Alabama GOP refuses to draw second Black district, despite Supreme Court order
Alabama GOP refuses to draw second Black district, despite Supreme Court order
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., and Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., have been calling state legislators about the map, which could affect control of Congress.
A lot of people were wondering this during the later Trump years: what's to stop government officials from simply ignoring the Supreme Court (or another branch, for that matter). It's surely a "Constitutional Crisis", but many conservatives seem more interested in preaching about the Constitution than actually following it.
what's to stop government officials from simply ignoring the Supreme Court
A federal government being willing to enforce the law Reconstruction style and send in federal troops to effect the arrest of these traitors and the unconditional surrender of their government. Anything less is just giving the anti-democratic forces time to get stronger and chip away at more of our society.
A federal government being willing to enforce the law Reconstruction style and send in federal troops to effect the arrest of these traitors and the unconditional surrender of their government. Anything less is just giving the anti-democratic forces time to get stronger and chip away at more of our society.
At first I was writing a comment to say the Posse Comitatus Act wouldn't allow this, but it seems like the Insurrection Act of 1807 is an exception, and would apply in this instance.
Specifically:
10 U.S. Code § 253 - Interference with State and Federal law
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1)so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2)opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.
Edit: I feel compelled to point out that we're not here yet, because the SCOTUS order has a review process for the new voting maps, and if a judge rejects them, the judge can authorize a third party to draw the maps for Alabama. If the Alabama government rejects those third-party maps, then shit gets real.
We are most certainly within a constitutional crisis. You can probably start the timeline at the 2000 Supreme Court ruling where the court said it had no authority to rule, but it did. The republicans blocking the supreme court nomination was also a clear breakdown of the system.
Legally? Nothing. See Worcester v. Georgia, where the apocryphal quote "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it" comes from.
Ultimately, though, if a state decides it doesn't want to follow federal law any more, that's secession, and we've fought a civil war over it before.
Just like every other part of their religion.
It's actually not a Constitutional crisis. Specifically because there's practically zero enumerated duties of SCOTUS in the Constitution.
Thank Marshall for conniving his way into actual power for the court. But it can vanish just as easily.
Just like they do with preaching a book they don't even read themselves. And only preach parts of it. And only when it's convenient for them.
I imagine the house GOP is thinking "What are you going to do about it."
guess we're at the fuck around and find out stage
Well, there are options aside from sending in troops. The article notes that there can still be challenges to these maps, and one outcome is that the court throws out the legislatures maps entirely and hires a special master.
Maybe they should hire the one they used in NY. He was so effective at making competitive districts and avoiding gerrymandering that the Democrats lost 4 House seats there, making up most of the Republican Majority this Congress. If your goal is to level the playing field, he's your man.
Well, there are options aside from sending in troops
The thing is, there’s nothing to find out. The SC (compromised as it is) says “no, you can’t do that”. The state government is saying “cool bro imma do it anyways”. If the feds impose a new map, what happens if the state just ignores it outright? Or any other measures intended to enforce this decision?
You're right, there's not much the federal government can do to force this directly, but indirectly, they can decide where federal funding goes. and Alabama gets 41.2% of it's state revenue from federal funding.
The executive branch is the only branch with significant enforcement capabilities. If the branches revolt it will be a quick coup.
It's almost like there's something something checks and balances
I don't think folks are recognizing the amount of FAFO going on.
Ok, then I guess universities can continue with affirmative action.
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Well there have been a few that have said they're just gonna keep doing it. Nothing's gonna happen.
How’s that gutting of Voting Rights Act going, eh SCOTUS?
Surely the answer is "exactly as intended"?
They did this in Ohio and Wisconsin too: Apparently the GOP can straight up ignore the law, ignore rulings, and nothing happens to them.
This really shouldn't surprise anyone. Trump himself said that if minorities vote, there will never be a Republican elected again. The GOP has taken this to heart, which is why they're always trying to come up with ways to make it harder for minorities to vote, by like shortening voting times (limiting when polling stations can be open), restricting mail-in ballots, etc. So they find ways to fuck over minorities and change laws/bills to benefit Republicans.
It's funny that whenever Republicans call foul and demand recounts, it's always Republican supporters that are caught voting more than once.
The funny thing is if you go back to George Bush - they were conceivably on the path to have a permanent majority if they ever got their immigration reform plan done. Latinos y centroamericanos are overwhelmingly Catholic and to various degrees on the conservative side of things, and the Republicans threw it all away to be racist.
Do it again, General Sherman!
Is this the GOP’s admission that the Supreme Court is illegitimate?
Seriously...how are these states still this backwards after all this time?
Because you're seeing the results of a decades long plan to brainwash their citizens into always voting against their own best interests.
It started with gutting mental health services, then they moved on to defunding education. That let them sell their people on all of the blatantly obvious lies.
You can thank Reagan for that, just like most of the other major issues with the country.
What did Blacks do so badly to be targeted nonstop and mistreated?
