What do you block people for?
What do you block people for?
Do you have a criteria for what qualifies as block-worthy offence or are you just doing it when you feel like it?
Bonus question: how long is your block list?
What do you block people for?
Do you have a criteria for what qualifies as block-worthy offence or are you just doing it when you feel like it?
Bonus question: how long is your block list?
My blocklist is 30~40 users long. [For reference, my blocklist in Reddit reached 400 or so.]
To keep it short, I typically block people who, egregious or consistently:
Note that "egregious or consistently" are key words here. Like, I'm not going out of my way to block someone out of a brainfart; this is not some sort of petty revenge, it's just removing from my sight people who I believe to not contribute with my overall Lemmy experience. I also don't take issue when people block me, for whatever reason they might have.
I'll reply to myself to avoid editing the above. The other user made me realise that what I said about pass-aggro is unclear - since the expression is used with multiple meanings.
In this specific context, by passive aggressiveness, I mean "an utterance showing politeness as a disguise for rudeness".
I'll give you guys an example. Imagine that Alice says "I saw a potato tree today". And Bob replies to Alice one of the following:
The first three are not pass-aggro. #1 is simply dry (no attempt at politeness or rudeness); #2 is simply rude (I'm typically OK with that within limits). #3 uses irony and sarcasm in such an obvious way that it comes off as simply rude, there's no attempt to use the irony to disguise the insult. Only #4 is pass-aggro, as it calls Alice stupid and lazy in a disguised way.
I tend to block people who do this because they rub me off the wrong way - it shows a lack of dignity to be upfront that you don't see in plain rudeness.
Sealioning is a made up term by those too lazy to explain a concept and looking to antagonise others because they "cannot possibly be unaware of X fact that I care so much about".
Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.
Sealioning is the discussion equivalent of a DoS (denial of service) attack. In both, the content of the reply is irrelevant; the goal is to flood the person/machine with multiple requests, until they reach a limit and stop dropping drop the requests altogether.
And while the concept has some problems because it handles some esoteric babble called "intentions" (see: "goal"), it's still useful when you focus on the behaviour instead.
Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.
Pass-aggro is about tone, not content. You can state something like "you're sealioning" in a passive aggressive way, or a rude way, or under a bald-on record, so goes on.
[Edit reason: phrasing.]
Tankies go straight to the Shadow Realm
I block assholes. It drives me up the wall when someone is disrespectful for no reason. I also dislike those who get unnecessarily aggressive on the first message because the previous comment doesn't align with their views. I'll usually set a boundary and let people correct their attitude. After that, I'll block.
I'm also considering blocking those who make a hobby of subverting the previous comment by twisting people's words and overloading them with something the person did not mean to say, but those are trickier.
I’m also considering blocking those who make a hobby
of subverting the previous comment by twisting people’s words and overloading them with something the person did not mean to say, but those are trickier.
What do you have against hobbies? Why do you think that people should only eat, work and sleep? Do you loathe people that much??? /s
Serious now. I block this sort of people, and heavily recommend others to do the same. They're a waste of time; even if you clarify what they're distorting they'll do it again, and again. It is a bit tricky because genuine miscommunication also happens, but I typically solve that by checking the profile for consistent behaviour. The "controversial" sorting works wonders here.
Yeah, I have no patience for these types. Just dealt with one. They love to assume something weird and awful that no one would've meant and then harass you about it. I struggle not to be rude to dickheads like that.
Pretty much my criteria exactly. An off remark is fine, we all fuck up once in awhile, but consistent rude or dishonest behaviour gets them a block. It's not worth my time and emotional energy to deal with angry children. I get enough of that at work already.
What I think is funny is someone I blocked also responded to your comment.
That's why I tag people who do this. It becomes much easier to figure out who is consistently being a shithead or pushing an agenda.
those who get unnecessarily aggressive on the first message because the previous comment doesn’t align with their views
i feel like thats more of a turbo-redditor-moved-to-lemmy thing
I’ve blocked a few bots but I would only block an actual person if they’re harassing me. I’d rather downvote or report people that are saying hateful things.
Ad hominem -> block.
I have 85 people blocked. Most of them for spamming, probably. The rest for harshing my mellow by aggressively being assholes to others or just because I've realized my personal experience is more pleasant with their absence.
I don't owe my attention to anyone. I see lots of comments here about refusing to censor alternate points of view, but that's not it. I can enjoy healthy disagreement, but some folks make some agenda their entire identity and I just get tired of them constantly injecting it into every conversation.
