[USA] Presidential Debate Mega Thread
[USA] Presidential Debate Mega Thread
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"She wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison." Again, actual quote.
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I laughed a lot at some of the absurd things he has said during this, but that claim so far has been the funniest. It’s phrased like he just ended a game of Clue but he can only communicate via conservative buzzwords.
Kamala just got a laugh out of me when she was talking about Trump inviting the Taliban to Camp David and she’s talking and then chokes on her words to look him up and down to try to find a PG-rated descriptor of him and ended up just saying “and this……… former president”.
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She absolutely said "this motherfucker" in her head and I was cracking up when that moment happened
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I totally wanted to hear her say "this fucker" like she was thinking. What she did instead was probably more powerful.
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some of the quotes out of this are more entertaining than I expected.
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Clearly a sentence from a perfectly sane man and not a rotten brain kept alive through shoddy dark magic inside a barely functioning zombie
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Trump... doesn't want Ukraine to win the war? He dodged the fucking question?
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He dodged every question and shoehorned in "the border" for all of them.
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he did have one answer to the obamacare question he had the "concepts of a plan" which is almost as stupid/funny as saying "my dog ate it"
It would have been the funniest thing in the world if Harris had latched on to that and been like "Maybe you should take another 6-10 years to golf and think about it then come back. "
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Of course he doesn't, it's a miracle he's smart enough to realize he can't say he wants a Russian victory.
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The Draft. Questions. It’s all the same. He dodges more than the auto manufacturer.
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He wants to be friends with Putin. He's gonna dodge.
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He wants to be friends with Putin.
He's scared of Putin.
Did you see the look on his face when Harris said that Putin would eat him for lunch?
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He doged the easiest question of the whole debate.
Not hard, since he dodged the others too.
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They even asked him a second time even more directly, "Yes or no: do you want Ukraine to win in the war against Russia?" And he still wouldn't just say yes or no. It's like the easiest softball question you could ask for and he whiffed.
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They even asked him a second time even more directly, "Yes or no: do you want Ukraine to win in the war against Russia?" And he still wouldn't just say yes or no
All he did was reinforce my suspicion that Putin has some pretty strong leverage on Trump.
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These hosts are absolutely awful. Every time he rambles and lies, they give Harris a new topic. Occasionally they ask a question and barely point out that he didn't answer it.
The hosts need to hold him to a debate, not let him play it like a Trump rally.
Harris is doing fantastic.
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Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.
It really deems like he has been allowed to talk for twice the time as Harris. Anyone keeping track?
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Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.
That was so irritating! On the other hand, the more he talked the more idiotic he sounded so maybe it wasn't such a bad thing.
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This is the first time we have seen moderators actually fact check Trump live. I'll take that in spite of the interruptions.
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They were meek and let him talk over them. I guess more than zero is better than nothing, but it is a pretty low bar.
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It's almost like they were prepared with researched facts based on his most commonly repeated blatant lies.
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It's really infuriating. Every time he's asked a question, and she gets a rebuttal, he just starts rebutting her rebuttal and they just let him. And half the time what he's says has nothing to do with the question that was asked. They cut Kamala off pretty much every time.
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They should have gotten this guy to moderate.
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Viktor Orbán???
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The most respectable leader in the world!
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Former President Donald Trump cited his close ties to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to counter attacks by Vice President Harris in Tuesday night's presidential debate that world leaders are “laughing” at Trump.
“Let me just say about world leaders, Viktor Orbán, one of the most respected men, they call him a strong man. He's a tough person. Smart prime minister of Hungary. They said, Why is the whole world blowing up?” Trump said.
“He said, ‘Because you need Trump back as president. They were afraid of him. China was afraid.’ And I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him. 'China was afraid of him. North Korea was afraid of him.' Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way. He said 'Russia was afraid of him,' ” he added.
Smart too, apparently.
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That's a bold move Cotton
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🤣
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Why hasn't Vice President Harris fixed everything already, she's the Vice President already so she should fix it.
So says the man that tried to get his VP hung when he dared disagree with him.
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Fuckin dummy took the bait on the rally size thing.
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His expression when she said that was GOLD
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You could see the moment he got triggered. lol
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And she laid it out so well.
