With seemingly at least one new app announced per day....

Can't really make apps for a site that doesn't have an API. They did announce recently that Kbin's API is nearly done, so soon there'll be a flood of Kbin apps as well, and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps too

and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps

Very much doubt. I'm sure many will but not all. The API isn't identical so they'd have to commit to maintaining both.
- Yeah I suppose not all of them will want to commit to supporting Kbin, but some definitely will. Honestly though, so long as it's possible to search for and subscribe to Kbin magazines from Lemmy, that's all I really care about.
- It would be great if someone created a fediverse browser native app. Log into all the platforms and add a translation layer to create a truly unique experience. Maybe it would only make sense if you could authenticate one account on all the activitypub platforms? I understand the amount of technical hurdles and maintenance to do so. I suppose I find the thought of experiencing them combined intriguing. If someone created A single app experience, in a intuitive way, I’d definitely give it a try. I can see lemmy posts on mastidon. Would be kind of cool if it could handle that and display those posts using a lemmy ui. But making it seamless.
- I don't, it's not that much more work as the basics of it won't change that much over time and the functionality will be near identical. We might not get newer features that are eventually added though.
- This is why Lemmy's tangential features, such as being able to post from Mastodon accounts, or being able to post to that video service, are also not going to happen any time soon. It's just a lot of moving pieces, for functionality that's more interesting than useful.
@Nitrate55 I can't wait to be able to use Kbin on the go, I'm really gonna have nothing be done at that point
- You can install the kbin interface as a PWA on mobile, and it works pretty well. There are some kinks for sure, but it's 100% usable and better than lemmy.
- I do most of my kbin browsing on my phone using good old firefox.
  
  It isn't perfect, but definitely works well enough until a dedicated mobile app comes out.
- Firefox and toggle to desktop site works well for me.
Kbinites unite!!

before the whole reddit clusterfuck and blackout started I created both kbin and lemmy accounts. One of those is just gathering dust

Yeah, I have a kbin account as well, but I prefer Lemmy so far, since it actually has a data API and I prefer the web interface over that of kbin (and now we have old.lemmy.world!)

I am test driving Artemis for kbin, but Hariette and her team have an uphill battle until kbin comes up with an API, so development has been slow. Not their fault, of course.
- API is almost done! Been using an internal build of the app that uses Artemis’ kbin instance with those changes. And oh god is so much better 👌
  
  So we’re nearing a point where apps for kbin will start popping up ✨
- The more options the better. For now Lemmy is good and the apps are progressing at an awesome pace, honestly didn't expect that.
- TIL about old.lemmy.world, cool!
- Wtf that's awesome! Have they open sourced that?
  
  EDIT: I found it https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym
- my instance doesn't have that thingy
Same. I just don't have a reason to use kbin. The interface is not my cup of tea and I don't like the way they've handled communities or 'mAgAzInEs'.
- Yeah, also the fact that they have... microblogging or something? I have mastodon for that.
Why you letting your lemmy account gather dust?

sunken skeleton meme: reddit

The great part of images in comments is that they can complete a meme.
- Unlimited potential
Very happy to see this was added!!

If only kbin had an API...

I was thinking of making my first attempt at an android app a kbin app because of the lack of options, but their documentation (while done really well so far) isn't fleshed out yet.

Lemmy's Documentation is very confusing to me as someone still learning to program (does it get better when you are more experienced???), but it's definitely a lot more fleshed out, so that's why I'm attempting to make just another Lemmy client looool
- Hi, currently three years into a job title that indicates I program for a living (it sounds more like I'm a manager). I do Python professionally and work on learning C. It... it kinds gets worse, if you go this far, but you're more able to handle it.

I'm about to launch a Lemmy app (by Monday, my friend yelled at me when he found out I'd been using it exclusively for weeks without putting up a beta), and kbin support is on my to-do list.

