American, but it will affect us all... I live in Taiwan now and I'm fucking afraid of what his presidency will do to the geopolitical balance with China.
  
  While I have no idea how to handle China’s ever bigger presence on the world stage, I know the spiteful antagonism is not it.
- That's how I felt here in the UK when I woke up to see the majority voted for Brexit. Before that I thought people can't be that dumb. Apparently they can.
- I feel as you. I wanted to believe we're better than this.
- I m an atheist but I pray for you , it will be only 4 years , hope you stay safe.
  
  Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m essentially an atheist too (I don’t even give it a label for myself because god and religion are just not a part of my life, and I don’t need them to be). And yet somehow I feel I have exponentially more compassion and value of morality than a large swath of these people voting in a monster, acting under the guise of being “good Christians”. Maybe I’m delusional, maybe I’m the one missing something, I don’t know. I still believe in humanity, but man I’m just sad right now. Anywho, I’ll take all the prayers and positive energy for everyone that I can get right now, so thank you

Fuck. I hope Canada has some open slots for immigrants.
- Canada has an increasing anti immigrant sentiment right now. They've announced big cut backs to the number of immigrants allowed. Furthermore, moving to another country is difficult and expensive. It's not a realistic option for most people.
  
  Tbh most of the ire aimed at immigrants here is specifically targeted to either Indian or Ukrainian migrants. Infrastructure is genuinely buckling under the weight of migration but it's a case of too little investment and not entirely the result of immigration.
  I can say as a white, western immigrant to Canada that I've never had anyone complain about my immigration however I've had locals complain about immigration to me forgetting that I am indeed one of the immies.
- I'll marry one of ya's
- From what I can gather, Canada seems to be following the same trend as the US just shifted back a few years
- Seconded
- Until a trumper does something fucked up and the border gets closed off.
- Sucks here but welcome
- Ok just hurry up and get your citizenship so you can help us vote against the guy who's trying to be like Trump, thnx.
- Their country has a severe housing crisis.
- Canada will soon be electing a conservative government.

Looking at the bright side:
-no more vaccines (never liked needles anyway) -no more fluoride in the water (who likes nice teeth anyway, plus you can get fakes installed) -never need to vote for president again (think about how much time that'll save) -no jan 6th revolt in 2025 (maybe they will just for fun though, who knows) -perhaps Trump can fill the remaining seats of the supreme court and get a properly conservative suite of justices -Elon Musk will be our super-cool tech daddy
- No more environment (hate the outside anyway)
  No more Ukraine (the weather in Kyiv sucks and I have a gluten allergy who needs grain anyway)
  More refugees into Europe (yeah Europe is totally prepared for that and won’t cause more fascists to win European elections)
  
  Yeah fascists in Europe turned out great the last time
  
  No more environment
  That won't be a problem. America will simply be towed outside the environment.

I think that one guy with the folder "Memes if Donald Trump wins" is gonna have to bust them out.

Trump is not going to create a better economy. We're gonna go into a recession and he's going to blame it on democrats and COVID restrictions.
He's going to increase immigration, lower wages due to cheap labor, and cause wages to go down. He said this and the removed that live in rural America think he's going to benefit them. He's going to reduce the power of Unions.
It's clown world.
- It it bad that I think that's a best case scenario? Things aren't looking good.
  
  We’re going back to child labor in factories and brood mares barefoot and pregnant. Trans and brown folks are going to have a real bad time. I’m a white dude and even I’m afraid of what’s going to happen
- Clown country
- Yet what they’ll remember is the stock market skyrocketed

As if the world hasn't collectively had its head up it's ass recently...

More than anything I’m depressed by the precedent that this sets for the world on attitude and actions. He literally attacked and abused his way to the top. And a majority of Americans support it. Holy fuck.

This has gotta be fraud, there's just no way America would choose a convicted felon over a woman... right?
- There’s no way any number of women would choose someone promising to curtail their medical rights.
  There’s no way any non-white would choose someone so racist
  There’s no way any immigrant would choose someone scapegoating their culture and promising to deport them even if they are citizens
  There’s no way anyone who has listened to his speeches would choose a gibberish idiot
  There’s no way anyone who witnessed the mess last time around would want to repeat it
  There’s no way anyone who older person would choose a known real estate grifter
  There’s no way a parent would choose anyone threatening their child’s future
  I’m sure we could go on, but I just read an article that Trump did better than expected with every demographic except college educated women. How ?

There's no such thing as an undecided voter.
They've either decided, or decided to do something bad and don't want you to judge them.

Yep, we did it. We are Homer Simpson. D’Oh

They've done it before and they'll fucking do it again.
All these young new potential voters! A fresh wave of idiot!

We deserve a nuke.
- Just end it all already.
- And Ukraine is gonna get that nuke.

0 empathy for americans. You deserve what you get for either not voting or voting the baffoon. Even dems deserve it for stupidly changing the candidate and AGAIN acting like they already won everywhere which makes people think "oh then I dont have to vote"
- My desperation is not foremost about sympathy for the US, but for the consequences for international politics.
  This is certainly an enormous turning point for America, but it's also a very dark day for the outlook of the future of... well basically everything.
  The continuation of our species on this earth are facing problems that are more complex than can be put into a slogan or a headline, and both Trump and his voters are to dumb to understand such matters. And that's not said in hate or anger, it's just an observable, testable fact that they're literally unintelligent.
  
  Yeah its terrible for everyone else. Especially Ukrainians, Taiwanese and Palestinians. Though the last group I feel less empathy for now since they called for not voting either so they are as responsible as Trump supporters.
- i dont think swapping biden out was a bad move. i think it could have been someone better though
- How about all of us who aren't members of either party and just tried to stop Trump from getting into office? Zero sympathy for us too? Because I had nothing to do with any candidate that the Democrats chose. I just voted for Harris to stop Trump. And failed. But how is it my fault?
- Unfortunately my country loves to copy America in everything they do so we will be walking off the cliff soon too
  
  Mine also has fascists getting 20-30% a lot of places. But we have more safeguards
- I voted but I will still have to endure four more years of stupid self serving idiot.
  
  I’m most afraid of all the hangers on plotting how best to expand their agenda. At least his first term had the incompetence to prevent some of his worst ideas but that may not be true this time.
  My biggest fear is for the environment. Only the EPA and California are allowed to set environmental standards and the rest of us can only pick which to follow. Hopefully my state politicians will remain steadfast, but I have no way of supporting California when they come for the environment. If California can hold and the dozen or so that follow that remain true, maybe there’s still a hope for the environment my kids will live in
- you all need to learn to distinguish between the people/the government/the country

Jesus Christ. Locking down this massive shit show.

The world: literally doesn't care

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