Feedback about our name: someone's concerns on sharing
Shoutout to our hard-working maintainers, first of all.
Wanted to open a space for the community to discuss this aspect of marketing/identity.
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chose the instance because of the name, stuck for the uptime, reliability and admins
Same here. If people don't like it, fuckem 🤷♂️. I'll find it all the funnier because of it.
The name says it all!
Same, came here to say this.
Shit just works 🤷🏻♂️
I Iike both slrpnk and blahaj but it's not like their domain names are magically not also part of this alphabet soup they're talking about.
It's... kinda the point of federation and decentralization.
Sure, Reddit or Facebook have brand recognition, they're also centralized corpo garbage.
If a blahaj user wants to share a SJW post, but finds the sjw domain untasteful, they can also just share their instance's URL for said post.
I started on lemmy.ml because I thought it was “the default one” to some extent. Learned that was a mistake pretty fast. Glad I found this one.
This comment would be more relevant a year down the line if perspectives shifted and users begged for sanitization, but:
Is it technically challenging or financially costly or otherwise problematic to mirror content to another subdomain, or domain mask or something? I thought of this after seeing oldsh.itjust.works:
try.itjust.works leg.itjust.works share.itjust.works subm.itjust.works
(2 & 4 don’t work as well as the current split word)
No reply requested unless it seems like it would be fun/interesting to type one
I'm not an expert on the specific of this, but changing the domain for the UI (as in oldsh.itjust.works) seems a lot easier than changing the domain for the backend, which includes federation with all other instances.
I don't know of any way to change the federated stuff without breaking pretty much everything and starting over.
Maybe there is and I just don't know about it, or maybe there could be an easier way at some point.
As someone who works with a marketing department for a living, please don’t ruin this with marketing.
I'm sympathetic... I'm not sure I'd be willing to share a sh.itjust.works link to my company #general slack channel.
Though that is far from the biggest problem Lemmy has for adoption. Many communities are simply flooded with 15yr old tankies.
I wouldn't share a reddit link in that scenario either, but it's a decent point.
Usually I'll be sharing either screenshots or just straight ripping the meme to send directly. But I also don't generally communicate with work colleagues outside of work
Jeez. It's just a link to just a site. What is the problem with that url? If it's share-worthy, just share. If people don't click it because of "bUt iTs nOt a .CoM!" screw them, bad luck for them. People need to study and pay a lot to be allowed to drive a car, but any technically challenged dildo can use the interwebz without the slightest clue about anything, and is also allowed to voice an opinion about it.
Literally joined because of the name
Firmly agree. It sounds both a) fun, and b) wildly reliable. The two things I needed back when I was a Lemmy newb
It is a decent normie filter lol
They can join lemmy.world for regime sponsored front
sh.itjust.works is my fav instance domain name too 😅
Hello,
I see you are on lemmy.one, do you know that your instance admin seems to have been missing for the last few months?
This is sh.itjust.works, not fragile.nitpicker.justworks AWOO AWOO AWOO
How dare they mess with Sh, It Just Works.
I might be too autistic to care about the prejudices other people might have about the urls
While I agree less common domains are usually red flags, I love that the Fediverse has largely embraced them due to the hobbiest nature of the Fediverse. We need more acceptable TLDs because there's only so many .com .net and .org domains to go around
Maube but I see pedo.school (amongst others) is a blocked instance on Mastodon.
What's the polite way to call someone a lil removed. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil removed ass
What's the polite way to call someone a lil removed. Genuinely curious because I wanna be PC but also an asshole. Anyway the creature in the post is a lil removed ass
I believe that the most socially acceptable way would be (and remember that it's an example, and not directed at you):
"fuck you, and your lil removed ass attitude. You don't know your father because he never even liked you, your mother blows strangers for bags of gummy bears and validation, and your ears look weird"
Note this is talking about regular gummy bears, not even edibles...
I've always been partial to "pissbaby"
"diaper baby" is my favorite, you can borrow it
Little fuckin ass removed?
I hope I nailed it 🙏
Fuck them. Variety of thought is why I'm here. The tankies suck, but I think of them as a palate cleanser after the right wing crap in mainstream media.
Chose the instance because of it being the first one that I found that wasn't overwhelmed by new sign-ups of refugees from the sub place. Stay because of the name.
It’s stayed true!
"sh! it just works!"
Shhhh... It just. works.
I chose it as a smaller, stable instance based in Canada that had a catchy name.
It is an an immune system against the normies.