On the other hand there've been many people I've disagreed with, engaged with, found some common ground, and continue to enjoy their presence even knowing we don't see eye to eye. Or, if they post about other things, I just ignore the rants I disagree with. It's not filtering out points of view, it's filtering out people whose presence makes Lemmy a source of stress rather than an interesting, vibrant community. That's obviously very subjective, but it's my block list and my peace of mind.
The people who constantly post about Gaza in every single thread are the worst in this regard. While yes, the genocide isn't okay and it should be discussed, there's a time and place and it doesn't need to be brought up everywhere in every discussion. Many of them are needlessly hostile when this is brought up to them and you just get labeled a genocide supporter. Sometimes I just want to scroll and read threads without hearing about children dying all the time. Gaza is their entire personality and it seems like nothing else matters to them in their lives.
Mostly just tankies, they irritate the hell outta me.
You usually block people for good audience sight-lines and sensible character interactions. It can also communicate relationships non-verbally.
And you want to avoid awkward shuffling as they enter and exit the stage.
Blocking is important in film as well, but less so due to close ups, shot reverse-shoot, and editing.
I don't block people because I think it's important to understand that people have different viewpoints and ways of articulating them
There are other reasons to block as well. Simply just being an asshole is not a viewpoint I think anyone should be paying attention to.
Right. Blocking people for no other reason than "I disagree" or "I don't like that" turns the place in to an echo chamber. Like, if that's what you want, fine, but one reason I left Reddit was to get out of the echo chamber.
Posting/commenting right wing garbage or tankie “North Korea is a great place” bullshit. Also flat earther crap. Pretty much any insane, out of touch with reality stuff.
Not tagging NSFW posts
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I've banned 1074 accounts from the instance I run, most of them for boring reasons like spam. Usually between 1 and 10 per day.
My block list has I think 7 people on it. I only block if someone makes my Lemmy experience worse any time I see something from them. Disagreement I am fine with. It's healthy to see other viewpoints, even if I don't agree. (Or if it's an issue of morality, like not viewing minorities as people, a grim reminder that people think like that. Fortunately by the time I see those, someone else has replied on the matter.) Being inflammatory and adding no value to any discussions is what gets you blocked for me. I know I have blocked several spammers, but it appears that their accounts got deleted.
I have blocked many communities though. It's mostly porn. Furry porn, not for me. Anime porn where the subjects look too young... Just don't want to see that. Porn that just isn't my taste. I would just block NSFW but there is some NSFW that isn't necessarily porn that I want to see. (Ex: frank discussions about anatomy)The stuff that isn't porn is just communities that are inflammatory echo chambers.
I browse all because I don't have many subscriptions that are active, so that is why I have so many communities blocked.
Anime porn where the subjects look too young
That seems to be all of it. The amount of pedo bullshit on this platform is staggering. I still see it even with instance and keyword filters.
I usually tag problematic users (usually those who constantly discuss in bad faith, are needlessly hostile or rude towards other users, or push dis/misinformation and propaganda) so I know who are repeat offenders with consistent bad behaviour, but I rarely block people unless it's very clear that they have no interest in participating in good faith or are so irritating that I can't deal with them anymore. A lot of problematic users still have valuable things to say and I'd rather not make my feed an echo chamber, even if those people often piss me off with their nonsense. But with some of them it sure is tempting.
I've never blocked someone. Idk why. Maybe too much action for something that doesn't make any big difference.
This isn't meant to judge over people who block others, there could be good reasons like stalking etc.
I think I’ve blocked one or two people on lemmy. Only because they like to spam posts all at once and it will fill up an entire page with just their shit.
Outside of that I’ve never blocked anyone, nor do I ever really want to block anyone.
Ah I see, that's more like a content block. Wouldn't a filter do the same, I bet they spam to the same topics?
It does actually make a difference. Especially on a small platform like Lemmy. I'd say that around 50% of the time that I see a blocked user make a comment and I log out to read it, it just confirms that blocking them was the right choice.
Man I wish we had a "flag" option as an alternative. I don't wanna block anyone because sometimes I still wanna read their comments/posts.
I just want to flag them so when I come across them again I can keep in mind that they did a no-no before.
You could even use it to categorize (this user is a spammer, this one a troll, etc.)