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I came into the thread for exactly that.
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Now he’s about to take the bait on the former Reupbs who are voting for Harris.
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You could see part of Harris' teams strategy was to bait him with things to make him mad.
There was the statement about him losing 400 million dollars, the statement about other western leaders laughing at him, the rally size comment. Probably a few more.
If he was smarter he would have seen what they she was attempting and changed how he responded
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"I have concepts of a plan."
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i hope she can draw attention to the fact he cant answer a question without rambling through 5 unrelated topics.
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he cant answer a question
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He's now claiming that's "the weave" and it's intentional.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/07/election-trump-speeches
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Solar is the worst - by the way I'm a big fan of solar.
A totally sane person
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flawless logic
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Well yes, he's a fan of the worst things.
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I keep quoting this bit from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in the hopes that it will happen to Trump. It hasn't happened yet, but if we're lucky tonight...
his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.
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Why are you wishing death on someone?
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I used to be principled like you, but this man has the potential to cause death and destruction on a scale so unfathomably larger than one person. Would I prefer he face justice? Absolutely. But at some point "not wishing death on someone" flies in the face of the greater good of humanity
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Because he deserves it?
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showing love for vikto orban on national tv. bold move.
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It plays well with his authoritarian base, it probably won't play well with everyone else.
But to be fair, it can be compared to Hillary Clinton being proud of her friendship with Kissinger. It didn't play well for Clinton, either.
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She's baiting the crap out of him, and he keeps taking it before going off rambling. It's great.
Please America I hope the people that need to watch this, are doing so.
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Trump closing statement: "She said she's going to do lots of wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it yet? They've had 3 1/2 years to fix the border and create jobs. Why hasn't she done it? She should go down to the beautiful White House and to the Capitol and get them all together, but you won't do it, because you want to do things that Americans don't want like no fossil fuels. Germany tried and now they're back to how they used to be. But I need to ask a simple question: why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation. They're laughing at us. I know world leaders very well. They come to see me and call me and tell me. We don't know what's going on. We have wars going on in the middle east and in Ukraine and we'll have nuclear war. I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban. What these people have done to our country- the worst part is they let millions of criminals into our country. They are destroying the country. The worst president and the worst vice president in the history of our country."
Ho-lee fuck.
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According to Trump, leaders all over the world are calling and going to see Trump to laugh at the USA.
So like, which ones? Which leaders are visiting Trump to laugh at the USA? And why is he accepting them over and over? Why are world leaders wasting their time laughing at the USA with Trump? Tell us, Trump!
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Took our jerbs, eat our dergs.
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"Uh, ABC would like to clarify that no dogs were eaten"
"ATE ER DERGS!"
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"I saw it on TV!"
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I was amused when he implied that black people’s jobs have such little worth that they could be taken by illegal immigrants from insane asylums.
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The look she gave him when he said that spoke volumes.
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...I think that might be less far-fetched. After all, our black VP is competing for her next job with a guy who's a few oranges short of a basket....
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Kamala Harris eats people's dogs it's true I saw it in TV last night /s
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Hats off to anyone who can suffer this. Cheers for keeping me informed and laughing.
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Honestly, between him sounding totally unhinged and just repeating every single lie he's made already, it's not that hard to sit through. She sounds competent. He sounds like angry old man yelling at cloud.
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your missing out. this is hilarious.
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Trump on his healthcare plan: "Obamacare was lousy healthcare and always was and if we come up with something, and we are, we will replace it. I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't vote to change it. If they did, we'd have a better plan than Obamacare. I had a choice as president whether or not to let it rot and I decided to tell my top people- I had very good people- some bad ones. They don't get rid of their bad ones. I had a choice to make: do I save it and make it as good as it can be or let it rot? And I saved it and it was the right thing and it will never be great and it is too expensive. We are looking into other plans. If we can come up with a better plan, we would replace Obamacare."
Moderator: "Do you have a plan?"
Trump: "I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. If it's cheaper, I'll do it. We have options. You'll be hearing about it soon."
