Shapeshifter “E”

Wait until he notices the C's in “Pacific Ocean”.
- I never did understand how an ocean can contain multiple seas.
  
  Did you recently become a father? Because that was one of the better dad jokes.
  
  That's why I prefer the Dead Sea.
  
  In terms of geography, seas are smaller than oceans and are usually located where the land and ocean meet. Typically, seas are partially enclosed by land. Seas are found on the margins of the ocean and are partially enclosed by land.
- Give me more of these!

It's the same in German: /mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs/
Despite what other commentators say who are evil and eager to spread lies about the German language
- However, in Spanish, which is the name's language of origin despite being a German car, they're the same. All e as in red. Mercedes.
  
  True, it's a common female name, or was idk. Iirc the car is named after the daughter of the inventor. The German pronunciation is the butchered version of the Spanish first name so I'm on no moral high ground
  
  Phonetical consistency...
  Nunca lo entenderías...
- Märzehdis
- E is super flexible in German
  e, ae, oe, ue, eu, ie, ei, ee all make distinct consistent sounds
- On a phonetic level, some specialist will be able to discern the different E-sounds, but they're still very similar. It's definitely not like the English pronunciation where it's completely different sounds.
  
  It's basically the three E sounds we have in German (short, long and "unstressed") but I see that to the untrained ear, this isn't obvious
- The difference is so narrow that I wouldn't notice any difference apart from the length, the first and last e are very slightly shorter than the middle e. And of course you have the usual going-down-with-your-voice-at-the-end-of-the-word
  
  Yes, we often call them "long" and "short" E but the short E is actually halfway to A. It's a different vowel even though it's written the same. The last E is the vowel we often have in unstressed syllables like gekommen, same in English upon, about. We write it as E but it's basically the most relaxed vowel possible.
  Look at this vowel chart to see and hear the differences.

not true in German, there all Es sound exactly the same
- When I, as a German speaker, pronounce Mercedes, every e is slightly different.
- Same in Spanish
  
  Same in Czech
- The first E in Mercedes sounds slightly different from the other two in German, mostly because the rhotic sound [r] modifies the tongue placement for the preceding E, forcing you to say it as either an open-mid front unrounded vowel [ɛ], or a mid near-front unrounded [ɛ̽]. The [r] prevents the vowel from being a Close-mid front unrounded vowel [e] like the 2nd and 3rd occurrences of E.
  Or more simply, the first e sounds more like "bed" while the second and third sound more like "may", assuming you're reading this with a standard American dialect.
- Not quite. The middle e is longer than the other two.

Me as a kid, having just learned english, listening to Janis Joplin: "What the fuck is a mercy dispense!?"
- When you pray for the lord to have mercy, they have to dispense it somehow. That part made sense to me as a kid.
  However why would God have to buy one? And from whom? Who manufactures these mercy dispensers for God? Why wouldn't God just make them into existence?
  When I learned that it was Mercedes Benz I came to understand that even God needs to abide by trademark law.

Not in French they aren't.
- Same in Poland.
- In French they can be. In France, no because they don't have a large repertoire of sounds. But in Quebec, all 3 E sounds different.
- Oiseaux.
  Edit: the joke is that no vowel in oiseaux is pronounced the right way.
  
  Mec je parle de Mercedes. 🙄

But only in English. In the original German, all three e's are actually the same.
- Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland
- The original is Spanish, and the Es are pronounced the same
- Häh wie sprichst du das denn aus? Offensichtlich überhaupt nicht /mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs/ wie alle anderen? In Spanisch sind sie gleich, in Deutsch alle unterschiedlich, genau wie in Englisch.
  
  Wenn du den spanischen Frauennamen meinst, dann sind das verschiedene Vokale, aber der Name der Automarke ist so voll eingedeutscht, der einzige Unterschied ist vielleicht noch, dass das mittlere e ein bisschen länger ist.

What the hell, it's originally Spanish where all the Es sound the same, then it got popularized by a German brand, where all the Es sound the same, how did it become Merceydees in English?

Merce deez nuts
- Got'em!

Not if you pronounce it the way Germans do

If you add Benz you get a 4th E sound

mercedeez nuts lmao gottem

Abraham is another

Murr-say-deez!
- I’m fighting an urge right now…
  
  Almonds?

https://de.howtopronounce.com/german/mercedes-benz

In Spanish the e's are pronounced the same way, and the same applies for German! It's only in English that the e's are all pronounced differently! English is such a weird language, I love it but it's things like this which are hilarious to me.