Does anyone else hate winter time ?
Great, we could sleep one hour more, but suddenly, it's getting dark at 18.
Great we have one hour more of sun on the morning, but instead of being pitch black when starting to commute to work it's just still dark and by the end of November it'll be pitch black anyway.
I hate summer and daylight saving more.
If you're too cold, you can always do something. If you're too hot, you can only do so much then be miserable.
daylight saving is awesome. the only good part about summer.
i get to leave my grey office to sunlight still!
I am of the opposite opinion, I LOVE winter for the exact reasons you're describing!
I have some inherited photosensitivity, so nighttime's my favourite time! I also handle the cold waaay better than I handle heat, and my organism just feels like it starts coming back to life once autumn shows up!
Summer pretty much always makes me wish I could sleep my way through it.
The only thing I hate about Winter is not Winter’s fault, and it’s basically what you said:
Work is somehow perfectly scheduled so that you’re inside, staring at a brick wall for 90-100% of the daylight hours for 5 out of every 7 days.
Winter is beautiful in ways that are completely unlike the other seasons, but unless you’re very fortunate you only get a few glimpses of it.
I feel like if you were designing a society to make people suffer, that’s how you would do it.
It's a rudiment of a society where artificial light was a scarcity, so people worked during the daylight.
But also these days you can easily get a job with a flexible schedule and spend your mornings enjoying the sun, and then work till the late evening.
And because most people have to drive in winter, if you live in a snowy place in north America, winter means slick roads, and snow shoveling.
I just want to pick one and stick with it. Like, holy fuck, the switching is awful.
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Average winter enjoyer here, just chiming in to say “fuck summer!” We may be few in number, but we are large in spirit.
I hate the concept of Daylight Savings Time. It's such a "Baby formula: Now with even more lead!" solution to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
The table is a little bit too far South, it's kind of difficult to walk around the table because the wall is too close. So we'll lift the roof off with a crane, suspend the table from a sophisticated set of guy wires, tear down the house around it, and then painstakingly reinstall the house 16 inches to the South so that there's room between the wall and the table.
I despise getting ready in the dark and getting home in the dark. It's harder to fit in a lil fishing after work and I can't wear shorts and crop tops outside on the deck.
Winter stinks!
The difference between DST and ST isn't going to help that. The daylight is shorter regardless.
Yes it would. I, like most 21st century humans, wake up for work and have free time after work.
In practice for my relatively northern latitude this means I get a little bit of daylight before work (except perhaps around december/january), but winter time is very specifically designed so that today the sun will set exactly 6 minutes before I end my work day.
Were we to keep permanent DST I would get an hour of free time in the daylight today, and at least a little bit of light outside for all winter except perhaps for a month around December. As it stands, I do not get any free time in sunlight for 5 days a week for the entire duration of ST. The switch to ST means "bye-bye sun" and I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I FUCKING HATE IT.
The 24 hour clock is a made up construct. So are business hours. But if we already agreed to change one of these twice a year, can we make it so that it is not optimized to trap me inside for the entire duration of daytime????
Absolutely love winter. It's my favorite time of the year. I like being inside when it's cold and dark out. I like not sweating. Feels good man.
Absolutely detest switching back and forth between standard and DST. What a load of crap. Just pick one and be done with it.
I like winter but the daylight savings nonsense sucks, I don't want it to get dark even earlier, it's all backwards.
I'm aware of all the dissatisfaction with DST, but hear me out... What if we just weren't going hard enough? I propose Runners Savings Time. We set the clock forward like, 4-5 hrs. It'll be dark during working hours, but then you'll have some time to go for a run or do whatever during the daylight.
But you know that DST is summer time? In winter, we have „normal“ time, as in the sun is at it's highest at 12 o'clock.
Huh, I completely forgot about that, we should keep it for the entire year then.
Yes. Not me, but yes.
The best day of the year is the first day of daylight saving time (end of March). There is no day I look forward to more every year, not my birthday, not Christmas, not Easter, not a day I go on vacation: the first day of daylight saving time beats all of these.
I also love-it so much, Suddently, there is day light late, you see people outside, no matter whether it's about kids playing outside after school, or adult having an evening walk, but suddently looks like life is back
18?