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"like a 4chan post came to life" -Jake Tapper, CNN
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Trump on what to do to fight climate change: "They lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month. They're building auto plants owned by China in Mexico and they think they can sell their cars in the U.S. because of these people. We'll put tarriffs on those cars so they don't enter the country because it will kill any auto worker. What they have done to business and manufacturing is horrible. Biden doesn't go after people because China paid him millions of dollars. Him and his son. Ukraine gave him money. All these countries give him money. Why is he so loyal to Ukraine? The wife of the mayor of Moscow gave him money!"
Yes, he asked why Biden is so loyal to Ukraine.
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Well... so much for muting mics between responses.
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Unfortunately, I think it's warranted with Trump's lies at this point.
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I mean, not muting is what Harris fought for... are they also leaving her unmuted?
If they're leaving her unmuted as well, hopefully it works out like she had hoped, if they're muting her and letting him ramble... what the fuck?
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Yeah, so far it feels like the second option.
But I have to admit, I'm not sure it works in his favour. He sounds nuts. More than usual. She's getting under his skin.
I also think the quick fact checking done by the anchors (very few things so far) is really making him furious.
That bit about pet eating immigrants was... Interesting.
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again biden approved nordstream2. sorry europeans apparently your governments are powerless against bidens policies for you.
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I'm not watching the thing, but that was approved in (checks) 2017, which was early in Trump's first term, so if at any point the US was going to say "let's try to apply pressure, tamping down on the risks on that thing is worth the political cost", it'd have been under Trump.
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They’ll execute the baby. lmfao
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He's been trying to convince people of that one for months now. I don't even think most Republicans buy it.
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just posted a similar one. wow. just wow.
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This is too stupid for me .... I turned if off and will just watch the highlights tomorrow
And this is supposed to be a contest for leadership of the most powerful, most developed, most modern nation in the world?
The worst part of all this is that everyone on the planet will be affected by what Americans will decide on .... and that is an absolutely scary idea.
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Harris was fantastic though
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I remember Family Guy poking fun at the presidential debates with Bush about two decades back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3d43HLyTI
I feel like things have tended to head downhill since then.
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ABC is just letting Trump ramble now.
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just to be clear. trump currently does not know who is president of the US.
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now their eating the pets
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The fact that there are any Americans who want to vote for somebody dumb enough to believe something wholeheartedly just because he saw it on TV is real rough.
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Trump when asked who should win in Ukraine: "I want the war to stop, I want to save lives. People being killed by the millions. It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake. We have to give them $250 billion because we don't ask Europe who are at a greater risk because Biden and YOU don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO and they paid up, which is why they don't like me as much as weak people. You look at what's happening. They pay lots less. They should be forced to equalized. I want to get the war settled. I know both Zelensky and Putin well and they respect me. They don't respect Biden. Why would you respect him? He hasn't called Putin in two years. This is a war that's dying to be settled. When I win, when I'm president-elect, I'll get them together. That war would have never happened. When I saw Putin after I left, because this country has gone to hell, when I saw him setting up soldiers, I thought he was going to negotiate but he wasn't because of Biden and millions are people are dead and it will be WWIII and where is Biden? We don't even know if he is a president. They threw him out of our campaign like a dog. Biden doesn't know he's alive."
Trump when asked again: "I think the war should finish. Negotiate a deal. People's lives are destroyed."
Harris finally tells him he's not running against Biden.
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Trump says more about Ukraine: "Putin would be in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost all those soldiers, but he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is now. He's got a thing that other people don't have, nuclear weapons. No one ever thinks about that. Maybe he'll use them, but he hasn't been that threatening. Nobody talks about it. They sent her to negotiate peace before the war started but it started because she is weak and stupid and she negotiated and the war started. Biden is the worst president in the history of our country. She is the worst vice president, but she is worse than Biden."
He said Harris met with Putin. She never met Putin.
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Trump literally said he'd prefer if Putin occupied Kyiv and if fewer Russians died - its absolutely fucking insane.
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Harris finally tells him he’s not running against Biden.
👍
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What the fuck is this I rebuilt the military shit he keeps spouting about I have no idea where that's coming from. Even by Trump's normal standards this is confusing for me.
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Look at how good Democrats are at hiring competent staff
Donald Trump while talking about how many shitty staffers he had to fire
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Yeah, it's like dude, you are the one that hired your administration. He is also the one that negotiated with the Taliban for a withdrawal of troops.
