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Jeremy Corbyn addresses meeting on formation of new leftwing party

www.theguardian.com Jeremy Corbyn addresses meeting on formation of new leftwing party

Exclusive: Ex-Labour leader gives speech at event where organisers say they aim to start party named Collective

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If Britain had proportional representation, they’d have a chance of being the leftmost party in left-of-centre coalitions alongside Labour and the Green Party (sort of like Die Linke in Germany or Vänsterpartiet in Sweden), or any least harrying a Labour-LibDem-Green-SNP-Plaid coalition from the left. Though under FPTP, they have a snowball’s chance in Hell, and are likely to serve as motivation for Labour to rule out electoral reform.
Ignorant American here, is that not what the Green Party is supposed to be? Is there a reason why Corbyn and the left wing labor/independent MP's shouldn't just join the Greens?
- What's being green got to do with being left wing?
  
  This is really the problem with left/right, you can be green and Tory or Labour. Green has little to do with supporting workers rights or supporting the church and monarchy.
  
  [Edit] To clarify, being against building and preferring green spaces is a green position and also a driver for NIMBYs.
  
  Tories get played as fools by their own party constantly, the little old dears in church voting Tory aren't supporting them because they keep moving more fash.
- Ignorant Canadian but I know that around here the Greens aren't necessarily seen as the left wing party, in part because their program isn't broad enough
- As a thought experiment, would supporting a workers union be left wing, even if it was for coal miners?
- Not really. While the green party is left of labour. Its green credentials are pretty poor. Nimbyism has made them choose some rather odd positions.
  
  This is an issue as it is a one issue named party. So like labour making odd non worker beneficial policies harms labour among left wing. Those nimby votes harm green reputation among green.
  
  And while the 2 Green and left are not really related. They have a freaking huge crossover on a venn diagram. So both are rejected by a large % of the left.
i'd love an actual labour but sadly until election reform it's not going to mean anything. we we need is just a left wing pact between independents, labour back benchers, ~~the snp~~ though let's face it they're going further to the right than labour these days, pc, sinn fein, and the greens.

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