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Republicans worry Trump is having a ‘public nervous breakdown’

www.independent.co.uk Republicans worry Trump is having a ‘public nervous breakdown’

‘Donald Trump is losing his marbles,’ former Congressman and Republican Adam Kinzinger said

‘Donald Trump is losing his marbles,’ former Congressman and Republican Adam Kinzinger said

Republicans are concerned that party leader Donald Trump is having a “public nervous breakdown” after he made a series of offensive outbursts about Vice President Kamala Harris as he slips behind her in the polls.

The former president has made a number of insulting personal attacks against his Democratic rival since she moved to the top of the ticket. Last week, Trump questioned Harris’s racial identity at the National Association of Black Journalists conference. Over the weekend, he accused Harris of having a “low IQ.”

New polls indicate Trump is slipping behind the vice president in the popular vote and races are tightening in battleground states.

“This is what you would call a public nervous breakdown,” Matthew Bartlett, a Republican strategist and former Trump state department appointee, told Politico.

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They're only worried that it will happen before the election.
- Well, they probably also realize that if it happens after he wins, and he can't continue in office, then no couch in the country is safe.
  
  Vance's first presidential decree: All couches shall from now on be referred to as loveseats
  
  he can't continue in office
  Based on Reagan's second term, nothing short of actually being dead would meet that criteria.
  
  He can take away my vote, but I'll be dammed if I accept jus primae noctis with my furniture.

Headlines like this have existed for the entire time Trump has been in the political spotlight.
Do not trust conservatives will see this and agree. Do not get complacent. Vote. Encourage friends and family to vote.
- At this point the people who are already Trump supporters will not be swayed. He was always nuts, he was always weird, he always spewed out nonsensical word-salad. The fight is for independents who are still on the fence, and everyone on both sides considers them gullible idiots, and campaign strategy will reflect that.
  
  Everyone correctly considers them gullible idiots when it comes to politics.
  All those people will have other areas of individual expertise as well.
  
  Also the supporters who aren't diehards. Most races are won largely by just how motivated likely voters are to show up.
  Largely why Hillary lost.
- My concern with Harris running is all the positivity will get people complacent due to the polls.
  Polls don't mean shit. Get out and vote. Tell everyone to go vote.
  
  The Republicans will cheat, swindle and intimidate to win this election. They will break every rule they can, and they don't even need the popular vote in order to win. Trump might be shitting the bed but this is still far from over. The only way to keep him out of the white house is if people vote against him in vast enough numbers to counteract their cheating.
- They're not wrong, it's just that being in a breakdown/meltdown state is normal for him.

It's called a Narcissist Shame/Rage Spiral.
- There's only a handful of people in the world trump could beat in an election...
  And he never imagined Biden would actually get out of the way, so he has no idea what to do now that it's not Biden.
  
  I am absolutely convinced that Trump's entire election strategy was to just coast to victory on "Biden old" and "I got shot". By the time of the republican convention he was confident that he had it in the bag and didn't need to keep trying, so when Biden dropped out it completely shattered his plan and he's got nothing to replace it. He does not have the cognitive ability to pivot against Harris/Walz and his ego is way too big to actually listen to his campaign strategists (if he even has any that aren't just yes men).
  this should not be interpreted as complacency. It is definitely not a sure thing that Harris will win
- I get the rage but shame? That's not a thing Trump has
  
  narcissists don't shame themselves, they try to shame non-loyalists.
  
  I think he feels shame, but not about things that would make a normal person feel shame. Like, I'm pretty sure losing or appearing weak make him feel shame, but hurting people doesn't.
- This guy analyses.

If he wins, his legal troubles go away. If he loses they come back with a vengeance.
Looks like this weird old man is starting to get nervous and lash out.
Please continue.
- Finding out the Supreme Court isn't going give him unlimited power might've blown a gasket.
  On top of what you said if Harris wins a prosecutor who Trump constantly insults will be president, and Biden, who Trump also insults and put his son in prison, will have 3 months to do whatever the fuck he wants. Lol
  
  All true except Biden had nothing to do with his son being prosecuted. At most, Biden will allow him to go to prison by leaving office without pardoning him (which I believe he will do, because it's the not-corrupt thing to do.)
  
  Amazing how quickly things can turn around. I was getting worried when Biden was still in the race. Now it's open season on those peculiar far right oddballs.

