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Labour MPs begin quitting X over ‘hate and disinformation’

Labour MPs have begun quitting X in alarm over the platform, with one saying Elon Musk had turned it into “a megaphone for foreign adversaries and far-right fringe groups”.

Over the weekend, newly elected MPs took to WhatsApp groups to raise growing concerns about the role X played in the spread of misinformation amid the far-right-led riots in parts of England and Northern Ireland.

Two Labour MPs are known to have told colleagues they were leaving the platform. One of them, Noah Law, has disabled his account. Other MPs who still use X have begun examining alternatives, including Threads, which is owned by Facebook’s parent company, Meta, and the open-source platform Bluesky.

In an article for the Guardian on Monday, a former Twitter executive, Bruce Daisley, said Musk should face personal sanctions and even an arrest warrant if he continues to stir up public disorder online.

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  • That government agencies are staying with them just makes them seem like jackasses that just care about the views by any means necessary. Anne Frank would be a nobody today, nothing but a banned account in today's social networks, a lot of the intentional disinformation, narrative shaping, and hidden incontestable moderation these social networks are getting away that can completely lock away your work from any access except their own should be prosecutable and have legal recourse.

  • Over the weekend...

    Oh, you mean after the official UK Xitter account was banned because the Police Commissioner displayed zero understanding of their laws boundaries and managed to completely embarrass themselves and their national government by threatening extra-judicial extradition?

    I don't like Elon but fuck that noise. We fought a whole fucking war to not be subject to the UKs laws and I have yet to find an expiration date on the Deceleration of Independence.

    I think these MP's are dining on a fresh bowl of sour grapes.

    • It’s rare to see a comment that is so absolutely, completely, confirmably wrong.

      the official UK Xitter account was banned

      No, it wasn’t. That is fake news spread by right-wingers.

      threatening extra-judicial extradition

      No, they didn’t. They threatened UK-based Twitter users promoting violence and hatred that they could be prosecuted for it. The tweet in question was not intended for an international audience.

      We fought a whole fucking war to not be subject to the UKs laws

      Welcome to the globalised economy, if you want to trade in the UK, you are subject to the UK’s laws.

      • That is fake news spread by right-wingers.

        Guess I'll have to start fact checking on Mastadon.

        No, they didn’t.

        They threatened UK-based Twitter users

        “We will throw the full force of the law at people. And whether you’re in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you,” Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News.

        That's the direct quote and it is what I am reacting to.

        Welcome to the globalized economy, if you want to trade in the UK, you are subject to the UK’s laws.

        You sure you want to play this game? You, as the symbolic UK, aren't exactly coming with the best of hands.

    • Yeah, I can't really agree with the Brits on this one.

      I think that what might happen in the long term is that different countries wind up with at least semi-separate social media platforms. Trying to create a least common denominator that everyone can live with just runs into too many problems.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinternet

      The splinternet (also referred to as cyber-balkanization or internet balkanization) is a characterization of the Internet as splintering and dividing due to various factors, such as technology, commerce, politics, nationalism, religion, and divergent national interests. "Powerful forces are threatening to balkanise it", wrote the Economist weekly in 2010, arguing it could soon splinter along geographic and commercial boundaries. The Chinese government erected the "Great Firewall" for political reasons, and Russia has enacted the Sovereign Internet Law that allows it to partition itself from the rest of the Internet. Other nations, such as the US and Australia, have discussed plans to create a similar firewall to block child pornography or weapon-making instructions.

      I mean, I'm not going to have the British government censoring what I can see on political grounds. No way. And I'm sure that there are Brits who are appalled at seeing politically-extreme material that's constitutionally-protected in the US showing up in front of their eyeballs.

      And this is just the UK. Like, they're maybe censorious by our standards, but it's not even getting into stuff like Islamic countries and blasphemy law or Russia wanting state control over media because they don't like criticism of the government.

      Like, the best you might get is a common platform but with not everyone having the same view of the content on it, with some people having content censored in various ways, kind of like you get on the Threadiverse with defederations. Like, the government gets a kill switch over particular content on the view that their citizens have of information, but cannot disrupt communication between people outside of their jurisdiction.

      It's kind of unfortunate, because it decreases the gain potentially you get from leveraging network effect, where the value of the network rises with the square of the number of users.

      • I wish I could upvote your comment more than once. It's just not possible to regulate a Social Media platform such that it complies with the cultural norms and speech laws of every country in the world while allowing the free flow of ideas and comments.

    • Deceleration of independence

      Lmao

      • Oh Man, what an embarrassing place for a spelling mistake! Oh well, I'm going to own it and move on. :)

    • Extra judicial what now?

      If you're claiming the head UK police officer said he'd kidnap people off the street of a foreign country like the fuckong CIA you've made a mistake.

      Probably from reading too much crap on twitter

      • If you’re claiming the head UK police officer said he’d kidnap people off the street of a foreign country like the fuckong CIA you’ve made a mistake.

        "We will throw the full force of the law at people. And whether you’re in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you," Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News.

        Probably from reading too much crap on twitter

        Fuck Xitter, I been on it maybe 4 times in the past decade.

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