Reddit @lemmy.world

5mo ago

Reddit implemented a limit on old.reddit - 100 requests per 10 minutes

old.reddit.com Blocked

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Another step closer to never using Reddit again
- Unfortunately there's still a lot of good, helpful documentation on Reddit that I wish was somewhere else. Even if I deleted my account last year I still have to rely on some Reddit posts to find solutions to certain problems.
  
  Yep, unfortunately I still have to go to r/television on reddit to find good recommendations because the television community here is dead.
  
  So reproduce it.
  
  This is only half serious, but reddit is usually part of LLM training Sets, so you could try your luck with ChatGPT et al.
- Just rip the bandaid off
- You're still on the steps?
- I use Libredirect extension on Firefox with Redlib instances turned on. When a post doesn't load, I switch instances. It works like 95% of the time. Enough for me to not visit reddit ever again.
- I just read something about them trying to paywall some subs. That would not be a step, bit be a giant leap for a lot of people to abandon that shit hole.
- I use a third party app to sometimes look for stuff I need and it was already on that 100 requests limit

"There are no plans to get rid of Old Reddit." - reddit
Completely expected this, technically they are not removing it, just making it so shit no one would use it. Same move done by twitter when muskrat took over
The redesign doesn't really work, it just tells you to use their horrendous app or login to see any "unverified" content. What that is only they seem to know...
Anyone still relying on reddit's user generated data should use something like a redlib instance
- “There are no plans to get rid of old reddit…”
  Makes old reddit more and more user unfriendly…
  “User numbers for old reddit have steadily dropped, they prefer our app or the new reddit site, so we no longer see it worthwhile to maintain old reddit. We’re shutting it down.”
- Can redlib also be fkd by Reddit?

Imma be honest, the only thing I use reddit for is the porn. Things are starting to pick up over here a bit, but for a while it was almost nothing.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't really care what happens to Reddit anymore. I left with the exodus about a year ago and never looked back (except for the porn).
- Unfortunately that "picking up" here looks to mostly be a bot that is grabbing reddit posts so it's still mostly reddit. There really aren't that many people on Lemmy so I wouldn't expect to see much of that stuff made specifically to post here.
  
  I believe it will happen. In only 1 year, this place went from ghost town to 30+ comments on most posts. Give it a few more years of people spreading the word and reddit continuing to make people go elsewhere, and it will almost be the same.
  
  I have that bot blocked. Those posts have little value here since no one seems to comment on them.
- Yeah, old.reddit is good for porn. Otherwise new reddit wants you to use the app and login for porn. That's weird as fuck. Don't track what I'm baitin' to.
- I'm curious, never used reddit for porn. Why would you use it for porn? Just go on other websites dedicated to porn.
  
  There's a lot more amateur content. Places like r/gonewild have a massive amount of daily posts. Plus there's a subreddit for pretty much every fetish you could have with communities built around them. It's an entirely different vibe than just going to Pornhub and picking videos. And if you're into things that are drawn, reddit is overflowing with that kind of content.
  
  More sorted cosplay/drawn content
- I use it for r/sysadmin and niche/hobby stuff still but am pretty happy that the fediverse is here: It's only going to get better as time goes on at this point.
- This is literally me with Twitter

Colour me surprised
Every time i accidentally enter new.reddit i revolt with how awful the UI is
- You ever feel like that's a personal limitation? I start feeling a bit like a boomer when I get a strong urge to resist change
  That said, fuck Reddit's admin team/corporate leaders
  
  Personal limitation? I mean, the UI is worse. Bloated, confusing, and doesn't look any better. It has extra ads that look both like posts and comments. Fuck that.
  
  Change is only good if it's an improvement. New Reddit is objectively a worse experience than old Reddit. At least as far as I can tell in the brief times I've tried powering through just looking at it when I get there from google or something. There's a longer delay opening shit (or at least more noticeable because it has a stupid spinning reddit logo instead of blank space or whatever old reddit does), comments are less densely packed. It inserts recommendations to other posts within the comments of the one you're currently looking at. It's just terrible.
  