Damn southerners.
I like sun as much as the next person but I feel getting more daylight by changing the clocks is like going on a diet by changing the definition of a pound. Standard Time all year for me please.
It is the standard.
Honestly I don't really like winter because that's when my seasonal depression starts coming in full effect
I believe I have read read somewhere depression (or suicide I am not sure) is more common in summer. Which to me seems counter intuitive until I found out the main cause for this might be loneliness. So lonely people seeing other people getting together.
Would you say in your case depression worsens due longer nights or holiday season in December?
Winter? Nah. Love it for many of the reasons already being stated.
But the fake as fuck holiday season that comes with it? Done with it. I'm celebrating Festivus unironically this year. Done with the rest of that shit.
You ditch fake holidays and... replace them with another one?
Right? Lmfao.
Do you miss the part where it's an open rebuttal of the over commercialization of Christmas? Instead of wasting a bunch of time putting up decorations bought simply to fill some billionaires pockets, I'll put up a steel pole.
Also you're missing the Airing of Grievances as well. Thats integral. The family fight is gonna happen regardless, so might as well get some therapy out of it and bury the axes while you're at it. The Feats of Strength will get rid of whatever animosity is left too.
Oh, I'm sorry, did you grow up in a normal, functional family?
The point when it gets dark at 4pm in December is the worst.
At 18? I wish. Getting dark at 16-17 here now.
It will get dark at 15:30 for us in the winter assuming therebis any light at all with the continual rain cloud cover we have for West Coast winters
Yes! Brother, we might be few but we are here. Fuck Wintertime, summertime all along.
definitely hate DST, but mostly because of the annual death toll it entails, and the fact that it makes no fucking sense.
I like the hours being dialed back. Whenever they're dialed forward, it feels like time moves even faster than when it did beforehand. I didn't like that feeling. Feels like everything is just being rushed and rushed.
I prefer winter over any other season
The best part about winter is staying inside, Christmas, Christmas baking, and New Year's/New Year's Eve. Otherwise it's miserable for me because I really dislike the cold.
It doesn't help that last winter my area was getting below zero (F°) weather, which I can never recall having to deal with much before. Calling that miserable is an understatement.
The only other good thing about winter I can think of is getting a god damn peppermint patty (hot chocolate w/ peppermint schnapps). Otherwise, absolutely no other reasons for me to like it.
No light is not natural for humans... I feel like I'm missing out on life for four-five months every year. November to March is awful.
Nope. I love Autumn and Winter the most! 🍁❄️I actually can't stand warm/hot weather 😭
Moving towards the equator made me hate winter a lot less. Having more consistent daylight throughout the year made a big difference for me.
I work 3rd shift, the darkness doesn't bother me. I hate it when it's daylight when I go to work and daylight when I come home.
When DST flips, I get an extra hour of work and my sleep schedule goes to shit for a week.
"Great, we could sleep one hour more" can you explain this? I have no idea how the season determines how many hours of sleep everyone gets in a day,
When we switch to DST, we "Fall Back. ". We set the clocks one hour back, at 2:00am Sunday, so basically we get an extra hour of sleep just on that night. Then we lose one when we set the clocks forward in the spring.
To be fair, I don't think that extra hour, once in the Fall, is used as a reason for Daylight Savings in any debates.
No, DST is springing forward. Winter time is the notmal time.
Oh, I wasn't even thinking about places that changed time; I thought it was something just related to winter itself, hence the confusion. Thanks!
I wish we could hibernate, honestly
Dark at 18. Its the dark at 16 that really gets me. and it is the dark to. I thought it was the cold. in particular I bike less in the winter and I thought I was a wus but I actually find im fine biking in the afternoon. Its really the problem of I don't like to bike in the dark.
No, literally zero other people hate wintertime.
Some people.love taking things literally despite obvious context though.
Winter time is standard time with the sun at the highest being noon. If we all want more sun in the evening then we should shave an hour off the workday and stop whining that the sun comes up earlier in the summer.
Yeah but summer time is better
No, I hate DST. Getting up an hour earlier sucks. I also prefer the darker season in general because I feel like I sleep better.
