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Why is Kamala Harris being held at such a higher standard than Trump this election?

It feels like Harris has to run a damn near flawless campaign just to BARELY beat this guy. Yeah you can bring up the current state of the country, but Trump mishandled COVID, there were over 200k deaths, BLM protest and was 2x impeached. And yet, Joe Biden BARELY beat him.

Trump is a convicted felon, liable sexual predator, caused an insurrection on the Capitol Hill, tried to steal the 2020 election (find me 11,000 votes), constantly kisses Russia’s ass, has more pending court cases and gets sentenced next month and overall has been the main driving factor in America’s division.

Yet, this race is STILL either 50/50 or a slight tilt (Harris leads the polling aggregate right now). Harris gets destroyed by the corporate media for almost anything, yet Trump is still lying and saying the most outlandish shit and nobody cares.

Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?

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  • I don't believe it's possible for anybody to be held to lower standards than Trump.

    It's a good thing she's held to higher standards. I don't want anybody held to his standards running anything.

  • USA as a society is mentally ill, where sociopathy is often seen as a virtue. For instance denying poor people health care and food, denying pregnant women with potentially lethal complications the right to abortion. Allowing (white) people to kill (black) people without reason based on stand your ground rules. Refusing stricter gun rules despite countless school shootings. Denying workers a living wage. The list of sociopathy permeating US society goes on and on.

    Now I know that despite this, about half the population see the problems. There are also Americans that fight this, and are world class people. But the other half, somehow confuse Trump's sociopathy with strength, and admire him for it. Yes this is how it is in USA, sociopathy is widely not only accepted but admired, people want Trump to hurt people, the poor, emigrants, people of color, LGBT. Many Americans want all these people to suffer, for no other reason than their mere existence. Somehow this is OK to even extend to women in general too! As Trump is clearly a major misogynist.

    If you are a normal well functioning person, it's near impossible to grasp that such hate can be this widespread, and Trump is fueling it, and before him Republicans have been fueling it for decades.

    This makes all the hateful illegal stuff Trump does nearly irrelevant, people simply don't care, his followers just want to see the people they hate burn. It's not that Trump isn't called out at times, it's just that it doesn't really make a difference.

    • For what it's worth, alot of us see the problem and are doing what we can to help. To stick up for queer folks, to not buy products from places like Walmart, and tell everyone we know to vote for people with empathy.

      Greed is good, became the norm.

      Conservative folks want to conserve what they have, at any cost. Simple as that. Fuck you, I got mine.

    • people want Trump to hurt people, the poor, emigrants, people of color, LGBT. Many Americans want all these people to suffer, for no other reason than their mere existence. Somehow this is OK to even extend to women in general too!

      I can understand that this might be true of people, but sooo many people in this country are women, poor, emigrants, people of color, LGBT. To have as much support as Trump manages to have, clearly there are people within these groups that target themselves.. it makes no sense.

      • Remember in 2016 there were LGBT for Trump?
        It was absolutely insane!! No it doesn't make sense, but there are always a percentage that are delusional, and sometimes they manage to convince others.
        Probably there are people who actually believe they don't deserve equal rights, this can be indoctrinated through religion, and religiousness in USA is VERY high.
        There are probably also people who don't see themselves as part of one of the groups even if they clearly are.
        Remember the MAGA woman who was extremely surprised when her husband was expelled because he was an illegal alien? That's how stupid people can be!
        Because it's "all the others" not "me" they think.

      • Common things that pop up in regards to Republicans voting against their own interests:

        Women with the attitude that "the only moral abortion is my abortion."

        Immigrants who are angry at other immigrants, wanting to close the door behind them. (Just look at Cubans in Florida)

        Log Cabin Republicans, LGBT+ members who are somehow shocked when the party turns on them.

        What do most of these people have in common? Money.

        Trump supporters are more likely to be small business owners. Capitalism doesn't care about your skin color, your creed, your nationality, your history, it just wants your fucking money.

        It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

        Upton Sinclair was talking about jobs, but this can be extended to... women who financially rely on their husbands becoming more politically aligned with their husbands (especially if they like the lifestyle), immigrants financially relying on the "good people" willing to hire them as an immigrant (stockholm syndrome?), and the number of rich white gay dudes who may as well have been rich white straight dudes at any other point in history is too damn high (they love to hide behind their sexuality when anyone critiques their horrible positions, "You can't critique Tim Cook for tax dodging at Apple, he just came out, he's BRAVE!").

    • If you are a normal well functioning person, it’s near impossible to grasp that such hate can be this widespread, and Trump is fueling it, and before him Republicans have been fueling it for decades.

      the only reason this shit ever gets this popular is literally because of fascism.

  • You ever see one of those families where the drug addicted high school dropout gets everything handed to them by the parents but the successful honor student gets beaten because they passed the entrance exam to harvard but didn't pass it good enough?

    It's like that.

    • 2 of my cousins (brother and sister) are 2 very opposite people. The older brother has been a career fuck-up since grade school; always getting in trouble, failing, not caring, running with the wrong crowds, knocked up a girl when they were 16, got kicked out of 1 school and barely graduated. He's never held a job more than 6 months, if that, each job is minimum wage with minimal skills, been kicked out of the house a few times, has a sordid legal history, dated some questionable women, and eventually got into a relationship with a single mom of 3 kids who inherited 6-figures when her dad died and dude thought he was on easy street from that point forward...until 6 months later when he blew threw half the money and she kicked him out to where he's now crashing in a camper working a lawn job.