Frankly, I started using Lemmy, saw this could be the thing I've been waiting for, and decided the edges were too rough. So I made the app I always wanted for Reddit with the goal of using multiple servers, multiple accounts seamlessly. My guiding philosophy is making the client into another layer of federation,

I checked out the kbin docs and I can probably knock it out in a couple days, I've got abstraction layers to handle different versions and forks of Lemmy... Head over to !flemmy@lemmy.world and let me know this is something people want and I'll put it higher on the priority list

Artemis developer said they're gonna public source the code soonand their app supports both Lemmy and Kbin, which might help you with Kbin support. Just a suggestion, I know nothing about how code works, though.
If you add support for kbin, you'll probably going to add support for kbin's microblogging feature. If you added support for kbin's microblogging, might as well add mastodon support. Heck, might as well add pixelfed support to the mix, why not? Voila, now you have a super federated app.
- mabye peertube too
Heck yeah my guy!!
Ngl I thought the Flemish would claim Flemmy before you did.

It's not 3rd party app developers fault that kbin didn't have any stable api yet. Now that they fast track the api development, I think we can expect more 3rd party apps coming soon.

Isn't that what the RIF dev is making?
- Yes! He linked to the post over on tildes prior to shutting down RIF.
I heard Tildes discourages app development because they think apps go against the purpose of the site.
- It's on the internet, it exists to be modified. Tis the law.
  
  With that said, if I heard that, I'd either do things low profile or I'd not do it at all, because at any point the devs can just intentionally ruin whatever you use to make your app work. And low profile isn't an option, RiF's dev will always have at least a couple hundred who will try whatever they make, day 1. In their shoes, I would contact the Tildes dev directly and ask where we stand, then go forward with blessing, or leave.

Kbin should have prioritised their API rather than adding microblogging to a platform that didn’t need it.

The addition of microblogging is the main draw for me

I just want to be able to browse lemmy/kbin and mastodon with a single login

Whoever ends up doing so should set up the interface so that Lemmy posts are blue and kbin posts green, that way Lemmy users can downvote us and call us poor.

You could hack that into most lemmy clients right now, with either a manual kbin list or one automatically populated by querying the instances api directly.

I recommend forking liftoff and calling it lMessage, l for liftoff or lemmy, and message because now you can message all those pesky kbin users that they should bin their kbin and join a real instance

These things take time and once KBin releases its API, the mobile apps will start flowing.

I'm pretty excited for that and will give KBin a try once that happens.

There is nothing to do because kbin hasn't released a working api yet

I still have absolutely no idea what the difference between lemmy, kbin and mastodon is.

Lenny’s API is really approachable and Kbins is still WIP

Connect for Lemmy, connects them all

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect

How do you like connect? I've been using Jerboa but wouldn't mind checking some others apps out
- personally it is kinda superior to Jerboa, since it has a feature that is my favourite: keyword filter, but also i can browse instances that can be defederated from each other, all the fediverse in one app: could even browse hexbear.net (which is not federated with anyone yet), kbin.social, ..all on the app (and can browse instances as a guest without an account, which makes things way eaiser. unlimited block list. no bugs. it was suggested to me and i keep suggesting it for others since i didnt regret using it.
- I went from Jerboa, then Connect for a while, then Liftoff, and now I sometimes use Thunder.
  
  Liftoff is currently my most used app though.
- I've tried a bunch, including Jerboa and Connect. Thunder is by far my favourite
- I like the jerboa design but the scrolling is so awful that triggers me.

The API is going through code review right now!

Yeah I left Kbin for this purpose.

I'm still trying to hold on to kbin but lemmy is just so much more accessible. I'm super stoked for the Artemis app but it's just taking way too long
Same

Is kbin not lemmy? I can subscribe to kbin communities through my Lemmy instance though?

They both use ActivityPub, which is why the content is shared. But they're different software.

Personally can't wait for Artemis to come out by the description it sounds very much like an 3rd Party App that I would love to death

Working hard on it! Can’t wait for API to go live to make it widely available.

I wrote an API adapter layer to be able to support both kbin and lemmy in the app. Want to open source that as a package, so hopefully more apps can easily add support for both 🤞
- Absolute legend!
  
  Do you have a Patreon, Ko-Fi, or donate link?
- Thank you very much for the hard work!
Hey can I ask which features you're most drawn to? I'm really stoked that Infinity announced but I'm always down for new app experiences.
- For me it's mostly just that it supports kbin and the design because I never got to use Apollo as an android user, and it's supposed to be at least extremely similar design wise (from what I've heard)
Yes, Artemis by @hariette is looking good.
in minecraft

What even is the difference? The only thing I saw different was the UI compared to most Lemmy instances viewed through a browser.

