2mo ago

'He is in serious jeopardy': Legal expert warns Trump his back is against the wall

www.rawstory.com 'He is in serious jeopardy': Legal expert warns Trump his back is against the wall

Should Donald Trump fail a second time to be re-elected he faces the very real possibility of jail time and massive financial penalties due to the sheer volume of criminal cases and civil lawsuits that are on hold until after the election. That is the opinion of Syracuse University law professor ...

That is the opinion of Syracuse University law professor Greg Germain who explained in an interview with Newsweek that the former president's only path to get out from under the federal cases he now faces is to beat Vice President Kamala Harris in less than two weeks and then push the Department of Justice to drop the cases filed against him.

As Germain stated, the multiple federal cases Trump is facing are solid and his only path to victory may be having them shut down.

Newsweek source: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-legal-cases-georgia-washington-florida-new-york-stormy-daniels-chutkan-cannon-1974406

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criminal cases and civil lawsuits that are on hold until after the election.
Why are they on hold? It's insane it's taken so long to push those cases, and it's even more insane if they are on hold.
Trump is a normal citizen, and shouldn't enjoy special privileges.
Except USA is no-longer a country of law, it's a corrupt oligarchy.
- Always has been but normal people just finally starting to understand how bad it really is.
  Modern oligarchs dont even pretend anymore and they dont have since peasants are fighting each. They dont care who wins elections for the most part as they will mostly get what they want either way
- Except USA is no-longer a country of law, it's a corrupt oligarchy.
  it always has been lol originally only white property owners could vote
- Merrick Garland is a failure of epic proportions. It is a small silver lining that the Repugs blocked his Supreme Court nomination, not that their picks were better.
- Except USA is no-longer a country of law, it’s a corrupt oligarchy.
  It's always been this way. The internet just does a better job of propagating information about it.
  
  No, Nixon stepped down because of Watergate, you won't see similar honesty from Republicans today.
  They are exploiting the judicial system, and to Prosecute Trump for things he did in the open as president to enrich himself and his family isn't pursued, even now after 8 years.
  After Nixon the Republicans decided to try to control the courts and the political narrative, so they never would lose a case either legally or in the public eye like Watergate again.
  Republicans have been systematically undermining USA for 5 decades now.
  It's way past the time to stop it, If Harris doesn't win, and start the process towards legal and political normalcy, it could easily be to late.
  
  that's why they banned tiktok
- I get the frustration, but I also get where the authorities are coming from. Imagine if precident gets set that a political candidate can be mired down in lawsuits, regardless if they're plausible or not. Then someone like trump comes along and says cool that worker great against me, I'll just throw a shit ton of made up lawsuits and cases against all my future opponents.
  
  Except that he's explicitly choosing to be a political candidate for the purpose of avoiding the lawsuits. A lot of these allegations occurred before he announced he was re-running, and then the lawsuits got put on hold.
  Your scenario creates a method for anyone to delay consequences by running for office. Although we both know it wouldn't really work for anyone. Trump gets his special treatment.
  
  No that's a false narrative, the criminal cases are based on public prosecutors running them.
  What you are claiming is for civil suits, of which a couple have been settled, despite obstruction attempts by Trump.
  If it gets to a point where a politician can ask public prosecutors to put opponents in jail, USA has long ceased to be a democracy.
  Trump is already a convicted criminal, and cannot vote in several states, still he can run for president, and enjoy privileged treatment.
  Where an ordinary person voting because she was told she could, got 5 years prison for voter fraud!
  
  In your scenario, do you imagine that all the Trump-appointed prosecutors and the Trump-appointed judges will willingly delay the cases of Trump's "enemies of the state" until after the election out of some respect for the sanctity of the democratic process?
  It is a horrible, dangerous precedent to say we can't justly hold the guilty accountable because some bad actor in the future may unjustly hold the innocent accountable.
- Not everything is on hold. The dates and deadlines are simply not right now. Lawyers are preparing motions and the like in the background. Work continues. Of course that varies by case.