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oh my god. he said his statements that he lost 2020 was sarcasm on his part. I mean. I mean. oh man. this guy.
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Trump on the peaceful transfer of power and January 6th: "I told people to be peaceful and patriotic when they were rioting and no one was killed on their side, but Ashley Babbit was shot by an evil cop and the rioters were treated badly. What about the killers coming over the border? She was the border czar, but she doesn't want to be called that because she's embarrassed about it. When are they going to be prosecuted? They're coming from all over the world, not South America and crime is down all over the world. When are they going to be prosecuted? What about the people who burned down Minneapolis? What about the people who took over a large amount of Seattle!"
Moderator: "Do you regret what happened?"
Trump: "I just showed up to make a speech and I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of D.C. and I said- it wasn't a riot by me- and I said I'd like to give you the national guard and they both rejected me and her daughter has a tape saying she was responsible for what happened. It was their fault because she was responsible for security."
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Trump rebuts the sane responses by Harris on January 6th: "It was a different term and it was a term that was related to energy because they destroyed our energy business. Fox News people proved that I never praised Nazis in Charlottesville. You talk about the Capitol: Why are we allowing illegals in? Let's leave this debate right now and go down to Washington D.C. and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills. You wake up the president because he'll be asleep to go sign a bill and if they do that, the border is closed. Those people are killing many people, not January 6th."
Yes, he doesn't know that congress passes bills.
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Nice. He just can't accept any level of responsibility for anything ever. To a sane person, this is a terrible response.
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Nice. Harris: "World leaders laugh at you including military people I've talked to who work with you." (Again, a paraphrase.)
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Trump: "Viktor Orban is a tough person and smart. They said why is the whole world blowing up? It wasn't 3 years ago. Orban said it's because China and North Korea and Russia were afraid of Trump. I ended the Nord Stream II pipeline but Biden put it back. He ended the XL pipeline but let the Russians do that. Viktor Orban said the most respected most feared person was Trump and we had no problems when he was president. Biden got millions of votes and they threw her out of office. Here's a secret: he hates her. She got zero votes."
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If Trump is holding back on stopping the Russian/Ukraine war just as some sort of dangled treat, then we don't need him.
As a human being, if he has that control he should exercise it, no matter the outcome of the election.
And besides, he never answered whether he wanted Ukraine to win or not.
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When this is over, I wanna see a stat on who spoke/was on camera more. The press plays right into his hands. Asking him to clarify only gets him more speaking time. That's why he "wins" debates, because he monopolizes media time. She is doing a great job attacking him, but he gets the last word.
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They didn’t cut off his mic, let him ramble. 🤬
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While clearly muting hers. Beautiful /s
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Behind the Bastards did a great two parter on how liberal media basically let Mussolini and Hitler rise to power unchallenged because they were so busy trying to appear "fair" and "neutral" and "objective" even as journalists and editors were being executed in the streets.
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The "virtual coin flip" conveniently gives him the final word at the debate, too. He will be the last one who speaks and he'll be allowed to monopolize the time spewing hot air.
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Considering how insanely he's been rambling, I don't know that giving him the last word will help him.
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Closer to equal than I would have thought.
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The main problem with the debate is that the audience that is listening has to actually also be SANE.
If you have nutjobs listening to all this ... they'll love Trump no matter how reasonable Harris may sound.
The trouble has been, is and will always be ... the general intelligence of the US population.
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Remember, Trump needs more than the MAGA faithful to win. Only a small number of people need to be swung by this and I can't believe this will turn anyone against Harris.
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If she could get 3% more in every state, it would be a landslide. She would win Florida and Texas at that rate going off 2020 numbers.
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Trump looked angry & rattled. Harris looked like she belonged on that stage.
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Trump on immigration: "People don't leave my rallies. They don't go to her rallies. Also, WWIII is going to happen because immigrants, but the towns are too embarrassed to talk about it, but black people are eating dogs. People go to my rallies because they want to Make America Great Again which is a great phrase. She is destroying this country, it will be Venezuela on steroids."