I don’t block people either because my mom didn’t raise no pussies.
Some people are just completely deranged, like, pathologically deranged. Those people just annoy me, and I don't want to get annoyed/angered every time I read their bullshit.
People that are needlessly hostile, and persistent on continuing their hostility get blocked. I've only needed to do that 1 or 2 times on Lemmy since I already blocked the most overtly hostile instances.
Same. I probably won’t even notice if I keep running into them making the place toxic, but if they just want to argue or be offensive and won’t stop, yeah I’ve blocked a couple
I wish that more people would report the users who behave like this, that type of behavior is against many Community rules and also many instance rules.
In my opinion I'd rather report people than block them since when they get banned they get banned for everyone. Blocking is like pretending to ban them while letting them run wild, it's a great idea for places like Nostr but it's not a great idea for Lemmy since the whole idea of fediverse is interconnection with moderation.
Blocked bots or blatant ads
If you're a massive tool or a spambot I'll block you.
My block list is pretty small and most of 'em are advertising spambots I've encountered. Only, like 3 of them are dicks.
Furries, gay porn, sports, and posts in languages I don't understand.
Pretty much this plus vegans.
There are loads of vegans that are lovely, reasonable people, but unfortunately they get shadowed by the much less reasonable outspoken ones.
I'm a "carny" btw
You block other users for mentioning sports?
Posts, not comments. But sure. I can do that.
posts in languages I don’t understand.
Me, in the meantime: "fuck, now I need to know what's written there!", followed by machine translation, followed by a bored "...ah."
(Replace the bored "...ah." with some genuine laugh when it's something from szmer.info. I don't speak Polish but people in that instance have an odd sense of humour, that I enjoy quite a bit.)
I don't block people, even if someone is being stupid I doubt I'd run into them that often again. But of course, if someone was personally harrassing me, I'd block, it just hasn't happened here.
If someone is harassing you, IMO the best approach is not blocking but contacting the admins; either of your instance or the person's instance. If you simply block the person they'll keep harassing you, but now on your back as you won't see their comments.
I block people for my own peace of mind. If they want to follow behind me and be public assholes, they are just showing everyone else who they are.
A bunch of my innocuous posts wind up with a single lonely downvote. It makes me laugh because someone out there is really fucking butthurt over something I don't even remember any more.
It's best to report people who engage in harassment, trolling, and bad behavior in-general. That way they can be identified and actioned by moderators and admins.
In the case of people on other sites it's best to message the admins of the other server directly so they may take action accordingly.
I haven't blocked anyone individually, but I found blocking hexbear and lemmygrad made an immediate vast improvement.
Is kemmygrad a problem? I've had my fair share of reasons to block hexbear
In my case, most users I've blocked were for shitty behavior. I have zero tolerance for that. If someone speaks to me or others in a way they wouldn’t dare to in real life, I block them instantly. I don’t mind disagreements or different opinions, but I won’t waste time with mean or nasty people.
The second most common reason is shallow, one-sentence replies only meant to fish for upvotes without adding value to the discussion. Jokes are fine, but if you're just echoing what's popular for applause, you’re gone. Nothing wrong with that per-se, but I’m more interested in serious conversations.
Lastly, there are petty reasons. For example, overused phrases like 'fuck around and find out' will get you blocked too.
You must've blocked 200 people by now
Saying shit that makes me think they'll be a reliably crazy contributor to conversations.
I'm happy to block people. I don't owe anybody my time or energy, if they're tedious and annoying in situation a, they probably will be in B as well.
Its the internet, I just dont care. I'm going to make my experience tolerable and if I can't I'll leave. 🤷♂️
I agree. I could block 90% of the people online and there would still be an endless feed of new content to pay attention to. I don't miss anything by blocking users that I wouldn't be missing either way.
Annoying me
If it sounds subjective as shit, that's because it is. It follows my vibe for that day.
Dickheads saying Harris isn’t left enough so they’re going to go with the orange fascist instead. Just fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
“… Harris isn’t left enough so they’re going to go with the orange fascist instead.” The level of political illiteracy needed to create that line of thought is staggering. “ My right-of-centre candidate isn’t as socialist as I’d like so I’ll vote for the candidate who is massively and dangerously further to the right of her.” What the actual fuck? It’s people like that who make me question the value of democracy.
I think it's a mix of trolling and sheer idiocy.
