MAGA crowd boos Trump for saying he supports abortion in cases of rape and incest: report
MAGA crowd boos Trump for saying he supports abortion in cases of rape and incest: report
Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He doesn’t want to make this election a referendum on abortion, because as we’ve seen in ballot measures in the past two years, he can’t win that fight. However, his base won’t accept anything but a hardline stance. Must suck to be him, couldn’t happen to a worse person.
If he hadn't politicized it in the first place it would've been ok, but he saw the blue cities being hit first and so it was initially a benefit because people voting against him were dying. Then his big dumdum a-brain couldn't extrapolate to the future where eventually only people against science would be dying, so he came out against protections. By the time the he realized his cult was dying off it was far too late for them to change their personalities.
He put himself there. Remember that in 2012 he was pretty waffley on abortion and then he listened to the Christian nationals and stuffed to court with people who wanted to kill Roe. Whether he is truly drinking the Kool-Aide (personally I don't think Trump gives a shit about anything as long as he gets money and fame) or not he is now committed to a position that 70% of Americans disagree with. The fact that Dems aren't knocking it out of the fucking park (we're moving in the right direction finally, at least) is a pretty clear sign that America is sick and tired of neoliberalism and wants actual change.
While he doesn't care about anything 9ther than himself, I think that he such poor management skills that he doesn't know how to resolve any situation that you can't bully yourself out of.
Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Imo this is also one of the issues that shows how he has boxed himself into a corner with his VP candidate choice. If he had chosen someone that appeals to a different voter base, rather than Vance, who caters to the same crowd, then they'd have an easier time arguing both sides at the same time.
You shouldn’t have to file a police report or be seriously ill to get an abortion. Fuck the GOP’s stance on abortion.
That’s Trump’s stance on abortion. GOP stance is: you’re not an American if you support ANY abortion publicly.
The American way is to have children die of preventable diseases because they can't afford healthcare or by school shooting.
They don't think you're human if you support abortion. They see you as some sort of serial killer. It's absolutely batshit crazy.
Lol at GOP writing a law where a police report is sufficient. They will only include a rape/incest allowance if there’s a conviction. Of course that will never happen in time, so the exception becomes meaningless.
This. Only this.
The crowd: "We love rape and incest"
How else do you expect them to procreate???!?
Thats what cousins are for silly!
I wonder how hard a horse would have to kick my skull before I thought the government should assist pedophiles in harming their victims. They hate women so much.
As other commenter said - they are consistent. If abortion is murder, that's any abortion. If it's not, then no abortion is a crime.
The only case where you want to forbid abortions generally, but allow them for rape and incest cases, is if you are a fascist who wants to force women to give birth except for most outrageous cases (also with rape the child is more likely to be, eh, not loved by the mother, while with incest more likely to have pathologies), those likely to be less useful for their demography fetish.
So in this case Trump is worse than his supporters if we try to deduce logic from the position taken, while his supporters are worse in practice.
This is what happens when you pander to extremists, donnie. You now have the choice of pissing off the nutjobs by trying to appeal to the moderates, or you can double down on the nutjobs. You lose either way.
It won't matter. His supporters will just ignore anything they disagree with. It won't even be reported in the media they consume.
Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence can't remember what his cult wants. He needs to drop out, he's just too old.
He's probably paid for an abortion in a case of rape and incest.
We have court records alleging almost as much. It was a kid on Epstein's Island.
With campaign money.
More likely he promised to pay for an abortion and then didn't.
Even Donald would've have been fucked if teenage Ivanka gave birth to one of his abominations. He didn't have the cult yet so he was only protected from financial crimes.
That is one cursed, which is not to say inaccurate, conjunction.
One abortion for both cases or separate incidents?
On the one hand, I love to see him booed and I'm sure it actually had an impact on the narcissist. On the other hand, the booers could hardly have chosen a worse stance.
Degenerates is right. You have to be a degenerate to believe that a 10-year-old should have her uncle's rape baby.
America, you are a seriously screwed up nation.
These people are in the minority. A very vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.
Yeah, most of the crowd at a Trump rally is going to be a caricature of all the negative stereotypes about Republicans and/or Americans. And if we know them personally, we can tell they aren’t right in the head.
Twitter mob: protect the religious minority! And roch minority!
Do not compare me to these people.
I would have been booing from the start.
The people showing up to trump and turning point bullshit are not representative of the majority. But constant coverage of those morons since trump definitely makes it seem that way
It feels like a representation based on voting.
This is probably why he has been so hesitant on making campaign promises this time around.
If he takes up a stand other than "dems are bad", he risks dividing his fanbase.
Well his issue is that he has been saying shit to appease his cult and they took a turn for straight up fascism, and then his issue is that the coup failed and he is no longer in power and that maga cult is simply not big enough to get him elected, he has to take some more reasonable stances to attract the "normal" republicans, but then those somewhat normal views are too fucking extreme for his maga cult so he is in risk of losing them if he says stuff like this, he is kinda fucked
Why doesn't he just do the classics which they all agree on? Promises of overt bigotry and being financially cucked by billionaires always work great on Repubs.
It worked when he had it in the bag because potentially democratically voters would've stayed home for Biden.
Now they get mobilised because they feel the shift in energy, so Trump has to try fishing in the less extremist ponds.
Trump's one strategy is to say something and see if it catches. If it falls flat, he won't bring it up again. If it works, he'll hammer it harder next time.
He must have felt how much they're losing on abortion and tried to pull it back, but the base won't follow him there. You probably won't hear him bring it up again for the rest of the campaign.
