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'This chills me': Fascism experts horrified by Trump’s call for 'really violent day' of policing

www.alternet.org 'This chills me': Fascism experts horrified by Trump’s call for 'really violent day' of policing

2024 GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump openly advocated police brutality when, during a campaign speech in Erie, Pennsylvania on Sunday, September 29, he called for "one really violent day" of policing. This "extraordinarily rough" approach, Trump promised, would dramatically reduce crime in maj...

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how is this not on the front page of every news source?!
- Because Trump is firehosing. There's too much bullshit and fascism, and it would consume any media outlet that reports on it, making the news media appear to be biased.
  Look at the complaints from the debate, "Oh wahh, they fact-checked me but didn't fact-check Harris!" and now CBS is saying they won't fact-check the VP debate. They keep doing it because it works.
  Trump is floundering. His poll numbers aren't looking great, and his VP keeps fucking up campaign events, people are leaving his rallys on camera behind him, so Trump is just going to shout whatever bombastic bullshit comes to mind in the hopes that it will drown out the other stories. And it fucking works.
  
  ... people are leaving his rallys on camera behind him, ...
  Of note, those people who sit right behind the speaker and get to be on camera - those people are specifically selected to be there.
  Even the people who have been chosen to be Trump's backdrop are leaving early.
  
  His poll numbers aren’t looking great,
  They're not looking anywhere near as bad as they should. 44% for Trump and 48% for Harris doesn't mean much when the states' election infrastructure has been systematically compromised by Republicans and the election all depends on a few swing states. There's still a good chance of Trump being the next President.
  
  “Oh wahh, they fact-checked me but didn’t fact-check Harris!” and now CBS is saying they won’t fact-check the VP debate.
  And if there weren't already enough examples that our media are complicit in this clownshow, this puts it over the top for sure.
  
  Wouldn't say it totally works. Yeah some people vote for him but he's literally only losing ground, Trump hasn't actually made any political gain since his initial election, maybe Jan 6th and maybe getting shot at.
  But other than that, he really only loses support at least from what I see in my swing state.
- Like so much Trump says and does, it's Republicans demanding a state of affairs that already exists, but that we're socially ashamed of.
  Ask the guy in the NYC subway who caught a bullet for being adjacent to a turnstile jumper if we have violent policing. Ask George Floyd. Ask Sandra Bland. Ask Rodney King.
  It already exists. We already functionally endorse it. We already put these acts is brutality on the front page.
  We just don't feel good when we see it. That's what Trump wants to change. He wants us to view domestic police brutality like Israelis treat genocide in Gaza and Lebanon. He wants us to clap.
  
  I've got a buddy who had the shit beaten out of him by Austin PD back in the '90s. He's A REALLY big white guy and the police cited his size as the reason they felt threatened by him.
  He fortunately won his lawsuit when he was able to provide evidence that the police beat him up because it seemed like a fun challenge to take down someone so large.
  Trump's call for violence is one that cops nationwide will gladly answer
- So what if it were on the first page? Do you think that republicans who know how to read would care?
  
  It was the Republican who knows how to Read's idea in the first place!
- Because they want Trump to win.

(Reichs)Kristallnacht? Wtf...
- This is very insightful. Ty for the link.
  
  I'm from Germany, where this shameful history is part of our past. But even today, unfortunately, and even in my home country, there are resurgent forces that want exactly that once more: Hatred against everything that seems foreign to them. Don't let that happen anywhere in the world. Let history speak for itself and let us be wiser this time: never again this inhumanity, never again racism against whomever it may be directed at.
- I was thinking night of long knives, considering who Trump says is out to get him.

Trump's running the 1s platform.
1 vote and you won't need to vote anymore.
1 hour they'll fix crime.
1 day with dictatorship and Trump will fix the rest.
This is a completely normal thing to campaign on and not at all concerning.

Trump told the crowd, "One rough hour, and I mean real rough, the word will get out, and it will end immediately. End immediately. You know, it'll end immediately."
Trump continues to think it all works on fear and "respect".
On X, formerly Twitter, Ben-Ghiat posted, "I study dictators and this chills me. Given all his comments in the past about executing people & shooting looters and his admiration for leaders specialized in mass repression, it's not hard to imagine what 'one really violent day' would mean."

Ok so can we start with a really rough day of policing election fraud, inciting insurrection, business fraud, not paying suppliers, sexual assault, stealing classified government documents, and shitting your pants in public. Then maybe the word will get out and we won't have to go further.
... Ok maybe not the last one. That's just unfair.

If he allows this then the other 364 days of the year will turn into open season on cops. Gangs will be out for vengeance, and will not let it slide.
Not to mention that virtually every gun owner out there will prepare for such a day. You’ll end up with countless firefights between a relatively small number of cops and a lot of heavily armed groups with nothing to lose. Unless the orange Cheeto has some way of magically confiscating all firearms ahead of this then I think it’s going to be very difficult to convince the cops to do this.
- I even bet to some extent if all the gangs knew this was going to happen, they'd work together to survive the day while weakening the police as much as possible.
- This is not a movie. Gangs will fold like they always do when confronted with superior firepower.

Trump is a cunt and a removed and a little baby-handed pussy who nobody would take seriously even if his pudgy squad of mooks was murdering their family right in front of them.
No matter how much he dials it up he's still weak.
Vote.

Donald Trump is like the Biff Tannen of the future. You know the one - where Hill Valley is in tatters and he's abusing women in a penthouse somewhere
- Theyre_the_same_picture.jpg
  Yes, Tannen is trump.

So, a night of the long knifes?
- Nov 4 is Kristallnacht.
- He didn't mention anything about the Log cabin Republicans or purifying his own party so I am guessing that's gunna be a future suggestion once he's in power. Right now he still needs their support.

If you mother fuckers are not at absolute zero by now.

What was the full quote? I expect it to be complete shit but he gets partially quoted out of context enough I've learned not to trust headlines quoting just a phrase. He vomits legitimately terrible things often enough we shouldn't need to exaggerate or manufacture bad quotes. I want to read this one.
- Watch it. It's really there. Starts shortly after ~~44:34~~ (39:00) on the timestamp. That should be enough context.
  I searched for "One Rough Hour" in the transcript to find the section.
  https://www.c-span.org/video/?538747-1/president-trump-campaigns-erie-pennsylvania
  *edit: A Clip that I found the quote directly from: https://x.com/Acyn/status/1840483582433009711
  *edit 2: I hate this speech. I hate C-Span's Text Links to Video Anchors. They're horrible. Another point at 39:00 exactly he says "See we have to let the police do their job, and if they have to be extraordinarily rough...
  <Crowd Applause>
  " *edit 3: At 41:00: "One Rough Hour.."

Kristallnacht.
MAGA are Nazis.
- Lugenpresse!
  I mean, fake news!

Ok, then, let's adopt their own methods. Ban the GOP and if MAGA people scream, go full Tienanmen on their asses.

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