Place is going exactly as expected

Welp, that's my vocabulary lesson for the day. Screenshot:

Also, the dino in the upper right is cute.

What’s that mean?

Why do u act like everyone knows German?

lmao I didn't know what was happening in this one for a moment

Noice!

Everything from these big corps have no soul. Because we know it's just about exploiting users for money.

I want the old internet back so bad. Hopefully federation can fuel many new actually fun services that are not built to make money but to actually entertain and amuse people, or simply be useful.

I personally feel pleasure from doing good things in the world. But it seems to be a group of people who doesn't feel it's worth doing something for others unless there is money to be made from it.

It's pathetic because it's nothing new, it's old code, they just have to run it again to try and distract the users. There's no changes, no creativity, no risk. They're just jangling keys in front of the baby to try and stop it crying

It seems emptier this time. Like lots of uncontested space there.

It's now a symbol of how deteriorated Reddit has become. I mean, yeah, you've summarized it perfectly. r/place is now the symbolism of everything wrong with Reddit. It's repetitious, as much as all of the karma farming posts on Reddit have been for years. All the other places had contained a culture snapshot of everything that Reddit brought together.

All that this version of Place has brought, is all of the anguish towards one person and their poor decision making.

I might could live with repetitive if it wasn't for the anger. I've got a 2'x2' print of 2022's canvas sitting next to my desk, and I still get lost in it every now and then. Just another trip exploring a new canvas could be fun.

But then I open the page and 15% of it is just "fuck spez" and everyone is angry. Rightfully so, but... I just don't feel it anymore.

Ehh, flags dominated since the very first r/place.

But yes it's pretty obvious each new edition is ever more astroturfed. The second one had lots of obvious organised bots designing perfect shapes and logos, and moderators' meddling was noticed as well.

It's the ol' Blizzard "Look, we're introducing a new character who might be gay! There's no lore that references it anywhere, we're just tellin' you they're gay or lesbian, aren't we great!" kind of maneuver. Ooh, look at the special thing we're doing, aren't we playful and fun?

For the record, I'm all for inclusiveness, I just use Blizzard as an example since they used to be just so transparent about that before the really dark times.

Yeah, I agree this is most certainly to increase traffic. On the one hand, I like that there are many places on the board where the anti-admin sentiment is very obvious, but it does play into their hands in terms of traffic numbers.

Not yet, be the change you want to see in the world.

Still haven't seen a "join lemmy" but gotta love "Digg 4 Lyfe"

Edit: It actually says DGG 4 LYFE.

It would probably get removed

They are coordinating the r/Save3rdPartyApps banner in this discord. https://discord.gg/nxZbjurQTQ

Agreed. 3rd Farty Apps are important.

Do you expect to see the site die in a week?

How far back do you think user engagement on r/place will stall reddit failing?

Do you think not using the canvas would cause more harm than their favorite event being covered in language shitting on the CEO and making the pretty canvas not marketable?

Personally, I strongly disagree if you do think so. Even if every Lemmy user drove 0 traffic to reddit, it would change very little of their day to day engagement.

It's important in the long term to move away from reddit and reduce engagement of the site, but the cost benefit ratio of fucking up the marketability of r/place strongly outweighs the effect users would have engaging the site.

You guys act like an infinitesimally small blip of traffic coming from a relatively niche community will be enough to make reddit successful again. People on /r/place drawing "fuck spez" using 1d old accounts and adblockers are nothing. Ruining this year's /r/place in exchange for a blip of mostly useless traffic is a W imo.

This is true. But if this is this year's Place event, that's a sad turnout, regardless of what's being done there. Nothing like the original, not that anyone expected it would be. Dare to say this will be the last Place on Reddit.

I think it felt fine in 2022, the five year gap was long enough. But this year... it just feels hollow to me. Can't tell if that's from repetition or just me being burnt out on Reddit, or both.

I can imagine they attempted to save face after all the 3rd party app mess, of course it's an ill-advised decision and backfired on them as it should.

Idk 17 - 22 was a big enough gap to restore the novelty. 22 - 23 not so much..

Every time you do anything more and more often it feels less special. That's how things work.

I think even if users actually abstained, bots would get involved to make place look active. maybe. I don't know how far reddits willing to go to make it seem like they're a good platform

How many of them don't know about Lemmy yet and would switch in a second if they found out?

Ah good to see Belgium represented 😅

True, but also, this is a community for talking about reddit

I need the shadenfreud of seeing what shitty life choices shes making.

I don't see the J or the Lemmy

I think all the Lemmy folks don’t want to give Reddit the traffic. At least that’s my theory.

Really disappointed by all the “fuck Spez” instead of “join Lemmy,” you’d think advertising a competitor would be much more hurtful to Reddit…

I think they're building it next to a lower void bubble right now

Did the OSU guys dip?

Hell, I never understood the appeal to begin with.

Trying to put a bandaid on a gash, maybe. Also you can only use place on new Reddit or the official app. And you have to verify your email. So they could try to show off to investors that they have this many verified users, or this much increase in users even after the fiasco.

I'm somewhat okay with someone having posted a screenshot, but 100% agree that we don't need to send traffic to Reddit.

That doesn't seem particularly realistic at this point... ~Cherri

But what about the advertisers! Supporting trans communities is scawwyy 😢 😢 Reddit has priorities after all.

Its by design. CEOs are replaceable, the corporation is not. Once all the shit changes are done they'll get rid of Huffman (who will get a fat golden parachute for his hard work) and new CEO will walk back maybe 2 of his changes. Suddenly reddit is loveable again and to say otherwise is asking for too much.

I guess the reddit name helps it keep it up for longer. Its not as bad as fuck Steve Huffman.

If they haven't figured out which accounts are anti-Spez from their plain text comments I doubt they'll get much extra insight out of pixels on the canvas.

You also give too much credit to what Spez & co. are doing (his little tantrums aside). Reddit has no value as a free platform, which is why they don't care if those values get destroyed. They want to sell the content, get their money and call it a day.

Then Reddit gets fed into a LLM and becomes a sandtrap for the clueless netizens who stumble across it. It will be a bot-filled cesspit within the year after the sale/IPO.

What I dung understand is why they're all trying to become tictok when advertisers are starting to pay less and less for endless-scrolling platforms.

Yeah, people will spend hours zombie-scrolling through 30-second content, but within 2 minutes they've forgotten what they've watched. That makes ads on the platforms worthless.

Youtube is on the way to doing it right. Use the shorts to get people to follow an account and then start watching longer videos.

In Firefox at least (I'm sure most others) you can elect to "view desktop site" and see it in a mobile browser just fine

At first I read that as "The fuck? Spez is perfect" and it took a moment for my brain to catch up and tell me to calm down.

This is 100% why

I would love to see comparison numbers to previous Places

"We brought all the users back, buy us!"

"But they're all saying they hate you. Like, really REALLY hate you."

"Trust me, it's a great deal!"

I can imagine seeing more bots from fewer sources.

I'm glad I finally found someone referencing this. It made me so sad to see. I really feel like this wave of anti LGBTQ+ sentiment is spreading and all from a fucking pointless culture war started by absolute morons.

Last year there were twitch streamers getting their followers to make pictures for them, so maybe check twitch?

I could see “join lemmy” and “join kbin” actually being useful too.

IPO engagement metrics

The announcement video shows several dates (starting with April 1), so it seems it just kept getting pushed back until they just said, "f it, we'll just do it now."

I pushed it immediately and have no regrets

Right here with you.

I was one of the first 5 greens

I got a laugh scrabbling through old high school German lessons in my head, it's a new insult to me but it fits xD