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"THEY EAT DOGS" - A totally sane person
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Furthermore: "I fired most of the people I hired because they did a bad job. Biden didn't fire anyone because of Afghanistan and people died and I got to know their family. They should have fired all the generals! I fire people who are bad at their jobs. Those people write books about me, but no one else can write books. They didn't fire the economists, look at the inflation. And just to finish- I got more votes than any Republican by far."
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"It was a perfect debate, nobody's ever seen the level of debate I brought"
Calling it now
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nobody’s ever seen the level of debate I brought
Well...
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but the towns are too embarrassed to talk about it, but black people are eating dogs.
Is that a direct quote?
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No. Just a summary.
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shes follows all my policies. im gonna buy her a maga hat. shes going to stop on day one. ummmmmmm
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"Please, I'll give you a minute here". Wait what. I thought they were moving on.
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debunked by every newspaper. saun hannity. laura ingram. lol
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Disregarding everything before, on closing statements alone, Kamala crushed him.
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lol. more votes than any republican president. oh wait more votes than any president. you know. except for the ones who have gotten majorities.
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Rump's entire argument has been nothing but FUD.
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biden let them build pipelines in europe!!!
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why cant they just tell him no?!
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she wants to take your guns and perform transgender operations on illegal aliens
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Confusing goals, but I support 'em
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That was said SaRCasTiCllY
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We will improve private insurance
Am I hearing Trump promise to infringe on the rights of private businesses???
/s
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Trump on Israel/Gaza and how he would negotiate to get the hostages out and end the war: "If I were president, it wouldn't have happened. Russia- I know Putin very well- wouldn't have gone into Ukraine. All of the sudden, she hates Israel! She wouldn't meet with Netanyahu because she was at a sorority party. She hates Israel. If she is president, I will predict Israel will not exist in two years. I am good at predictions. She also hates Arabs because the whole place will blow up. It would have never happened. Iran was broke under Trump, now they have $3 billion because they took down my sanctions. Now they are paying terrorists. They are spheres of terror. They had no money. ABC covered it well. Now they are a rich nation and now they are spreading that money around. Look at what's happened with the 'hooties' and Yemen. Look at the middle east. If I'm president-elect, I will get it done before I become president."
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If I’m president-elect, I will get it done before I become president.
He literally doesn't understand how anything works at all ever.
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AND HE WAS ALREADY PRESIDENT!
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Trump rebuttal to Harris explaining why Trump is a disgrace on national security: "She's the one that caused it. That's weak on national security. 168 countries sent people into our country. Their crime rates were way down. Putin endorsed her and I believe it. It wouldn't have happened with me. World leaders think they're incompetent. I have a question: why did Biden kill the Keystone Pipeline and allow the Nord Stream Pipeline? Because he's weak."
If ANYONE thinks Trump came out on top in this debate, they are certifiable.
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Until this very moment, I honestly didn't believe he would show up.
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Concepts of a plan. Genius!
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I loved these moderators. Hard questions all around, fact-checking on outrageous claims, and they were aggressive enough with the mics.
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"The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again. Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States".. Trump is on the ropes right now..
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When he’s not talking, his eyes look like he’s falling asleep.
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Don't be silly. He isn't in court.
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MF is on tranquilizers. And he’s still an asshole.
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oh now he took a bullet to the head. anyone else hear marsha marsha marsha with his russia russia russia?
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The moderators need to stop Trump from talking out of turn. So much for the mute button.
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So much for the mute button.
They have a button. Singular
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oh biden and his son is getting all this money from ukraine and moscow and china
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"She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan."
Trump logic on full display tonight.
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Moderator: "You said you would be good for women's reproductive rights. What did you mean by that?"
Trump: "Ramble... lie... ramble... lie... abortion should be illegal, ending Roe v. Wade was good... ramble... lie..."
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Trump on the election: "I don't acknowledge I lost in 2020. I said it sarcastically when I said I lost. There's so much proof. They should have sent it back to the legislature. I got the most votes. People should never think an election is a fraud. We need a wall and we need elections. They are trying to get illegal immigrants to vote. No judge said we had standing on the election fraud cases, that's a technicality. Can you believe that? I was the president! You do an ABC special on it. We have facts and statistics. But that's old news and we need to solve the problem right now because we have a nation in decline and it is dying."