      His sister, honor student in HS, went to college, got a degree but had difficulty finding a job in graphic design that wasn't freelance. Seeing the 27 2nd chances her enabler-parents afforded her brother...she stopped caring and moved back in with the parents bouncing from middling job to middling job. He's in his mid-30s and she's in her upper 20's

  • Theres several reasons

    Part of it is good old fashioned bigotry

    A big part of it is the systemic advantage the Electoral College gives Republicans

    And of course there's the matter that Traitor Trump voters don't have standards while the rest of us do

  • Because the kind of people who run CNN and other staples of traditional media are the same people who covered for people like Jimmy Savile.

    Mark Thompson is Chairman and CEO of CNN. Here's some blurbs from his Wikipedia, the Savile one being the most salacious.


    In September 2010, Thompson acknowledged some of the BBC's previous political bias, which he said he had witnessed early in his career. He stated: "In the BBC I joined 30 years ago there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people's personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left". He added: "the organisation did struggle then with impartiality".

    Fucking news to me, mate.


    Although Thompson departed the BBC before public exposure of the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal and is not noted in the BBC chronology of the unfolding coverage, Thompson faced questions about his role in the events around Savile's actions and BBC coverage of them. According to a New York Times review, Thompson denied knowing of a BBC Newsnight programme on accusations against Savile before it was dropped soon after Savile's death in October 2011.

    Literally everyone around Savile is fucking trash.


    In a 4 February 2024 investigation by The Guardian, some CNN staff blamed their channel's newly appointed director Mark Thompson for what they described as biased reporting of the Israel–Hamas war. The staff criticized their network's coverage of the war, charging that it had promoted Israeli propaganda, and gave more attention to Israeli suffering, and the Israeli narrative of the war. One staffer claimed that this bias was systematic and institutionalized, as many journalists' stories were forced to be cleared by channel's Jerusalem bureau before publication. Staffers claimed that statements by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority were rarely reported on, while Israeli statements were taken at face value. A CNN spokesperson denied the charges of bias.


    That's to say nothing about the pro-Trump head of Discovery (which owns CNN) David Zaslav slobbing this guys knob.

    Discovery CEO David Zaslav shared, "I am confident he is exactly the leader we need to take the helm of CNN at this pivotal time."

    Thompson was also formerly at the New York Times, another publication that has been swinging to the right. However, if you check out the Lifestyle section of the NYT, you quickly realize why, because it's aimed at rich fucks with a second house in the Hamptons.

    It's literally in their short-term-financial-interest to get Trump. They don't give a damn about long-term-interests at all.

  • I'll take racism, sexism, propaganda and capitalism for 500 Alex.

    They've got pretty firm control of the business sectors through tax cut agenda. They've got pretty firm control of the farmers for the same. Through fear and propaganda they've got pretty strong control of the poor and some of the educated middle class in the rural areas. A lot of the red states are doing everything they can to impede their education systems. If you keep people from becoming educated there's less competition at the top and a lot more red voters.

    All you've got to fight them are the poor and the middle class in the cities and suburbs and the occasional upper class that isn't so self-serving that they're willing to stand on everyone else.

  • Every politician in U.S. history has been held to a higher standards than Trump. And thank God.

  • Because apparently half of the active voters in this country are either greedy corporate cunts, wealthy sociopaths, MAGA morons, authoritarian Christian ideologue crazies, psuedo-intellectual "centrists"/independents that somehow conflate basic human respect for minorities and outright fascism as "both sides are the same", or some combination thereof. Those type of people are the type that think the ends always justify the means and that the ends they want is a US that looks like a cross between A Handmaid's Tale, Atlas Shrugged, and modern day Russia. It is one of the most disheartening realizations of my adult life to learn that so many of my fellow Americans are fucking vile people.

    Do keep in mind, that roughly half of voters is not the same as roughly half of Americans. The highest turnout of voting eligible people in the last century was only 66.6% in 2020. Basically every Trump nut votes. It is there entire reason for being these days, to support and vote for Trump. And in 2020, Trump only got 46.9% of the popular vote, i.e. only 33.03% of the US voting eligible actually cast a vote for Trump. The rest of us are either actively trying to stop Trump or are at least not actively supporting him. The absolute BEST thing we can do as a country is to bump those numbers up. There is no excuse for 1 in 3 people to not vote, leaving another 1 in 3 people to have disproportionate power over everyone else's lives. Complacency and apathy or counting on enough others to do their civic duty so you don't have to is how Trump wins again. Vote and make every single person you know go vote too. Tell them to register. Tell them to vote early if that is more convenient for them. Whatever. Just go vote.

    Update: The second best thing you can do is vote for state and federal epresentatives and leaders that will advocate for election reforms like joining the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) and/or abolishing the electoral college, fighting Gerrymandering, establishing new, more fair and representative voting systems (Ranked Choice, Approval, Proportional, etc.), term limits, etc. The goal is for representative government is to actually represent the popular will of their voters. It absolutely does NOT do that right now. That should be our first and greatest goal for our government.

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