I like the winter. I moved to where I live now specifically so I could experience seasons (Southern California has one season all the time)
Also, your post reminded me of this Smashing Pumpkins song.
I like wintertime, it is comfortable sleeping in low temps. Great for my astma as well.
I also like the dense sound taking a walk when it snows, and appreciate returning to a warm home after. Then it is time for green pea soup or stamppot and rookworst.
They should get rid of changing clocks though
Does anyone else lowkey love the short bout of darkness before the sun rises and you're up early? It feels like Christmas but nobody else is up
I do. My coffeehouses aren't crowded yet; it's awesome.
I sort of feel like I'm walking in a tunnel that gets smaller and smaller as I walk.
I go back and forth. I like getting cozy and warm, but when it's cold my skin feels uncomfortable, like it's crawling or shrinking on me, like I put it on wrong. And my hands feel gross and cold and I rue having to touch myself with them in the bathroom.
But when I get warm enough it's nice.
My 2,5yo has been refusing to sleep earlier than 21:00 on the dot for months now so I'm hoping winter time will finally get us back to a somewhat sane schedule. So far it's working, she just fell asleep at 19:30.
Not me. Winter time is the best time of the year in AZ.
As a native, I've only ever known winter time. (Cause we don't have DST for those who didn't know.)
When I moved north, I realized there are only two seasons here: looking forward to summer, and dreading winter.
Winter has his charms as well.
I dont care what outside is like. It's always dark in the basement.
Hate is a strong word, but yes I prefer the longer days of summer, and like doing summer things, and yes going to work in the dark sucks, but coming home from work in the dark is even worse, so dispiriting.
It's not even cold here, and summer too hot for most but summer is still my favorite, winter least favorite.
It's like: would you prefer going to work/school in the dark and coming gome during the day or would you like to spend all the daylight at work/school
I was born and raised in a country with four distinct seasons. I loved all the seasons. However, I have always been a winter person. One of my bucket list items is to live in a place where the sun sets for months and there is only one long winter night.
I’m an uber driver. I get to be outside in the daylight all day. Work whatever hours I want. It’s nice.
I love winter. Cold, dark, and snowy are my jam. To be fair this may be an ingrained coping mechanism from growing up in Alaska.
I kinda like it. I guess it helps that in my part of the world it's absolutely blazing hot in summer. I love that, but with the intense onslaught of sun over that period, by the time winter rolls back around it's kind of a welcome change. I also just look way better in winter clothes so it's nice to feel better about my appearance for that portion of the year. I also find that it's way easier to warm yourself up when it's cold than to cool down when it's hot. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big wuss so all summer I'll whine and moan about it being soo hot and then immediately complain about being freezing in winter, but on balance I think I find the discomfort of my region's winter a bit easier to deal with than its summer. I also like not being completely covered in a layer of sweat as well. I don't especially care a whole lot about when the daylight hours appear, I'm as happy being out and about at night as I am in the day and appreciate either for different reasons so if more of my waking hours are taking place in darker periods of the day then I'm just appreciating those for what they are just as I also appreciate all the bright and sunny hours. I would say that as someone who has trouble sleeping when it's too bright I definitely prefer it when the sun comes up later and doesn't wake me up. It probably helps that I'm hardly an outdoors-man so it's not like much if any of the things I'd actually do across a year are really curtailed by the mandates of the season, though I guess I do miss the beach. Besides, like a lot of people, I work indoors so a good chunk of any given day is taken up by a minimum 8 hours of work usually starting at 09 so when the weather is absolutely beautiful and sunny and clear I'll see it for about 20 minutes out the car window before going in to a building with the blinds drawn and the air-conditioning on until I emerge at what is then evening hours.
I don't mind the winter if its cool & dry, not so much when its windy & raining..
Its the fucking worst.
You only get winter because you also have the other three. (We only have autumn here in the UK though).
You could always find a planet without a tilted axis. 😁😁
I wonder how much energy it would take to adjust earth's tilt 🤔 nothing could possibly go wrong with that, right?
Oh oh oh!
Don't even think about that! P-l-e-a-s-e! I'm kinda used to autumn now! 😁💕