Calls for J.D. Vance to resign after he admits that he 'created' pet-eating story about immigrants
GOP vice presidential nominee shocks CNN interviewer
I still think someone explained lesbians to him and he got wildly confused.
I’m seriously considering getting an “Ohio eats pussy” patch as an Ohio lesbian
Oh no, I'm so sorry. About living in Ohio, I might.
Do it! And wear it when you go to vote!
I could almost buy that given my feelings about the mental capacity of the poster child for failing upwards, but why would he think specifically Haitian immigrants are lesbians? You know, as opposed to "liberals" or "college girls" (to quote the terrible song from that episode of Bill Nye - did you learn gay in college?) or something...
Make all the “calls” you want. For someone to voluntarily resign under these circumstances, they need to feel guilt/shame. I’m not sure Vance is capable of either. He will not resign.
Hopefully it drags down the whole trump campaign.
Weren’t the republicans just saying something to the effect of ‘the ballots can’t be changed this late, you have to stick with the nominated ticket’?
They invented “fake news”
Cool. So fucking arrest him. He's a public figure that knowingly and willingly endangered an entire population. Throw the book at his big fat eyelined face.
Why did everyone believe this obvious fake news?
because a bunch of assholes repeated it.
My pet theory is that it's a reaction to the couch fucker thing. The left made up and ran with a story, and this is them trying to do the same thing. Obvious problem being that it's racist, dangerous, and not funny, but that's the right for you.
I'm not sure there is anything illegal about making up these stories.
Edit: All these down votes are just wishful thinking. JD Vance is a piece of shit, but he hasn't done anything illegal. (That's not to say he hasn't done anything wrong, because he totally has.)
Its about time there is some accountability for spreading such falsehoods. Does Libel not apply to this, or any law? Come on, he endangered an entire group of his own constituents. They are legally here.
People need to call it what it is, as often as needed: stochastic terrorism
It's very similar to the concept of blood libel I think, just directed at a different group than that term usually refers to. Which, given what that kind of thing historically has led to, is extremely concerning coming from such a public figure.
It is extremely concerning, and it is not just this. They have been talking about mass deportations all year.
Accountability? For republicans? You must be new here.
The law doesn’t apply to them.
Unfortunately and with deep regrets, I think it'd be tough. From https://lipskylowe.com/when-are-false-accusations-of-racism-defamation/ there are four points:
False Statement about the target was stated as fact (not opinion)
Publication or communication of that statement to a third person
Fault on the part of the person making the statement amounting at least to negligence
Harm to the subject of the statement (damages)
Considering how hard he's publicly pushed the story as a true fact, I think prongs 1 and 2 have been met. Alas, I can see 3 being not reached (he checked with his constituents who claimed the story was true and a judge accepts that as sufficient due diligence).
And 4 would be the hardest - how does one prove damages (like a dollar amount) and that they were specifically caused by his comments?
It'd be hard but I thinks a case can be made by analyzing violence against the Haitian community before and after the comments. We have a date for when it was said, which can serve as our starting point for after. It might not be the easiest but its definitely within reason. On top of it all, I'm tired of this and thats by design. To so obviously be trashing and damaging these communities, but due to the law still have believable excuses. Its bullshit. We know and so do the rubes.
This fucking lie ended a conversation (that started about plumbing of all things!) between myself and my father with me screaming at him for being racist and him hanging up on me saying "Enjoy your fucking liberal life. Im hanging up now. Love you. Bye."
As a rule, I do NOT speak politics with my family because theyre HUGE MAGAts and Im the exact opposite. But my father is one who HAS to bait me. He just...its in his fucking DNA code or something. And usually I grit my teeth through it, but I couldnt this time.
Ughhhhh this pisses me off so much because I really thought that he would snort and roll his eyes at THIS lie at least. But no. He unironically believes this shit. Its fucking dangerous.
Yeah, therapists have noted a sharp upward trend of people dealing with politically driven grief. Basically, people separating from their family members due to political differences. And it’s almost universally from liberal people cutting off their Trump-crazed parents.
This, I believe 100%. I just got assigned a new therapist and have only had one session with them so far. However, I know for a fact that this is going to be a massive topic that I need to unpack with them.
It sucks because you just know all these parents will blame "the liberal media influencing the snowflake younger generation", rather than having any introspection.
I fear its going to make Boomers/Gen X even more radicalized than they already are, and double down on reforming schools to suit the Christian narrative.
Oh. I have relatives in the USA. Jewish and the older generation is sadly non-critical. Last family call ended where my uncle (strictly speaking, my mom's uncle, son of my grandma's older sister) dropped a phrase of "having to vote for someone who'll support Israel" in such a worried tone, that I fscking couldn't hold it. I mean, if my grandma wouldn't try to shut me up with her Israel worship bullshit (she has always been, ahem, simple-minded and loud, and now she's also of the age where people do not preserve a lot), could have gone better.
Sorry man. My fam and I went separate ways about a year ago due to this stuff. It's a sickness spread by a for profit entity which is the GOP. Doesn't feel good at all, but things got so ugly that the silence between us now is a welcome form of peace at least.
