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American Indian Genocide(s)

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it is taught in American schools.
did you just learn about the trail of tears?
- That's Canadian, the US doesn't refer to indigenous Americans as "First Nations". Native American is still the academic go-to south of the border.
  
  looks like an older Canadian textbook, not US.
  trail of tears is a centerpiece in any section on native American history in US schools.
  
  Lol that fails to mention that guns were aimed at them when they “agreed.”
  
  You may want to actually read the book you're using.
  
  Can you share what book you got this from?

I’m old af and I grew up in the south with most topics whitewashed but I even learned about this in school and it wasn’t sugar coated.
- Yeah, my school explicitly said the confederacy was right, should have won, and slavery wasn't as bad as people say, and they still covered the trail of tears accurately.

This is currently taught in US schools. The image is ragebait.
- either that or made by someone who didnt pay attention in class
  
  I always wonder in these topics whether it's a bad school, a bad student, or just bullshit, because they're all equally viable options.
- You can say that, but there are thousands of schools.
- Eventually this will get used in Florida to make sure we worship Christopher Columbus and don't make white kids feel bad about what their great great great great grandparents did. Because somehow we can't both acknowledge the bad and not have ancestral guilt. Oh maybe it makes white kids feel guilty because their parents are still teaching them they are better than people different from them. I think they should feel guilty.

Yeah Im with others on this. We were taught this and all the gory details. Same with slavery. We were not sheltered from the reality of any of it.
Just to give you some clarity, in 9th grade our teacher told us a historical account in which a slaveowner punished his slave by literally shitting in his mouth and sewing it shut.
We were made to understand the brutality of slavery.

So clearly you aren't an American. If you were American you would know about the Trail of Tears. It's one of the landmark, pivotal chapters in American history that is actually taught: the people who were living here first were brutally repressed and removed from their own land and moved to parts of the country no one wanted, regardless of where the native people were from. So the folks who grew up around swamps on the Florida peninsula were moved to the dry, dusty wastes of Oklahoma. This is all stuff Americans learn.
So why are you posting this? You're just a dumb fucking troll. Go fight and be a sunflower like the rest of your ilk.
- As what a city man might call a redneck.... Even my hodunk school taught this.
- This was not taught to me in America in good schools in the 80s and 90s. I think it's just a meme for older people and boomers.

I went to highschool in Utah in the 90s and it was covered pretty well... No glossing over or anything, tho I don't remember it being in any text book, I just remembered it from regular lecture time in US history class

I learned about it in school in Texas, with all the deaths. You trippin. Go back to hexbear

Yeah, no. We covered this in elementary school, along with Japanese internment. I grew up in a small town of almost exclusively white people, too.
- A town with good schools and recently, no doubt. Congrats.
  
  Be as sarcastic as you like, but I'm grateful for my education. We thoroughly covered these types of topics from elementary through high school. These, and many other topics, gave me a small window into other cultures that left me wanting to learn more. It gave me an open minded curiosity about people who were different from me, even though the area was about as homogeneous as it gets. It made me excited for opportunities to go out in new communities and talk to people from different backgrounds.
  I find now that I'm older that this type of genuine curiosity about other people pays off in a number of ways. I'm sorry that you don't seem to have had a similar experience.

In Canada, we devote a lot of time discussing how Europe settled the Americas and what happened to the Natives. There are daily announcements from certain school boards acknowledging that we reside on land previously belonging to a certain First Nations group. We still have a way to go in terms of the treatment of our first Nations groups, but it's become very common knowledge how horrible European settlers were to them.

It’s taught in German schools.
- Taught in American schools too.
- It wasn't taught in my UK primary school. I didn't take GCSE history, so I don't know if it was taught in secondary school. Probably not, from what I've heard from other people the curriculum tends to be pretty Eurocentric.
  
  Settlement of the new world by European migrants and colonialism are the overarching themes.
- And I bet it's because of how important the American genocides were to the concept of Lebensraum.
  
  No it's because we are taught world history, not just that which relates to our own country.

We're just going to downvote you for this ok. It happens.

Tulsa massacre is a better example of something glossed over in school.
- When my wife and I saw Watchmen the series, my wife was blown away when I told her that really happened. Whites literally told blacks to go away and form their own town, so they did and prospered, so the whites came and murdered the prosperous black community, and nobody was punished for any of this.
- Literally not even mentioned in school back in the 80s.
  So many events like this, shout out to Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States.

Wikipedia places the death count at three times the number shown in this 'meme' at the low end, 4x at the high end. Also what a bizarre bit of phrasing, it's literally called "The Trail of Tears" calling it evil is really gliding the lily.

Reminds me of a girl I knew posting on FB, "How come they don't have changing stations in men's rooms, huh?!"
LOL my god she got roasted. One guy was like, "You know $Brand you see in the bathroom? They in our bathrooms too and the company is headquartered in Tulsa. Where you're from."
And yes, The Trail of Tears was covered in OK classrooms, in the 80s.

I did learn about the Native American genocide in school.
Are there schools where this isn’t taught?
- I was taught it in New York, seems odd to omit it from American history. Wouldn't surprise me if other states didn't. Education is super politicized here.
  
  It’s not necessarily a topic that comes up every day, but I can’t think of a single time I’ve ever met a person who didn’t know about it. It’s never happened that someone has said “Wait what? What are you talking about?” when the genocide comes up.
- NY, I definitely was taught this.
- It took me an embarrassing long time to realize every single dipshit on this website that criticizes me “from the left”, is fully just a liberal. Posted up inside of a Democratic enclave in the US, who genuinely does not understand that their experience as an American might be somewhat unusual, or at least not an experience of the majority.
  Look beyond your own experiences, and learn something. You twit
  
  You remind me of my garage door, slightly unhinged.
  
  Go back to hexbear
  
  Did you have something to say about my comment? If so, what is it?
  I’m an Uber driver. I spend all day every day having interesting conversations with strangers. How does that compare to the strategies you’ve employed to “look beyond your own experiences”?

It took liberals less than half-a-year to get on board with genocide. It's no surprise to me that they don't want to be reminded of the ones closer to home, either.

No, we're a post racial society you see uwu. And no we won't give the land back, we didn't steal it, our racist ancestors did, and we're not racist.

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