They forgot that this is exactly how he operated in 2016. My amateur theory is that he decided the safe and respectable route is what cost him 2020 and is going to cost him 2024, so he’s going back to what he believes ultimately made him win.
Meanwhile the Republicans are looking at the last eight years of near nonstop national defeats but don’t have a way of dealing with this bull in their party-equivalent of a China shop
- “If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed and we will deserve it.” - Lindsey Graham
  
  "Took fucking long enough"-me
  
  Important to note that what Lindsey meant was that they would get "destroyed" in the election (which obviously did not happen), not that the party itself would be destroyed. But I hope that second meaning comes to pass regardless.

Has his behavior changed? Trump seems to be spouting the same kind of nonsense he always has. This just seems to be more of the same weird rants.
- The behavior hasn't substantially changed, but the narrative is shifting. Trump took office on the back of a wave of sardonic, nihilistic memes. He was constantly excused for being bigoted and unintelligible because his dork enlightenment cronies could cynically spin everything as nine dimensional water backgammon. The fact they weren't making sense was a plus, not a minus.
  Biden dropping out and team Kamala stepping up so hard so fast on the meme front has completely taken the right by surprise. They weren't mobilized to defend against this. So now they're on the back foot, the memes from the mainstream left are sharper and meaner than Trumpworld has ever had to deal with before, and the messaging is laser focused.
  Spouting nonsense only works if it looks like you're winning by doing so. Don just keeps showing how old, tired, and weak he really is, so the cracks are forming. Just think of all the political capital he's spent trying to make diapers cool, and then he makes a VP pick who Snopes has confirmed literally fucked a couch on live video.
  
  Didn't click the link, but I really really hope it's Rickrolling....
  
  Get out of here with this fake news! There's no video! This is just a hit on Vance!
  Again, there is no video of J.D. Vance fucking a couch. He only wrote about it in his autobiography (chapter 11, page 180).
  
  dork enlightenment
  I have no idea how I've never seen this up to now, but good god that's the perfect encapsulation of that particular sect of morons.
  
  Damn, clicked it. Didn't expect that.
  
  Agree with both above parent comments, but what can they hope to gain by starting to point out his meltdowns now? Do they think they can convince him to step down as well? To change his rhetoric?
- The best time to wake up to that Donald Trump is a weird racist who should be ignored was 1988. The second best time is now
  
  “I think we’re starting to see the old Trump that a lot of Republicans got tired of in 2020, got tired of defending him,”
  Oh are they tired of defending a traitorous rapist conman? They’re tired of defending a sociopath and grotesque manbaby for the singular purpose of jamming through the most regressive laws and judges anyone could imagine? Awwww. Poor lot of republiQans.

It's rich that he is claiming she has a low IQ when he got gentlemen Cs while at Penn. One of his professors called him his worst student ever.
- He said "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had"
  
  Missing some inflection
  "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had."
  -Dr William T Kelley, numerous times over the course of 3 decades.

Over the weekend, he accused Harris of having a “low IQ.”
How about this: instead of a debate they both take an IQ test created and administered by a neutral party. Recordings of them taking the test will be released to the public once they are both finished.
- For a conservative, only a conservative qualifies as "neutral". Everyone else is "the extreme left".
  
  For some Republicans, even some other Republicans are "the extreme left".
- Trump would boast that he managed to colour inside the lines "and they were very small lines!".
  
  Test administrator's response: "Sir there was no coloring portion on this test."
- I want them to take a test on basic US history, and/or the intelligence test from idiocracy.
  I'm actually pretty curious about how trump would do with matching the shaped blocks to the corresponding holes.
  
  I'm like 50/50 on if Trump knows the year, just the year, the US was founded on. Even if he gets the tip ''Philadelphia has a Basketball Team''
- Just have them read an essay on camera and then write a short summary.
- Nah fuck it have the test fully made by the opposing party and "Kamabla" would still whoop him
  
  That... Might actually be a better option. They could throw whatever nonsense at Kamala and she'll still do well, and he'll get basic questions relevant to government and fail abysmally.
  Question 1: "Who legally won the 2020 US presidential election?"
  Even better: after both parties submit their questions, they are told the candidates will have to answer both tests.
- How about a one question test: have you ever tried to overthrow the government of the United States?
- I wonder how one would find an actual neutral party with one of the most polarizeing people in history involved.
  