I don't block them because I enjoy seeing them twist themselves into knots trying to ignore how FPTP works and digging deep holes for themselves when called out. The mental gymnastics are Olympic-level.
I only block one user, because they brought their political topic to unrelated communities, and declared to continue to do so.
Just did not want to keep reading it. The person only has this one topic too, I am not missing out.
Sounds familiar
Being a bad actor.
insulting and calling what they are doing ‘a discussion’.
Telling everyone else they suck on a game that requires they participate.
Making rude demands of others in a free for all group that benefits themselves only.
Being on the internet whether it’s on a forum, dating site, YouTube or game is for entertainment. We’re each paying for this entertainment too. So if your idea and my idea do not line up for what qualifies as entertainment then we don’t need to be interacting.
Hexbear users mostly. About 20 of them harrased me because I said South Park is funny. One guy was even using an alt to insult me on all of my unrelated comments. That was my introduction to Hexbear lol.
Hey be nice to them, that's actually written in chapter 420 of Das Kapital, "Thou shalt save the world by being dicks online"
I would rather block every shitty post or comment I see. So based on post and not person.
Like…. the voting system.
I’m blocking a couple of bots but no actual people.
Though I guess I would block someone if they were being persistently trying to harass me. I can take offensive internet behavior, but not if you’re coming after me as a person.
I once blocked someone who gave me unsolicited advice on how to cook a chicken.
I like to put some soy sauce and lemon juice on mine and let them sit for a while after frying
Looks like you're bok bok blocked 😎
Only if they're very annoying and waste everyones time. And annoying bots. I've changed instances and now my blocklist is only one bot. Usually when I'm offended, it's spam. Rarely someone getting personal and yelling at people. I report that and usually the account gets suspended and I don't need to block anything. I'm not hesitant, though. If someone wastes my time more than once, I don't see any reason to continue with that. But since I only watch my subscribed communities, I'm not very exposed to those kinds of people. And I don't care at all if someone disagrees with me or has some mild behavioral issues. I'm used to that (on the internet) and wouldn't block someone just for that.
I don't. I don't block anyone.
My blocklist (outside of spam accounts) is like 5-6 people on Lemmy. But it's definitely larger on other social media sites because there are a cesspool of people doing #2 and 3.
defending posting CSAM
WTF where did you even see that
Yeah I don't really see any of this stuff on their list, not even when I used reddit. I mean yes technically I have seen it, but extremely rarely
I should clarify to say I've never been in a space where CP was being distributed.
But one of the times it was on reddit (just before the blackout, actually). One of the "recommended" posts to me was a post with a collection of pictures of random screenshots of naked babies and toddlers in bathing suits from random instagram accounts/family vloggers maybe. It had low double digit upvotes but a hundred comments, the top level ones being just...really creepy, and the replies calling them out (I'm assuming these were people who also got the post "recommended" to them, like me).
I reported it and tried to block it from my memory. It freaked me out how many people were in the post defending it as innocent post of just "kids having fun", when like...it clearly was not. I remember the OP's profile having a bunch of posts like that too, even though it was a very new account.
Anyone reading this , please don't post your babies/toddlers on social media 🙏
What is CSAM? It is an abbreviation for many things apparantly. Are you referring to 'Child sexual abuse material'? Did you encounter such things on Lemmy?
So far I luckily didn't come across anything like that but I also blocked all porn-related instances that I saw so far.
Yep, lemmy was hit with a bunch of CSAM spammers last year, and I was unfortunate enough to see a post before mods/admin were able to do something about it.
If you see the first two things you need to report them, especially the second one. Honestly when it comes to the second one not reporting it is irresponsible. That shit is highly illegal and you need to report that to instance admins so that it can be taken care of ASAP.
Spam isn't as much of a problem but you do need to report it as well, bystander effect is not an excuse either. When it comes to reporting content you need to think about it like you are the only one who ever saw it or the only one who will see it. That's how it is sometimes.
Again if you report before you block that's largely fine. I mainly say this because there are people who block without reporting, and that absolutely is not fine.
Spam.
And posting nsfw content without tags.
Here I haven't blocked anyone else than people who fall into those two categories for now.
But I'll block anyone posting illegal and vile stuff. I accept other points of view, but only if they keep it legal and, where pertinent, consensual.
I try not to block people, but if you prove to me you want nothing but to put me down with shit you made up in your head about me, that's usually what does it. Also tankie assholes or just people who want to gin up an argument where there shouldn't be one.
