2024 Presidential Election Megapost!

There's a lot of blame to go around.

-Americans who tolerate and accept Trump's behavior.

-Biden for not calling it sooner and letting a proper candidate emerge. Harris was the best at the last minute but there should have been actual primaries.

-Harris for not swinging for the fences and playing it safe.

What about the people that were protesting war crimes outside her rallies? No blame for them?

I mean, Harris is in the unenviable position of having to get the support of both conservatives and leftists at the same time (because the democratic party is an awkward hodgepodge of much of what passes for the left in the US, people who mostly just want to not be discriminated against, and people who fundamentally are conservatives but feel like the republicans go too far or dislike their stance on one thing or another.) It is nigh impossible to not have some unpopular positions if you've got to try to maintain the support of groups of people that sometimes want mutually exclusive things, and can afford to lose neither, because no position in that instance is truly that popular.

I know Lemmy likes to think that if she only adopted all of their positions, she'd win in a landslide, and if Lemmy was the electorate that'd probably be the case, but to be perfectly frank, I'm far from the most far left person I encounter here routinely, and I'm already in the position of not knowing a single other person irl that agrees with me on a number of my stances. The issue for Harris isn't that she tries to get votes from conservatives, she in order to win, she has to win some amount of them, the US is too conservative a country to avoid that, it's that at the end of the day, Trump has a cult following, and a lot of people that like him. He might seem "easily beatable" because he does crap that would sink someone else, but he really isn't, having that many motivated followers is a huge asset in elections.

Isn't the blatantly obvious answer to "who is to blame for Trump getting elected?", assuming that he ultimately does, the people that voted for Trump?

He went to black barbershops and McDonald's. Where the hell was she? I'm sorry, but this fucker was the most beatable candidate ever and it's close.

That's fucked up.

And buying toilet paper from the back of a scalpers Subaru.

I can't because I am currently out of state. I believe the cutoff is the post mark date. Still, if it doesn't arrive tomorrow, they fucked me...and my wife.

No, 50% of America failed the test. The rest of us did our part

Goodbye to the climate.

Goodbye to NATO.

Goodbye to US world leadership.

Jesus Christ. What an epic disaster.

Good point! Let me rephrase. 😁

You've dropped the ball, America. Don't trip over it, faceplant and give yourself permanent brain damage.

You picked up the wrong message if you think grandstanding about Palestine was going to have any effect on this election at all. A significant portion of this country has fallen to fascism already. We got a lot bigger problems to deal with than the protest vote about Gaza. This country is now a vassal state of Russia, and US hegemony has fallen to the same unitarian kleptocracy that defines the collectivist Eastern Bloc. Figure it the fuck out. War is coming. Decide which side you're gonna be on Komrade, or it will be decided for you.

what specific facts were down voted?

When the "anti-genocide" people accelerated and intensified the outcome of the existing genocide by protest voting for spoiler candidates it is really hard to muster any sympathy.

Sometimes you have to be willing to play politics in order to win at politics. Purity testing doesn't count for shit when the opposition is literally in favor of enslaving the entire human race for sport.

Way to go! You really showed the lesser of two evils who's boss, while the ultra-nationalist psycopaths erradicate millions more innocent people. Nice fucking job 👏

This makes the assumption that the protest vote went to Jill Stein.

I've been saying the entire time that both of these candidates were in a race with the couch.

Harris didn't give voters something to show up for. So they chose the couch.

Go over to Reddit if you want to have a nervous breakdown. It's a complete shitshow over there at the moment.

Hey, you survived one trump term.

It depends on the state. In some states, they're counted first, but some states do the opposite and some (NV) don't release any data until everyone is out of the poll lines. The final numbers will also vary since many states just require a post mark on or before election day - these "late" votes are counted last.

Narcissistic mortification is "the primitive terror of self dissolution, triggered by the sudden exposure of one's sense of a defective self ... it is death by embarrassment".

When narcissistic mortification is experienced for the first time, it may be defined as a sudden loss of control over external or internal reality, or both. This produces strong emotions of terror while at the same time narcissistic libido (also known as ego-libido) or destrudo is built up. Narcissistic libido or ego-libido is the concentration of libido on the self. Destrudo is the opposite of libido and is the impulse to destroy oneself and everything associated with oneself.

I'm hoping for this outcome personally...🤞

That's true but I think this statement is an indicator that this point in time was always going to be the gloomiest.