Im sorry you went through that, but Im glad you found peace. It sucks because I'm being pushed to consider going this exact route, so I know the pain/apprehension that went into your decision. Its a shitty place to be, and I have mad respect for you putting yourself first.
It really sucks, because I dont hate them, I hate their politics and their inability to respect boundaries, but I know theyll never see it that way. They'll see it as me breaking up the family because liberals are too sensitive or whatever.
Friend, it's really not worth it. You can cut out family members that insist on drama but otherwise you can just keep radio silence on topics that aren't mutually interesting.
People can change their minds but it isn't ever anyone outside forcing that change... significant changes always come from internal realizations.
Just enjoy your life and keep your sanity - I'm sorry you were saddled with a family deeply entrenched in the MAGA crazy.
Thank you, I appreciate it. We're pretty low contact as I live across the country, so I only really talk to him on holidays/birthdays to begin with, but this was an odd one-off.
I mostly really stay in contact at all because my brother has 2 babies, and the entire family is conservative (to the point that theyre considering home schooling the kiddos), and Im worried theyll never get ANY outside influence if my husband and I dont make an effort.
Its probably a worthless effort, because mentally I can only handle going home every year or so (and I make it as close to a 72 hr trip as possible), but I just feel like Im abandoning them completely if I cut everyone off now.
If it helps, realize that it’s his insecurity coming out. Don’t be mad, be sad. Can you imagine being an adult and stilling acting like an edgy teen.
I refuse to talk politics with my family, regardless of who they endorse. It's not worth the arguments.
Yeah, I don't even like talking politics with people I agree with. My parents are lifelong Democrats and despise Trump, but they are absolutely obsessed with him in the same way that pro wrestling fans are obsessed with the latest heel. They just can't stop talking about him and whatever his latest line of bullshit is. Whereas my only hope for sanity is to tune this shit out as much as I possibly can.
I recommend disengaging immediately whenever they start to talk about politics. Hang up the phone, leave the room, etc. Tell them you won't discuss politics with them, but other than that, don't say a single word to them on any other topic until they agree to quit doing it. Rinse and repeat.
I started just hanging up on my dad exactly like you said, we haven't spoken in over a year. The last call was him defending the sex trafficking of a 14-year-old in Marine Barracks...
This increases my gut feeling that Vance has eaten someone’s cat from about 60% to 95%.
I am 95% sure that this fucker has, at some point in his life, eaten someone’s cat.
And yet I am also 95% certain that he's never eaten pussy.
You think JD Vance is the kind of guy who would do something that brings pleasure to neither him, nor the couch?
There's a lot of Republican politicians who I doubt have ever had consensual sex.
From Jimmy Kimmel: "Usha is Hindi for 'unsatisfied woman.'"
"But the cat was damaging my beloved couch your honour"
Might have been RFK JR.
Oh no, JD Vance ate out RFK Jr?
Every accusation ...
To be fair, he caught the cat with the couch he loved
The crazy thing is: If he hadn't admitted this, there wouldn't have been calls for his resignation. The Republican party is fine with spreading harmful misinformation, but admitting to it is a no-go.
He broke kayfabe.
The Republican party needs to have plausible deniability. In the conservative playbook, it's okay to repeat things that they know for a fact are untrue, or to tell a lie of omission to further their agenda, because they can always walk it back at the point in time which they are receiving blowback by saying they didn't know it wasn't true or that they didn't have all the facts at hand. Assuming that the lie doesn't manifest itself into truth or that there are enough people who care enough about the real truth to bother fact checking it at all to the point where it would necessarily generate any kind of controversy.
This was Vance saying the quiet part out loud, probably by accident, and his pivot was not convincing at all.
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” said Vance, a U.S. Senator representing Ohio.
Ironically, Vance’s attempt to point out imagined “suffering” has led to actual suffering by his own constituents.
Wow. What a horrible piece of shit. I knew he was ‘bad news’. But like. God damn. You’re a fucking moron. A perfect Trump pick for VP.
If my eyes rolled back any further I’d go blind.
Yeah but smack in the middle of the range of expected traitorous republican behaviors.
It's so disheartening that the polls are basically tied. However much they can be trusted
Honestly I really really doubt that.
He is such a loser, no wonder Trump picked him as VP. They smell their own.
Or, and I know it's going to sound like a conspiracy theory, Trump picked JD because JD is so weird, and he knew that JD would tank. So when Trump drops JD it'll give him a boost, like the one the democrats got when Biden dropped out. Trump has repeatedly kept lowering people's expectations, to the point that if he somehow managed to put the round peg in the round hole, it would be a success. So imagine the boost Trump would get, for making the obvious decision to drop JD.
But that plan requires that Trump is able to play the long game, and stay quiet about it. Two things we know isn't plausible.
They have so many people stacked at the polls and swing states that they're not worried about actually winning by performance.