I am dead serious. I think it's a good idea. It won't last forever before they think it's cool and start adopting it, but it'll work for a while.
Normie filter, based in Canada, less tankies, fun name. I mean those are strong selling points.
"I can't link this, it doesn't fit within my corporate values!"
Yeah that's why I'm here. The name makes this place much more difficult for corpo scum to infest it.
Oh there's plenty of corpo spam accounts being made, even here.
Most of us know to expect this to stay another largely pointless, niche project with little broad impact.
We're not hitting 100k MAU, we're not improving the internet, we're not dethroning reddit. We're just existing alongside them, in their shadow, with a slow front page of largely mid nonsense that sticks around for a couple days, with several communities' comments mostly coming from 1-5 "power"-users.
And people want it to stay that way.
need an instance named titfuck.gore. no one wants to cite that as a source.
As a shitter on the shitter I vote the name stays.
I'll take that to Matrix and my grave. 🤣
"oh no, swear words! can't share this now!"
this sounds like a personal problem, sorry Ned Flanders!
Isnt that the point? Dont like it, use another instance. The point of federation is that you can choose the website you use without choosing the group of people you interact with. Thats why it should be more common. I dont want to lose contact with people because they wanna use messenger or snapchat. I have to use both on a daily basis and i hate it.
Yeah you can choose the instance your profile is on or where your browsing but you can't choose what instance a post was made on. If I see a meme on lemmy and want to share it with a friend who doesn't know about lemmy depending on how I get the link it could either be for the cached version on my instance or the "actual" link on the instance where it was posted. It seems the default behavior on the web ui for the share button is to do the cached version but depending what client you use this can be different.
It makes adoption harder if when people actually do try to spread posts the person on the other end is afraid to click it.
The whole point of federation is that content is coming from all sorts of different sources all with different levels of trust.
The default sharing behavior should be the cached version of a post, because the instance you’re on should be trusted to defederated from harmful instances and so that trust should carry over to those you interact with.
You should pick an instance you'd be happy for your friends to see in the links you share them, and send them your local links instead of the poster's instance link.
As a new person to lemmy and the fediverse concept as a whole, when I was looking for an instance to join it was the unique URL that drew me here. And the fact it's run by a fellow wargoose. I can see why people would dislike the URL though. So far I like it here and hope it doesn't change.
Welcome here!
Eh, I chose this instance because it was one of the top 5 or so, not because of the name. I would probably hesitate to share a link from this instance, but honestly, I don't do that anyway, I generally just share links to actual articles linked here.
So for me, it's really a non-issue. I have much larger concerns about how Lemmy works in general than naming of any one site, such as the one mentioned in the OP (no indication from domain name that it's a Lemmy instance, one instance lagging on updates can break when viewed from other instances, etc). So to me, it's going to stay niche because the user experience kind of sucks.
The internet is serious business.
The anti-gtld propaganda is spicy hot lately, anything non-.com is a keyboard rage trigger.
A lot of people have uneducated opinions on gtlds, but as a professional DNS engineer: fuck gtlds. They're literally corporate cash grabs that make my work much, much harder and actively make the Internet worse.
Hmm, I like it here.
You don't owe anything to anyones prudishness.
I'm so used to tech and Linux stuff that I first thought that it was a special interest instance for shell scripting and TUIs. Now, it's a toss up between "shit just works" and "sh! It just works".
You can link from almost any other instance. This is a skill issue.
I won't go so far as to use the word "normie" like this is 4chan, but I will say: I think it's fine. I'd rather have slow growth, thanks. I'm not the arbiter of what kind of users we should attract or anything, but if they have a problem with our silly name I don't want to hang out with them.
That's partly why I'm here. I don't want a big place where every normie shows up, and it just becomes facebook. Does this specific sever want to become a mega-platform?
Would a URL shortener work better for sharing Lemmy links/instances?
You want the url to look less suspicious, not more.
Maybe a Lemmy specific url shortener that only works for lemmy posts.
I thought it was for shell script aficionados.
yeah, who would ever be on such an instance
haha
Cross-post the thing to another instance, then share that link.
You could always use lemmy.org
How do we know that instance will stay afloat though? I see search engines indexing Lemmy already, but they're all scattered with whatever instance they happened to get in touch with.
Are people actually sharing fediverse links directly? I just save the image or copy the link the post is linking to, and share that.
I share it when I think the person might someday sign up for the fediverse if they see enough links
Could build a reverse proxy to mask Lemmy links behind something that seems more legit
Shhhh 🤫 it just works, there's no need for change