  As long as they were provided with the same test, the same answer key was used, and we are able to watch each of them take the test, it really shouldn't matter. Even if the test was "name Trump's children" Kamala would score higher.
  Doesn't matter, it's not like he'd ever agree to publicly displaying his actual, measurable, level of intelligence.
- There aren't any people who are neutral on the politics of the most powerful country in the world
  
  Not even Russia? I'm SHOCKED!!!

.... But they will vote for him anyway, because doing otherwise is basically admitting you were wrong all along, and they would never do that.

This article is bullshit.
Republicans don't actually think that.
- And, I dont understand how he could, now, be having a public nervous breakdown, if he wasn't before. He always made personal attacks.
  
  When narcissists become triggered they have a fight or flight response. Trump is having that same response every day of his life. He was having it during the coup, he was having it when he was raping, he was having it when he got convicted. The observation that Trump is mentally crumbling is true. But it's something that he does daily.
  Just think how contorted someone's thinking must be I'm order to derive their self worth from a poll.
- Yeah, it's just one of the Never Trumpers who doesn't even have a seat anymore, Kinzinger. The others have either kissed the ring or been kicked out of office.

Theoretically, what would happen if this close to the election, the stress causes a blood vessel to burst and Trump just strokes out?
I mean, besides the post-jedi levels of celebration, would Vance just be inserted into the ticket if it's too far along to have a new primary?
- Is being alive a qualification to be elected? I have no doubt Trump's people will try to pull an Air Bud "there's no rule that says a dog can't play basketball" move.
  
  weekend at bernies
  Jerboa wouldn't let me paste the gif
- A bigger question is, how could we tell that even happened?
  Edit: I mean short of him dying or becoming a drooling vegetable. The man is already deeply deranged and exhibiting significant mental declind
- Once the individual state filing deadlines have passed, it's likely that Trump/Vance would have to remain on the ballot. But this is one instance where the Electoral College helps, because the election is not for the candidates themselves, it is for electors who support the ticket. And the final certification of electors is up to each State Legislature.
  So, if God exercises His Ultimate Veto on Trump's Presidency, it will be commonly understood that Vance would take over the ticket. He will pick a new VP, and any former Trump/Vance electors would likely cast electoral votes for Vance/Chesterfield instead. While it is possible that State Democrats might challenge this, it's also absurd to force electors to vote for someone who can no longer take office, so it's likely that States would give their blessing to the substitution. Particularly if Harris is the overall winner regardless, and the Republican EC votes are simply for the historical record, and have no effect on the outcome.
  
  Vance/Chesterfield
  First VP with a sexual harassment claim against their boss?
- His cult would still vote for him if he's got a pulse.
- after the Yub Nub festival, presumably Vance should step up, but, given his shocking unpopularity, the RNC could nominate someone entirely different.
  nobody knows. it has never happened before, so it would be new territory.
- Based on what I've seen Republicans claiming online, prompted by recent changes in the Democratic ticket, such a change would be very dangerous to our democracy and therefore we should go forward with Trump being President despite the minor setback of being dead.

Cry baby snowflake felon is little cry baby snowflake felon - big shocker here
- Remember when Amber Rose said she would back Trump because he was a "real man"?
  Lol
  
  It’s almost always just power plays imo. On both sides.
  I think a big problem we have is that our populace is so large. We have a lot of culture and lifestyles to embrace, so politicians in order to appeal to the broad audience wash out most of who they actually are and end up with these surface level generalists who still have personalities below that we won’t see.
  Hard to be a singular representative for a large populace and stay popular.

‘Donald Trump is losing his marbles,’
He had some?
- These are his marbles. These are his happy thoughts :)

“Donald Trump is losing his marbles”
Yeah, that’s been obvious for a while.
I wonder if the republicans want to do a copycat switcheroo of the Dems replacing Biden and replace Trump with someone younger and more quietly fascist. But oh well, this is the monster they created. They’re stuck with him.
- Pretty sure they can't at this point, some Ohio deadline, which they need to win.

Could just be his old man dementia finally surfacing. He's fucking old, the oldest presidential candidate for sure. He's done, he should just drop out, it's pathetic. #donewithdementiadon
- Donold Trump.

So, based on this- he’s been having a nervous breakdown for the past four years following four year of…. [Checks notes] a four year nervous breakdown.