  It's worst when I feel the UI has been engineered to make it harder finding the information I am looking for and/or make it slower.
  I joke that I'm actively turning boomer in my ripe ol' age of mid 20's...
  And if that means I'll be kicking and screaming down the road of enshittification of the internet then so be it
  
  Maybe a little bit of both. I do feel a strong urge to resist change a lot of the time. Some times I get used to the new thing and it isn't so bad actually, some times the more I experience the new thing I hate it more. Just keep an open mind and give the new thing an honest shot I think we'll be ok.
  
  For me it's not so much that as it is the old layout being easier to work with when mostly browsing text-only subreddits. I think Reddit should be more appreciative of the things that made Reddit this big in the first place, including the design of the site at the time. It's very much an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" scenario

I remember a while back Reddit removed comments about Lemmy. Like if a subreddit recommended migrating to Lemmy, it would suddenly disappear.
Still happening or nah?
- Instead of using Imgur, I've been uploading images to posts on Lemmy and then linking to those on Reddit with my comment.
  Haven't had any issues doing that.
  The downside to this is, if the instance shuts down, those images won't be available.
- Example of them removing a mention of a Lemmy instance: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1emgf87/do_you_think_more_people_will_be_convinced_to_try/lh150o2/
- /r/Redditalternatives mentions Lemmy a lot.
  What might happen is mods removing those posts because it's "self promotion"
  
  mentions Reddit
  ?
- I can't answer affirmatively. However, today there are numerous posts on Reddit about the fact that they are considering charging money to access certain subreddits. As you would expect, most of the top comments in those threads are not happy and there are numerous comments along the lines of "I wish there were Reddit alternatives" or asking if there are any.
  I did not see any responses mentioning Lemmy or the Fediverse, and I looked for it. Now, to be clear, I did not read every comment and every reply in every one of those threads, so it's possible Lemmy was mentioned and I simply didn't see it. But it certainly wasn't prominent in any of those threads at the time I checked.
  
  Example of them removing a mention of a Lemmy instance: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1emgf87/do_you_think_more_people_will_be_convinced_to_try/lh150o2/
  Lemmy mentioned here: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1emac0p/some_subreddits_could_be_paywalled_hints_reddit/lgxutvm/

Drive your users away. It's a great idea.
They don't give a fuck about the site longterm. They got their IPO. Now they're after monetization at all costs to justify it to the shareholders. That the site goes to shit and falls apart in the long run is not their concern.

I've run into this already multiple times. It's why I finally made the jump over here. I don't use new Reddit and won't. The enshitifcation of Reddit has really ramped up.
- Yep, same attitude I have!

And so it ends.
Was waiting for them to do something like this for a while, since ads were way less intrusive on old.
- They're even less intrusive when you block them.

They cannot make me download their shit app, and when old.reddit dies then that’s when I stop going even my current once a month.

Just quit Reddit a few days ago and haven't looked back. I remember when there was no viable alternative to Reddit, with all other platforms being very sparely populated, but a lot has changed since I recently got into Lemmy as there are actually people here!
After switching to Lemmy I've noticed I've been feeling a lot happier. Maybe that's just because of how social media companies design their service to be as addicting as possible, and they do so by making you feel angry. Everything here feels much calmer and more peaceful.
- Welcome !
  
  Thanks! 😀
- I think it goes deeper than that, and that Reddit has only expanded the hidden moderation so that comments from certain users are seen over those of other users well beyond karma calculations, and that a significant part of the effort to do so is to promote the message they want or are paid for to promote. It's not a wanton sellout, but with certain topics and in certain subreddits, it's quite evident that they want to push and promote meme stock, crypto, and neozionist messaging, which look at that, has a close correlation to the interests of its CEO. This has pushed out comments and posts that promote it over sane discussions, which tends to erode into emotionally divisive drivel.
  
  That's a great point! After October 7 and Israel's genocide, I was surprised how little attention r/Palestine got compared to r/Ukraine after Russia's invasion. If you look at the top posts of all time on r/Palestine, the top post only has 10k upvotes and was before October 7, while the top post on r/Ukraine has nearly 200k upvotes and it was right after Russia invaded. It feels like r/Palestine is being silently censored, or I guess you could say being partially shadow-banned.

like for xitter they're so obsessed in blocking scrapers that they're blocking also many users
To think how many free content i gave to them 🤮 (now deleted)

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

I wonder how long before they remove the commenting feature, like Digg did.
- They might as well at this point. Look at the top comments in any of the main subs these days, they're all LLM posts. Just bots having conversations with each other. Half of them you can tell because the bot author used a very minimal prompt so they're all formatted like every basic ChatGPT response.
  And those are just from the ones I can recognize from playing around a bunch with GPT. Gotta wonder how many are going completely undetected. The default subs have been absolutely ruined with bots.
  