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It's clear they're trying so hard to lean on the illegal voting. He's hammering it because he told Mike Johnson to shut down the government and I don't know who chose the plan of attack for why to shut it down, but he's trying to stay on the message they chose and is absolutely flailing.
It's all a ploy to back up their upcoming shutdown. I'm glad to hear it sounds like its going down like a torpedo.
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Oh boy time for racism <rubbing hands with delight>. She put out????
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Key takeaways from a debate that featured tense clashes over abortion, race and the economy
Trump, while measured early on, grew more annoyed as the night went on.
I wish I could have watched it but I just couldn't listen to his stupidity for 90 minutes.
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lol. their executing babies. self destruction is going well.
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Did Kamala leave? Because I’m just seeing ABC let Trump talk all he wants.
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those were your words. I dunno. I dunno.
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"Stand up for our principles and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery' this is not the apprentice Trump
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You heard it folks, he’s the leader of fertilization.
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Not a surprising comment coming from a rapist.
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oh man I can't wait to hear him complain about abc with these questions with the attack on the capital. HOW DARE THEY!!!
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Happy hearing someone talk about Trump's role in the end of the Afghan war.
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He looks like he's going boom boom in his pants.
And he very well could be.
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“Spheres of Tara”
Leave Tara alone! What did she do?
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She just wants to ponder her spheres in peace!
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I thought it was the United States of Tara. Are we the Tararists?
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We are at war with Russia?
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This is really a Trump's Greatest Hits tonight.
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I just had to turn it off. He's running on a loop
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It just got hilarious. Trump is arguing with the moderator about pets being eaten.
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She's absolutely kicking his ass and the interviewers are, too. The Cult of 45 is unreachable by reality, but it's a lot more fun watching this than the Biden debate.
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agreed. SNL is never going to be able to top how funny this is.
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The moderators are actually treating them equally. It's just that Trump is making the ridiculous claims.
That's nice to see. Usual the new organizations want to grill both to appear unbiased.
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Harris shouldn’t let any lies slide. Like every time Trump says some bullshit, she should point out first in her rebuttal that what he said was an outright lie. Biden didn’t even try calling him out on it.
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Then when he is so incoherent that there isn't any lie to refute, point out his incoherence. Or ask the hosts to clarify his point, so a third party confirms his dementia riddled ramblings are not worth responding to.
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"Well there she goes again... it's a lie."
Dude, you are so not doing the Reagan thing right.
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He's parroting good points he hears used against him.
"You don't have a plan"
"That's a lie"
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We won the election... let me get my buddy Mike Lindell on the horn!
The dude who just said he lost the election
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I love all this fear mongering! 😂 America IS great. Let’s keep it that way!
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I loved the VPs at the end there. Vance somehow dodged 2 questions about Trumps question dodging.
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Trump on his immigration plan: "There are more migrants than they say because they allowed criminals and terrorists and drug dealers to come into the U.S. and are told by countries like Venezuela if they come back, they'll kill them. Crime in those countries are way down because they gave criminals to her and they did it because she'll get votes, but it isn't worth it. They've destroyed the fabric of our country. Millions of people let in and all over the world, crime is down except in America and we have a new form of crime, it's called "migrant crime" and it's at the highest level ever. The FBI lied about crime because they didn't include cities. It was a fraud like the number of jobs they said were created!"
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Calling the FBI liars is so insane. This is the Law & Order Party once again...
I mean the FBI are liars, but not about that.
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The FBI is also only responsible for federal crime statistics, as I recall. Most crimes aren't federal.
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I do wish she had called that one out. Violent crime is the lowest it has been in 50 years. Undocumented immigration is below where it was when Trump was in office. Undocumented immigrants commit less crime than citizens.
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I don't think I can watch it tonight. I'm feeling too anxious. How are folks feeling this evening?
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I'm feeling good. Sadly, for both sides. Harris is the better speaker, but MAGA will only listen to Trump's lies
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MAGA is the island of lost souls. The point of the debate is not to change their minds. It is to make the stark difference between the candidates laughably obvious, so that even the moderate conservatives feel ashamed and stupid that he represents their interests, and the moderate Democrats feel comfortable mocking them for their weirdness.