There were theories that when RFK jr flipped they wanted him at the VP candidate hard, but they were already stuck with Vance. Conspiracy theory time...they're purposely tanking the already wildly unpopular Vance so it wouldn't seem like such a fickle move.
But it sounds like he can't drop JD. It is not an option and i am sure someone would have told him this, if it was his plan
Trump is 100% going to blame this loser when he fucks the election up, and the following insurrection attempt.
There should be calls to toss him into a volcano and they should be getting serious traction
Careful. From all the B movies I’ve watched, I can tell that volcanoes have standards.
That's superstitious, don't be silly... Anyway let's organize a Repub conference there as a send off, it is the right thing to do.
“In the wake of JD Vance admitting he ‘created’ the pet-eating story, and as a result of the very real threats the communities and people he has targeted are now under … I am calling on him to RESIGN as our Senator,” Weinstein posted on Twitter/X.
Let's hope he remains on the ticket for VP, though. I'd hate for the orange bad to backfill him with someone more likable (by their standards) and have an uptick.
It would be funny to see all the campaign signs and stickers replaced.
That orange weirdo would probably choose Loomer.
It's a "coup" and "illegal" to replace him on the ballot. People are saying.
I feel like they kinda have to stick with Vance on the ticket at this point. Past the deadline, ballots are already being printed and such.
Though maybe that's just for the top of the ticket, I don't know.
Also it would require Trump to admit he made a mistake, so it seems unlikely he'll be off the ticket.
Vance isn't going anywhere. Admitting to mistakes is not in their playbook.
Twitter/x sounds like the twitter red light url.
That requires three. With one, it sounds like the bigotry URL.
Please don't let him resign. We need him to keep making the trump campaign look even worse.
The people calling for it want him to resign as I'mSenator. It's not really resigning if they just pick a new VP nominee
The Trumpublican voters knew it was a lie from the beginning, they don’t care about truth. Vance supplied them with phony story to justify racism and create outrage and they were happy to play along.
It’s a sick game and when people rightly pointed out what a farce the whole thing was they were simply dismissed by the magachuds as “sheeple” and “libtards”.
There is no reasoning with these brain rotted cultists
Their candidates are quite literally the worst possible choices and they LOVE THEM
They're Know-Nothings, in every sense of the word.
Here's the thing, Vance didn't make up the story, a Nazi did. I'm guessing Vance is now claiming responsibility because lying about the origin is better than the truth, that he's just repeating lies from self avowed Nazis.
He should resign. He is a spineless piece of trash and will do and say anything for power.
Thats probably why Trump picked him.
Trump picked him because he said he wouldn't have certified the election in 2020.
No one who voted or will vote for him gives a shit anyway though, so the only way he's going to go is if R does the right thing which, we know how that will play out.
Calls for J.D. Vance to resign
Lmfao, good luck with that, guy is on the power trip of his life, and the only way to be rid of someone like him is by force.
Or if Walgreens is out of mascara
I expect he's going to say he didn't mean that he fabricated the story, but instead meant that he "created the story" in the sense of bringing it to the media's attention
He did say exactly that in the interview when called out. It's in the twitter thread linked.
Towards the end.
Have we ever had a presidential candidate swap, and then a VP swap in the same election year before?
Can he be swapped? I thought the reason Biden got swapped is because he wasn't locked in yet, but now the candidates are locked in.
That's a good question. Unfortunately we're living in interesting times.
I'm not so sure that he can be. He was nominated by Trump, and the party as a whole voted on both Trump and Vance, together. Would they need a new convention in order to select a new VP? I don't know. I don't think that anything like that has ever happened before, so it would be uncharted territory. Much like if the VP died in office.
Ballots are already getting printed and early voting will start soon.
He should definitely resign from the Senate. I'm not sure if he's legally allowed to back out of the VP nomination.
He can't be forced to serve but it may be too late to get his name off of ballots. I'm pretty sure the rules for that vary by state, though. We've already then through this once this year with RFK.
RFK incoming!
You mean the guy who has probably actually eaten someone’s cat? Lord knows he’s eaten everything else.
I've been saying for a while now the easiest way for trump to regain the upper hand is to kill JD Vance. I hope he doesn't do it, but he killed a border security bill because he thought he'd be able to run on it. (Its a wasteful, racist bill, but for the people who accept the corporate media framing on immigration, it would have eased their concerns)
Do you mean kill literally or metaphorically?
He didn't create it, but he should resign anyway because he is a sack of shit.
I'll never quit! First attempt.... I'll never leave his side! Second attempt.... Oh shit this is real! Fuck that! Yeah Haitians are nice people I shouldn't have lied! I'm sorry. I'm subjugating, quitting, resigning, whatever you want!
Oh that's it, just the two? Yeah I'm never leaving his side! Even if Haitians eat all my cats.
This is FAKE NEWS even though He said it! And if it's true WHO CARES Lying ISNT against the Bible!
Sadly too real.
Take angry orange with him
I would rather have this cat turd in jail for trying to get innocent people killed.
October 1st is gonna be so much fun.
Por que?
VP debate
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