Microblogging is the first thing that comes to mind. And subscribing or blocking entire domains.
- Being able to block users, communities, and domains is just so useful for avoiding content I am not interested in.

I don't think I'd bother with a kbin app anyway - I'm fine with the way it is already.

If the API gets released, I might look into developing a desktop/mobile app. All relatively low-level, no electron app bullshit

I have been logging into kbin every day for a month trying to delete my account, but to this day, I can still log in...

I can't wait to be unhinged on kbin as well <3 .

I don't understand the people who want apps.

I'm not looking for an argument - you do you. But I don't understand your desire to install things.

There are plenty of rough edges that apps are able to buff out that a browser cannot.

I use plenty of things in a browser, but if I'm gonna scroll something daily... I want that image viewer with tap slide zoom. I want that specific folder that the app saves shit to instead of just "downloads". etc. etc.
I don’t understand the people who don’t want apps.

I’m not looking for an argument -you do you. But I don’t understand your desire to not install things.
I have enough issues with being a chronic tab hoarder without having another website that will inevitably be open on multiple tabs over time. Is this a me problem? Probably 😁

Also for websites you use a lot, it’s nice to have a dedicated app for it. I don’t want an app for ever single website but a well built app tailored to work on the system in a seamless native way is fantastic.
- It’s a you problem, but not really a unique one. I scroll through Lenny on desktop, open everything that seems interesting in a background tab and half the time I never even switch to them. With Memmy, I either look into a post right away or keep scrolling. I’ve just gotten used to that way of browsing because most sites don’t take you back to where you were before but generate new random content. Reddit is especially bad at this. Apps do a pretty good job at going back to exactly where you were before without reloading the site.
Having a dedicated app is just more convenient in most cases. And apps generally offer more features and QoL improvements compared to a site. After using memmy for about a month I can’t use the official site, especially on mobile.
kbin user cope

(/s)
I feel the exact way but in reverse lmao. Who be using websites these days 🤣

I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.

The clunky interface, the relative differences from reddit, the confusing organization, the less than ideal splitting between blog/thread/magazine that makes navigating it have an extra learning curve, the lack of any apps that aren't just a pwa that has the same flaws as the site, the fact that there's really only one server for kbin that's used, the list goes on.

And I like kbin, I hope it thrives and becomes popular enough that nobody ever has to consider a corporate run site again because there's multiple federated options.

But, just being real, lemmy is simpler and easier to use, and it's closer to the way reddit worked. Kbin is trying to be more than a link aggregator and forum. That's great! If that's what you're looking for, it's even better. But most of the r/efugees were and are looking for something familiar and comfortable. With kbin not having an API, app developers weren't jumping into it (other than hariette, and she's kick ass) so the r/efugees that were at least partially leaving reddit because of the attack on apps had no devs busting their ass to get out good ones.

There's no apps for kbin that are open use. PWAs are meh to begin with, but at least the lemmy UI via PWA matches reddit close enough that the learning curve is trivial. The kbin ui has to be navigated with the split functions in mind, and that's not fun when what you're really wanting is to keep doing what you were doing before spez fucked things up.

And that's what it comes down to. The surge of new users to the fediverse aren't here because of the virtues of the services. They're/we're here because reddit isn't acceptable now. Lemmy is just closer to what we had

I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.

- Did they delete the other comment or is the bug not on their end? Cause I only see one currently.
- I mean that’s the first time that has happened to me and I’m fairly sure that one was actually on me swiping back.
  
  Like Lemmy’s bugs have been pretty freaking serious. Biggest kbin one since I’ve gotten here was it logged you out too soon, and that wasn’t even a bug someone had just pushed a feature that got rolled back.
Lemmy -> Kbin federation wasn't (isn't?) working that great, and considering 90% of content on KBin's front page is lemmy content anyway...

Also there's like two dozen apps for Lemmy now including several in the app stores

Plus stuff like https://old.thelemmy.club
- It wasn’t working for two days at the beginning of the migration, besides that it actually works better than lemmy to lemmy, from what I’ve noticed.
  
  Yeah, most content comes from lemmy, because that’s where most people are, it just doesn’t really make sense beyond going to where the people already are, and not actually comparing the systems.
  
  I guess that’s why y’all chose the lemming as your mascot :p