Mad (wannabe) king, with his subjects all in diapers, fixated and all chanting along in unison as he deteriorates "the nurses are all stealing the desert off my food tray!!! The nurses are all stealing the dessert off my food tray!!! The horses are all feeling the dress shirts on my good day!!! The morsels are healing my farts and the dogs gay!!!"
All the grifters surrounding their grifter in chief are going to "Weekend at Bernie's" his old, weird deteriorating body and mind so hard.

Hasn't this already been happening for the past 8 years?

Republicans worry Trump is having a 'public nervous breakdown'
No, Trump is just preparing his insanity defense for when he loses.

To be fair, there's a lot of bad blood between Kinzinger and Trump.
- Is there anyone he does not have bad blood with
  
  I mean, there's not an open feud with most Republican senators. Kinzinger essentially retired because he was anti Trump, like most anti Trump Republican congresspeople.

Hell yeah public meltdown LET'S GO!

How would you be able to tell?

How come when this guy has a public nervous break down it's big news, but when the rest of us have one it's "suck it up and get therapy?"
I want people to get worried about the country when I have a nervous breakdown.
- How is your nuclear engineering? You could potentially make folks quite nervous, indeed.
  
  I have no certifications, but I do understand more than I need to about PWR and BWR plants. I mean, I couldn't run a plant myself, I don't know what all the buttons do, and I don't know the various smaller parts and components.
  I mean if you gave me time and low enriched nuclear fuel, a machinist, an electronics technician, and some money to buy other components and generators I could probably get one built. Would it be safe? Unlikely, but it would work.
  But that's also sort of the same lines as, yes technically I've worked on a flight control computer for commercial air craft, or heart pumps. I've definitely been capable of working on missile control systems but I decided I didn't like the idea of building weapons.
  So I mean, in all, how worried I make other people is entirely dependent on what makes people worry.
  Being commander in chief seems to make a lot of people worry without a lot of effort
- Had Trump not regularly insulted people who seek out therapy there might be a bit more sympathy for the situation he finds himself in.

He's way to old to be running for president. He should drop out
- Would have been interest if Nikki Haley was the Republican candidate.
  That means a person of color woman would be president of the US with almost a 100% certainty. Also the for first Indian American.
  
  Yeah but Haley would have a serious problem getting the Republican nomination, because she isn't white or a guy.

I think almost dying really rattled him. He seems very unthrilled about being out in public now.
- He was SHOOK at the RNC days after the attempt - it would have been the funniest thing for someone to pop a balloon right as he walked out
  
  Ha! Missed me.
- Well that's one thing I can sympathize with him about.

At least 20 years too late on that "worry."

Mental instability should be automatic disqualification from federal service
- A lying psychopath would pass the test while an honest anxious person would fail. More rules on who we can elect will work just as well as the age minimum does.

Donald Trump is losing his marbles
We all know that. For years.

He never had any marbles to lose. He doesn't read and has a short attention span. He's only interested in enriching himself and gaining power, he doesn't care about anyone else, he doesn't care about this country. He doesn't care about people's beliefs, they are just a tool he uses as a means to an end.

Pretty sure he lost his marbles years ago, if he even had any to start with...

god i hope so, the only thing we need after dems call him weird, is republicans calling him weird.

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In less than two months Trump will be able to sell his shares in Trump Media/Truth Social. The value of those shares are artificially inflated. Put yourself in his shoes. Sell while the price is still high and stab everyone in the back or wait until the election which he risks losing and possibly see the stock crash hard. If he loses, his political career is certainly over and the GOP will know his brand of politics can't win national elections. They'llbe lookingto sweep him under the rug. If he cashes in early all that money could buy a lot of lawyers to drag out the trials he faces and that's been his strategy so far.

That's just his personality when he doesn't get what he wants. He always has gone off the rails. He's a rich, entitled brat that never had to grow up because he has always been able to just get rid of anyone who didn't do everything he wanted.

His Olympic-level mental gymnastics abilities are starting to fail at keeping him convinced that what is happening to him isn't someone else's fault.

Republicans only have themselves to blame for throwing their weight behind a narcississt crook rapist who is losing his marbles and his entourage of more crooks and enablers. Imagine how much they might have accomplished if their candidate was competent and surrounded by competent people.

What a fucking useless article. "Just write anything about Trump, we need the clicks". Fucking "journalists", absolutely complicit in the downfall of the US and the turn towards fascism.

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Polls don't mean shit. Get out and vote. Tell everyone to go vote.