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Even More Cartoon Network Shows Have Suddenly Left Max

gizmodo.com Even More Cartoon Network Shows Have Suddenly Left Max

Steven Universe, Regular Show, and more were found absent from Max following updates to the streamer's library today.

Today several users reported that a handful of significant Cartoon Network shows—including Ben 10, Steven Universe, Regular Show, the 2016 Powerpuff Girls revival, Amazing World of Gumball, We Bare Bears, and Chowder—were suddenly no longer streaming on Max with the turn of the month, with no prior announcement of their impending removal.

Just removing Steven Universe alone seems insane to me. I'm not into it, but it has a massive fan base.

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From my understanding, Max has to pay every time the show is viewed. So there's a calculation they have, how many subscribers will they lose by removing it?
For reference, they removed Westworld.
- It's too bad they couldn't pay a certain amount in one lump sum to produce a limited number of, say, small physical discs that play video for people to buy more often.
- They removed Westworld? So they're removing their own IP that they own?
  
  The last season of Westworld was so interesting and then it was canceled. （︶︿︶）
- But... wouldn't that "take up" the views of other shows?
  In other words, the consumer has X amount of time for HBO Max, so they'd either be paying for more views on another show or a potential lost subscriber who can't find anything to watch, right?
  And, with all due respect, there's no way cartoons are more expensive-per-view than other shows.
  
  Ideally they would subscribe and then watch a different service. Or maybe a different cartoon is cheaper per view. Or maybe it's a retroactive contract negotiation tactic. Basically negotiate or you won't get any residuals.
- Max pays who? Warmer Bros owns both Max and Cartoon Network. Are they legit paying themselves, that's so stupid it must be true.
  
  I think it's the people who worked on the show, like the actors.
  
  I mean, in a large company, that is often how things are done.
  Departments have their own budgets and pay each other to work on various projects.

you know where shows and movies never get deleted from? my home server 🏴‍☠️
- But your home server's drive can malfunction and then you're stuck. Unless you make regular backups I guess.
  
  RAID1 is cheap. It's not a fool proof solution but has saved my Plex library a couple times over the years.
  
  I do have a backup! I just use 4 HDD in raid 1, two separate data pools. so far works great, I'd love to upgrade them from 8tb to 16th one day but for my needs I'm ok for now

Just recently I finally convinced my wife to watch Venture Bros. I watched it on Max a couple years ago and enjoyed it, but I hadn't gotten the chance to watch the movie. So I was hoping we could watch the series together and finish off with the movie.
The movie is on Max, but the show is not anymore. The first 3 seasons are on Netflix. Seasons 4-7... They don't seem to be available anywhere. Well, I think Adult Swim's website might have it but their website sucks for binging shows even on a desktop, and either worse or literally not possible to use on other devices. I could "buy" them digitally on Amazon. Instead I just bought the DVD collection and added it to my Jellyfin server.
It used to be that a show had to be really special for me to shell out money and dedicate digital and physical storage space for me to buy a physical copy. But more and more I find myself buying the DVD's and Blu-Rays even for shows like Venture Bros that I like, but may not love. Streaming just keeps getting worse.
- It does. Ownership really does beat everything, just like cash will always be king
- Yesssss… “bought” a “dvd”….
- That show is fantastic! I wish they fleshed out the ending a bit more instead of a movie. If they had one more season to give it a proper ending would be chef's kiss. Still one of the best Western animations ever made.

I’m fairly certain that Max despises their fan base.
- Pretty much every mega corp, except Costco, is a mega douche.
  
  Welcome to Costco, I love you! If you raise the price of the fucking hotdog I will kill you! Figure it out.

Max is notoriously capricious. If I remember correctly, they have a terrible reputation with animation on their platform.
In a sense I'm surprised these cartoons remained on there as long as they did.

Reminds me of WhatCulture's video yesterday on 10 great shows that you cannot stream anywhere:
https://youtu.be/BHb511kO6VA
There are several HBO Max cartoons on there.
Time to sail the seas to preserve artwork.
- You are the first recommendation for What Culture in the wild. I find their stuff a bit WhatMojo clickbait for my liking.
  
  Slightly less click baity than WatchMojo. I enjoy their presenters and I get a rundown of lesser known movies. I have watched a few WatchMojo videos and the presenters seem a bit stale.

🏴‍☠️, come get your 🏴‍☠️!!!
- And these clowns wonder why people pirate shit. There’s a subscription for everything now and they still limit what content you can watch.

It’s not a cartoon but I still don’t understand why I can’t watch episodes of Tales From the Crypt on Max. It was an HBO show.
- The World According to Jeff Goldblum was a show made by and for Disney+. They deleted it for tax purposes. There is no legal way to watch the show now. Completely gone.
  
  Same with The Mysterious Benedict Society. I did find a site that would sell it to me on a disc, but once I received it, it became clear to me they didn't actually have a license to do so and just sold me a bootleg. Oh well. I dunno why Disney just didn't want my money in the first place.
- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YH4C34Z
  
  That’s dope. Thanks!

If they have old shows you like they can't sell you new shows.
It's all artificial scarcity, just ask the millions of people pirating content.

When buying isn't owning...
- Again the same story... Digitization has removed the so called actual ownership

I must be old. Getting high and watching Power Puff Girls was a lot of fun when it was new. But everyone is talking about Steven Universe, and I have no idea what that is.
- It’s Tumblr as a show
  
  Oh yeah, I'm old. No idea what that would even look like.
  Now if you'll excuse me, I have to groan loudly as I get up from my chair.
- You could try watching it...
  For what it's worth, I like it, and I'm kinda old.

Ahoy, me mateys!

They are all on Hulu
- They’re also all freeeeeee!

What? Nooooooooo! SU is one of my comfort shows.

"io9 has reached out to Max for comment and clarification on the removal, and whether or not the departures were intentional updates to Max’s catalogue or if, like the recent situation with Over the Garden Wall on Hulu, an oversight that will be corrected."
Artwork doesn't re-Photoshop itself accidentally. This was all intentional.

As a long-time fan of CN and AS, this always happens. Their stuff always gets pushed/ split between platforms like crazy. It's a lot more common now, but they've always had that problem. I love their content, but damn does it make me want to sail the seas.

Regular show is still (or again?) available on HBO Max in the Netherlands for me, so maybe an American thing?
- Idk about Max specifically, but I've definitely noticed that on platforms like Netflix, availability of shows depends on what country you're in. Looks like it might be time to break out the VPNs.

Oh no! Not Steven Universe! Anyway...
(Goes back to watching SU on my Plex server)

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