Why exactly are they on hold until the election? Shouldn’t it be like really important to determine if he’s guilty before they crown him?
- Corruption, pure and simple corruption.
  
  So a corruption that will exist after the election as well
- The humans who implement the judicial system are likely fearful of the purge that would come following a Trump victory.
- I felt the same for a long time, but as much as I hate to admit it, it does kind of make sense in an abhorrent kind of way.
  The hierarchy in a democracy is supposed to go...
  Voting Public ➡️ Representatives ➡️ Laws ➡️ Courts ➡️ Rulings
  That being the case, a Court shouldn't really hear cases that might undermine the will of the Voting Public.
  If courts are empowered by the Voting Public, then a Court should not be in a position to make a Ruling the Voting Public does not want, despite that Ruling being correct in the context of the Law.
  Another way of saying the same thing, is that if the Voting Public want's Trump to have a fair trial they would obviously not elect him as President.
  
  I understand your viewpoint, but disagree.
  By that argument any criminal ever could argue against prosecution because they intend to run for a public office. Ridiculous exaggeration of course, but if Trump gets this chance, everyone else should too.
  
  Well, if the voting public has ultimate say than why are there rules on who can become president in the first place?
  
  While you make a point to consider, an educated and informed electorate is bedrock to a democracy.
  Maybe the results of the Discovery process should be public record before a vote.
  
  Another way of saying the same thing, is that if the Voting Public want’s
  If winning the vote entailed an actual public majority, you might have some argument there. But that's not what we have.
- I want to see that orange turd locked up as much as any rational levelheaded person, but my fear is that it would set a dangerous precedent to convict and jail during an election.
  Because all the batshit bonkers right-wingers in politics would use it as a baseline to file court cases against any of their political opponents during election season, find some Uber corrupt right-winger judge and miraculously the only ones left on ballots are the repubs

How many times over the last 4 years have I been told "Oh, they really got him now!" Do any wealthy politicians face consequences for the shady stuff they do( I include democrats in this category)?
And then I think about George Floyd who tried to buy a pack of smokes with a phony $20, and possibly didn't even know it was counterfeit, but was killed shortly thereafter.
This is not the America I want
- Four out of the past eleven governors of Illinois did prison time. I think most of those were Democrats.
  
  Well that's something I suppose.
- Yeah, how is being ahead in the polls, with an inherent electoral college advantage, a Congress that's willing to bend the rules and a supreme court that thinks laws can just be changed depending on the court case 'having your back against the wall'?
  Even if he loses the election he's still going to be able to pay lawyers to keep him out of jail until he ~~chokes on a Big Mac~~ dies of natural causes.
- He has a conviction in one case and is awaiting sentencing. The system has been moving during those 4 years.
  
  The system has been ~~moving~~ intentionally hamstrung at every opportunity by judges he picked during his first term, to give him a chance to be reelected before he is sentenced during those 4 years.
  It has been maddening watching Teflon Trump dodge and evade sentencing, by blatantly cheating the system using pawns he installed.
  
  Not quickly enough.

He should already have been in prison by now!

I for one am livid that I'll have to wait until after the election to see the disappointing wrist slaps he might get from whichever cases don't get sabotaged by sympathetic judges.
- It really is outrageous.
  I suppose "I'm running for president, let me go" is the new thing to say if you don't feel like going to prison right away. /s

Trump, his back against the wall.
The Tamarian phrase for important things that need to happen but won't happen in time.
- 2024, when the walls fell
  
  Harris, with her arms wide
  America, when the Universal Healthcare arrived
  Trump, in an orange jumpsuit

We don't get to have nice things.
Not only is he going to win, by ratfuckery or otherwise, he's going to jail people like Kamala and Schiff for made up nonsense... We sat through almost a decade of bullshit delays and everybody treating Trump like a king, but he's going to have his sycophants lay the hammer down immediately on his opponents...
I really really really really hope I get proven wrong...