/c/café daily chat thread for 24 June 2023

There's this Battle of the Band by our army happening in Dataran Sejarah Ayer Keroh Melaka. Driving back from work tonight gonna be very jammy uhuk

Tried something called roti goyang banjir. I forgot to take picture, but it's good.

Heritage Kopitiam 30, Jalan PJU 1A/42B,Ara Permata, Ara Damansara,47301 Petaling Jaya,Selangor,Malaysia

Something like this?

But yeah, looks good 🤤
- Yeah similar enough. It was really interesting haha
Idk if they're the pioneer la but there's a mamak that's become quite a tourist spot (used to be a makan hunter spot for years) in KL, near Masjid Jamek, if you want to try other known places :D it's called Mansion Tea Stall, next to the Klang River side.
- There’s also some hidden nasi minyak lauk spot upstairs inside the apartment that my ex colleagues like to visit (the apartment is a bit of a slum, remember when it got locked down during the pandemic).
  
  Edit: I don’t quite remember if it’s nasi minyak or some other type of nasi
- Thanks for the rec! Will give it a try next time

greetings

After reading the Lemmy guide more carefully, I think we have way more users than I thought yesterday:

I think the 1.62k users are locally registered users, not federated users! This means we're actually growing steadily by about 20-30 local registrations a day. (Yesterday we were at 1.6k, day before at 1.57k, etc.)
The 67 users/week is the number of users who have posted or commented within the last week. There are way more users registered, but they're lurking.
This lines up with r/malaysia! Over there we have 360k subscribers and 6.4m views per month, but popular posts generally get 1k upvotes. So a huge proportion of the sub lurks and never even upvotes.
This gives me hope that we can build this into something that will survive the long haul. We've built a nice community together on r/my and it'd suck to lose it if reddit declined.
Hello lurkers! :)

Oh, tagging @Naomikho@monyet.cc and @Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc since we were talking about this yesterday.

Interesting. This might be due to each post over at r/my have automod linked to this server, and there's no news over there. I have a feeling once monday is here we will see a stagnant growth of new user and the active user might drop a bit lower than yesterday, as everything went back to normal. Not helping the retention is Lemmy is such a pita to use sometimes, and right now we're basically duplicate of r/my, r/msians, r/mhp, and r/mpf combined, so it's hard to retaining active user for longer than 2 days, since they have larger audience back there.

So is there any direction you want this server to take? As far as i'm concern i'm in for a long haul. Feels like this could be so much more than the direction Reddit is taking.
- I know what you mean on the former point. I am concerned about retention too. But I'd say we have achieved a minimum bar of success at this point! If there is a sudden scattering from reddit, we have proven that our community is absolutely capable of setting up shop here. Posters, readers, regulars, everyone.
  
  So we have built the boat! Before reddit there were lots of cosy forums across the internet. In the worst case, we can be one of them. We won't lose the group we've created together.
  
  Re: Direction: I don't have one clear answer yet, but here is my thinking so far:
  
  There is very strong evidence that Malaysians want a national forum all to themselves – lowyat.net.
  
  I have long felt r/my has limits which prevent it from fully serving in this role. Malaysia has such diverse languages, cultures, religions, activities, everything. It's hard to fit this into a single subreddit (e.g. we can't have Chinese discussion)
  
  But while lowyat.net is very impressive, it's run on a structure / codebase / ideas which are 20 years old (phpbb). The community is shaped and limited by this fact, e.g. they can't have deeply threaded discussions.
  
  Perhaps this is an opportunity to create a thing which serves a similar role to lowyat, but is much more thoughtful about its impact and role in the Malaysian online ecosystem?
  
  The r/my team seems to have figured out how to create a warm and cosy community, that also serves as a force for good.
  
  Like mediating racism and controversy instead of steering into it, and signal-boosting stuff that benefits the IRL Malaysian community.
  
  E.g. if you do a quick Fermi estimate via our pageview counts, I suspect @a_HerculePoirot_fan@monyet.cc may literally be the most impactful teacher in Malaysia right now, via her SPM support. Consider the effect of slightly better career and university decisions across each student's entire lifespan. (And similarly, u/snel may be the most impactful counselor)
  
  Sorry for the wall of text! This was a good exercise to get some thinking on paper. What do you think as well?
- Also hmm back on retention –
  
  I'm wondering what we can do to keep a candle burning over here when the main sub comes back online. Would love to hear ideas.
  
  So far, the best idea I have is that there is content we can offer here which is hard to get on r/my
  
  Chinese / Tamil / Jawi language support is definitely one thing. But I'm not sure what else at this stage.
  
  Maybe we can point people here for specialised content which we're normally forced to remove, such as job boards, buying and selling, dating, promoting local arts and business...
  
  Hmmmm. Perhaps we should start a discussion post for this meta / strategy stuff somewhere, and put it on the sidebar.
That’s exciting! This place seems to be growing into the biggest & most vibrant Malaysian community on the Fediverse yet (though mstdn.my on mastodon is also fairly happening).

Anime fest lets go :D

Started anime fest thread in the AMG community. Will be posting stuff there
have fun!
anime fest lets go :D
- Have fun there!

Passing by and saw lrt stopped between gateway and Asia(or tamana) jaya? 🌚 Rapid kl pls

Ah, this is likely a spare train that will only be use during peak hour. During off peak hours ,you'll always see a train parked near the University station.
- I didn't know that :o Isn't this in the middle of the lane tho? Now that you mentioned it, I also saw the same thing before
- Ooo, i see i see, didn't know they have this system
Lemme guess, kelana jaya line like they usually do? 🙈

By the way, according to this thread: https://feddit.de/post/1037021, the_donald just got set up at sh.itjust.works but idk if instance owners can block an entire community only at the moment. Ppl are bringing up beehaw's reasons for defedding that whole instance and allowing comms like that is why. In any case they have set up their own instance too: https://patriots.win/

https://sh.itjust.works/c/thedonald

it looks like there are only two posters and everything is being downvoted there, maybe let sh.itjust.works sort that out themselves?
- Actually it's a good question, what is going to be the policy if someone set up...say TokGuruHadi community on monyet?
Seems like they will just move to their own instance, lotsa trolling happening, and a spam sub.
- For sure for sure. It's just those big instances have to be proactive also but that's definitely a sample of a long term modding headache for sure

I feel like replacing the banner for !politics with the painting Sultan Selangor had would be doubly fitting.

Also TIL it's a ripoff of a Banksy.

Ohh my, you should!
- sadly, i dont mod that community.

Damn, i think the "hot" sorting is bugged, it's hard to know what criteria they use to get post/comment pushed up

related to the jotd: https://youtu.be/3a2VIYE2b1c?t=50