I have blocked a LOT of communities because I don't want my feed to be half porn and images of weirdly sexualized anime girls who appear to be children. That shit is insanely creepy and besides not enjoying it, I don't want people who glance at my phone to think I'm a pervert.
Bad faith arguments and hatred of any minority. That covers about 99% of it
I rarely block people. I find it better just to leave Lemmy communities with problematic/annoying users.. lemmy.world communities are the worst in that sense.
e.g. it might be me commenting in a non-political community about something random and then people jumping in and politicizing the thread and/or anything I wrote there. If I wanted to talk politics I'd join a politics sub, dealing with people that turn each and every post into something political gets old fast. And if the community moderators aren't interested in moderating that shit then what's the point sticking around in that community? So rather than block people I just leave those communities entirely & move on.
Being annoying (so, hexbear, mostly), and posting dicks. Tbh I'm not even mad at the dickposters, I just don't wanna see it.
I don't on Lemmy because it doesn't really do anything besides hiding their posts. On Mastodon I block people who are AI trolls, political trolls, reactionaries, and in general people who are hostile. People who are objectively horrible people, sometimes it's because I see them doing it, but other times because they lashed out directly at me. Most blocks on Mastodon are preceded by reports to server admins but I still block them because it usually takes time for people to be moderated.
it doesn’t really do anything besides hiding their posts.
That's what I need it to do. Out of my sight. Doesn't matter if they can still see my posts. I hope they write me a lot of long and nasty messages that I never see.
You don't find it limiting you can only talk to people who fit your understanding of acceptable conversation?
It's not about them seeing my posts it's their ability to interact without my knowledge since different types of harassment can be quite harmful even if you don't see it (i.e. lying, disinformation, accusations). So it's not in my best interest to block people on a platform where the block system treats the threat of these people as non-legitimate by allowing their continued interaction and replies.
I hope they write me a lot of long and nasty messages that I never see.
I sincerely hope you never meet with any of the more elaborate trolls or bad-faith actors who use more aggressive tactics like accusations or disinformation against you. This can be very harmful, even more so if you cannot see it and respond to or report it, especially reporting it. Also a lack of reporting and substituting reporting for blocking can be harmful in the long run because when users are not reported, they may never be actioned by mods or admins. Which is awful for the health of the community, maybe you think others can report for you but bystander effect is real and the people who think this way eventually compound allowing trolls and bad-faith actors to operate longer if not indefinitely, so it doesn't benefit anyone to hide them and pretend they don't exist.
It's for the church baby, blocked!
Trolling, posting disgusting and horrifying pictures in imageai community (nothing to report, just not what I'm there for), and that one person who keeps making new accounts to complain about their life and be hostile to anyone who tries to offer advice or hope.
You can block people? Well that changes things.
Heads up, Lemmy's block system is more like muting. I wouldn't really recommend it's use non-discriminately. This is because blocking simply hides users it doesn't prevent interaction on posts or comments, it doesn't deal with them if they are actually problematic users.
So if you see people being trolls, harassing others, or making bad faith arguments I highly recommend reporting them, as it can be helpful to alert admins and moderators of bad people and take care of them.
I see, so if I don't want to see a users posts and I block them, I won't see them, but everyone else will? I mean in a thread we are both contributing to?
I haven’t yet blocked anyone.
My opinions are formed by choosing the things that survive the gauntlet of disagreement, so that’s one “reason” down. And I haven’t yet encountered anyone who has any other way of hurting me with words, so I haven’t needed to block anyone.
I guess there’s mentioning poop while I’m eating, but those people tend to be family and I can’t block them.
Everyone here talking about blocking for political reasons and bad behavior while I'm over here blocking because you post unfunny memes.
I blocked several users who post far-left memes because they just sucked and weren't even funny in the slightest, they just wanted to get their point across rather than make a funny memr
Haven't blocked anyone on Lemmy. Block people on Twitter when a raging bigot is put on my For You. Block people on Tumblr when a raging bigot shows up in my notes or if I see someone post a reader insert fic.
Constant harassment or spam bots. I don't care if people disagree with my politics or something. I sometimes forget you can block people.
I block people when I see the porn posts from the same account like every one or two posts in new.
I don't why lemmy.world has so much porn
There was this French guy posting nudes to every bloody community and filters only worked intermittently.
Like nice cock bro but it got old quickly.
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