  I'll take your word for it, I haven't bothered to look back myself.
- They'll never remove it because that's how they get AI training data.
- Digg really killed themselves
  
  09 F9

Oh good, I wasn’t going crazy the last few months.

also known as 10 requests per minute, idk why 10 minutes is the used standard here, i guess because it sounds less shit. But this is one request every 6 seconds.
- Well, there is a technical difference between a limit of 10 requests/minute and 100 request/10 minutes. The average is the same, but the later allows for 100 requests in a minute followed by 9 minutes of nothing, whereas the former does not and 1 request/6 seconds is even worse
  
  fair enough i guess, still averages out the same though so i'm not sure why that would matter all that much, unless this means you can only load like one page every 10 minutes or something lol.

So I still hang out on reddit a bit, mostly for mechanical keyboards and sports stuff, and they are very clearly letting old.reddit, and therefore RES along with it, die on the vine. You have to pop over to new reddit to do certain administrative things, and you (or at least I) can only upload a single picture on a post, and you have to use the new interface to upload a gallery. Clicking on images now often takes you to a weird new-interface landing page instead of the image itself or a page with the old interface. I think they're going to erode the functionality until people give up and then say, "whelp... nobody was using it! Time to pull the plug!"
At which point I'm probably done. Then, Dystopia is almost the last iOS app standing but I don't think they're updating it much, so I'm probably out if/when they go too.
I've sort of accepted as a middle aged man with middle aged friends and senior citizen relatives that being tracked across mainstream social media is a thing that will be in my life, so it's not even ideological, really. Reddit is just a lot less pleasant to use on the new interfaces, with the new monetization mindset, and doesn't have the "killer app" of my actual friends and family, so it needs to be a pleasant experience and community, and not feel like I'm navigating a bot-farm ad-soaked beatdown every time I use it.
- mostly for mechanical keyboards
  There are good forums for that. People need to go back to forums.
  
  I'd be all for that, and I'm on several. That scene has so many people on Discord though, which is disheartening because Discord is awful.

Reddit died 10 years ago; it's just taken this long for it's death throws to piddle out...
- Caught a typo/autocorrect error
  It's throe, not throw. I've yet to run across a keyboard with throe in its dictionary. It's weird what niche words get put in and which ones don't.
  
  My keyboard certainly doesn't have throe in its dictionary. But it also doesn't have throw. Or through. Or really any words because it doesn't have a dictionary.

I always feel pain when using the reddit app
- Fuck that app, I’m still pissed they killed Apollo. On the rare occasions I go there now, I use SinkIt to make the mobile web experience less bad.

The irony of not linking to old Reddit…
- Fixed, I didn't notice, just copied the link from redreader
  
  It’s all good, I was just making a joke.
  But thanks for fixing!! :)

Another appreciation post from me. The less I use Reddit and YouTube the better my life is. I really don’t see a drawback here.

What the fuck! I fucking hate this. Who the fuck is thinking this is a fucking good idea bruh.(I still visit reddit but don't make post or comment)

They already fucked the layout of it up a while back so it is functionally the same as new reddit anyway.

I dont understand why third party apps don’t work with reddit. If the official app can work fine, surely an app that mimics the official one with the API requests should work, no?
- Some tried. Reddit told them to pay a ridiculous amount.
  That said, you can still use the old apps through revanced. I haven't had a rate limit yet, but I also might not make that many requests, as I don't use it that much.
- If you can develop a system that can defeat oauth security you can do way more than falsify Reddit API traffic. You could steal all kinds of information.
  
  You don't need to authenticate yourself to access most of reddit's content. It is quite plausible to attempt to collect their content by anonymizing and disguising the collecting sessions good enough. The only thing it really does is make it harder to detect instances of reddit's hidden moderation, which may be the goal here if their intent is shape and promote discussions towards certain outcomes.

BORU my only guilty pleasure. Nothing of value was lost

probably because it seems super easy to scrape

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