Nobody felt that way about Clinton. She tried to be the better person without alienating the Trump supporters. She used words like "deplorables" when she should have said "shitbags."
Trump supporters deserve to be alienated, just as all bigots and nazis and narcissists should be. They will not change because of a rational argument. You need to smoke them out of the crowd, and then point and laugh until they shrivel up and every child sees their humiliation, so that no one grows up thinking it's OK to be a bigot, or that there are good people on both sides.
Fascism is a threat of violence, and the best way to defeat it is to render it impotent. You can't kill an idea, but you can make people embarrassed to admit it out loud.
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Same. I have to be awake at 5AM and it’s going to raise my blood pressure too much if I watch.
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Trump is gonna ruin the moment
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He ruined everything else
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That's what ruiners do. They ruin things. I hate ruiners. He probably would ruin the ruins if given the chance.
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hey I hear crime is way down in Venezuela. should america start doing like Venezuela?
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Of course Donald Trump attempted to avoid shaking the hand of Kamala Harris.
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I don't know why, but I just felt the urge to go have a look at r/conservatives. It's exactly what you imagine. Dear oh dear
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Did he just forget that she said she doesn't know Putin and instead say she claims not to know Biden?
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oh but hes a leader in ivf. oh wait not its probably after birth. are virginians insulted by this at all?
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Literal quote: “I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things they say about me.”
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"Healed up pretty quick for a bullet to the head."
I wish those were/will be the first words of her response.
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I'm glad she isn't. She hits him on substance and talks policy.
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Trump on Afghanistan: "If you take a look at when I was president, the Taliban killed lots of our soldiers with snipers. I got involved with them because they're the fighting force. And Abdul is the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul not to do it anymore and he asked why I sent him a picture of his house and I told him to figure that out. Mike Pompeo negotiated the exit, but we wouldn't have done it the way Biden did it. They left beautiful new equipment behind. They didn't do what the agreement said. It was terminated because they didn't do. They did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and that's why Russia attacked Ukraine."
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Trump: "I don't care how she wants to identify"
Secret trans ally? /s (obviously he's just a piece of shit)
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Is he saying immigrants did Jan 6?
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No, he's saying they're worse.
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Trumps lies are going to push Kamala into prosecutor mode.
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So idk about everyone else, but did anyone else catch that they both had hot mics?
This wasn't a debate for her, or a law school case scenario, or an undergrad philosophy argument. This was a trap she set.
He managed to call him weak, a poor sport, a sore loser, an idiot, in a publicly appropriate manner, and each time she did, he got more and more unhinged.
Don't stop your opponent from making the wrong move.
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Trump on rallies is a little whiney removed.
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peacefully and patriotically and no one got killed but what about the people killed by border crossers. oh man this is a trip.
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Please say Childcare is Childcare again.
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obama sucks, but I saved it, and im gonna do better but go with this until that is because I have better but once we come up with something better.
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When Kamala looks like that, I'd be scared of her rebuttal.
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what do you mean. these people!
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Jesus Christ, these people...
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now its gonna be ww3
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Watching the pre-show and evidently there’s a new TV show with Don Johnson coming. The commercial has me wondering how many times people can sample Tom Tom Club’s “Genius of Love”.
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Don Johnson is still a thing, huh?
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Don't do it Abdul!
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if I were president the israeli thing would never have happened. hey all the don't vote for harris because the israel thing. trump says she will get rid of israel in two years if she is elected president.
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has to go back 50 years because there is nothing now. um well there was the whole initial topic on your recent rants. soo ah. thats pretty recent.
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“We got a president that doesn’t know he’s alive”
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Any suggestions of the best channel/link to watch it?
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the numbers you are getting from the ukrain conflict. no matter where you get them. even if they are the same as mine. Are Wrong! Im gonna make nato pay up. wait is he mixing up in his head casuality numbers and dollars spent???
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almost assuredly, his dementia is out of control.
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her plan to defund police and her plan to confiscate guns.
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oh man I so needed this commercial break. my side is killing me. I can't take this. Finally can get some breaths but then I think about what just happend and the giggling starts again.