He’s trying to win the other side. As he has competition now.
Sure, but I mean, that's not why he and the GOP don't have a platform. It's because he is a compulsive liar and nobody - least of all himself - can even keep track of all the contradictory positions he's taking.
Just in case someone truly believe that all this s**tshow would just disappear without Trump around. Let's face it, he's a symptom of the problem, not the main cause.
The abortion shitshow isn't about Trump, but the neo-monarchism shitshow is.
Corporate neo-feudalism. It is not about monarchy.
i don't understand why people are still anti-abortion in general, but even for those who are completely against it, why not allow it in extreme cases like medical reasons, rape, and incest? surely your god wouldn't want a young girl raped by her father to give birth to her own child-sibling who's definitely going to be all kinds of genetically and mentally fucked up?
Honest answer? Yeah, many of them would. Because God doesn't make mistakes and it must therefore be God's plan.
Why is rape part of God's plan but abortion isn't? No clue, beats me.
Abortion is part of god's plan, he gives instructions for one way to cause a medical miscarriage in Numbers 5:11-31. They just ignore the parts of the book that don't agree with their fascism.
Because it’s always just been a lie designed to control, the entirety of their worldview is
Because they believe that women should be subordinate to men, and that their sexuality should be tightly controlled. For the same reason, they want to make it harder to get divorced.
It has never been about religion, that’s just a smokescreen. it’s just control over women.
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Or some other bullshit they tell themselves to justify the horrors of the world. The Lord is almighty. No, fuck you, the "lord" does not exist, you imbecile.
Because they believe that a fetus is a human being, and that killing a human is murder. I find it sad that so many people cannot understand that many Christians really believe that.
Apparently it's when they are old enough to be in school shootings that they cease to be a precious important life to be protected at all cost.
Sure, they "believe" it is murder up until they or their family would like to undergo one.
Christians believe that a zombie can come back to life too. Why would any of their fantasy beliefs matter in the slightest.
I have seen no evidence that they actually believe that, considering how this diverges from their beliefs about the sanctity of life in many other areas.
We understand that they believe it. We don't agree with it and resent being told we have to live under someone else's belief system.
Forcing others to live their lives according to your religion that they do not share is violence.
The rest of humanity does not want or need your beliefs forced on us, so kindly keep them to yourselves.
Buuut they don't. When was the last time a so called Christian held a funeral for a miscarriage??
They do not believe what you said, not at all.
Their religious texts don't say it. They don't believe because they are not ready to throw their sisters and mothers in prison for abortions.
It is all a big fat lie perpetrated by politicians using religion for their personal gain. They have used effective propaganda to dup non-political people into voting for them.
There are some extremists that may believe this but they are not mainstream at all despite how badly they want to be. I would argue these people are not Christians at all.
Mental illness.
Your ONLY allowed to kill Children AFTER they've been Born! That's why these SAME people are TOTALLY COOL with Guns in Schools and Calling in Bomb Threats to Children's Hospital's and Outlawing Youth Medicine and Defunding School Lunches!
I have to commend these vile shitbags with being consistent about hating women and wanting them to be miserable incubators.
Other "moderate" regressives who find that far too cruel to impose on somebody need to get a fucking clue what team they are backing. Supporting abortion for rape and incest is inconsistent with pretending a fetus is a human. There are no crimes a father can commit where it is morally acceptable to execute a child.
There are no crimes a father can commit where it is morally acceptable to execute a child.
Other than that, Christianity has a lot of things about forgiveness and eternal soul and such, which not only make responsibility quite personal, but also make such child not worse than any other child.
He created that monster. It’s his own fault if they eat him alive- because I guarantee you, they’re going to get far worse and they’ll turn on him in a fucking second if he even so much as glances to the left.
Glances to the slightly less far right you mean?
hell one of them already took a shot at him. If that's not a wake up call I don't know what is.
Floundering for a platform when the only platform they had, “fuck Biden”, was suddenly pulled out from under them. Now they don’t know what to do.
You really have to be full of hate to take such a position. Wtf.
Hey, you know what's cool? Traumatizing victims of trauma!
The Republicans are getting cannibalized by their own voterbase. They've pushed their voters too far to the right, and now it's coming back to bite them in the ass. Whatever plausibly "moderate" views red politicians have now are going to be gone in a few years, if the Democrats winning the upcoming elections doesn't save them lol
Just a reminder that the only sensible way to determine if a pregnancy was caused by rape is to ask the woman.
If you're pro-rape-exception, you're pro choice.
I’m pro-choice, but I think this is a bit silly. For example you could say that having car insurance cover accidents but not intentional damage is the same as covering intentional damage because the only sensible way to determine it is to ask the driver.
Is it as hard to prove someone intentionally damaged there car as it is to prove someone wasn't raped? If so, then yes, insurance companies are covering for intentional damage.
A better fit for your example if is the rules change so that insurance companies only paid out if the other driver intentionally rammed into you. If it was an accident all around they don't pay out. How would you enforce such a rule? You couldn't.
How do you prove sex is consensual when you can't even demonstrate which sex act caused the pregnancy?
So if a woman wants an abortion, no problem, just lie and send your partner to prison.
Who says her partner raped her?
I mean you can just say a stranger you can't identify raped you man. There doesn't have to be an actual person to blame lol
Because women with partners are 100% impervious to acts of sexual violence from others?
"The spirits that I summoned / I now cannot rid myself of again" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Hypothetically, what about any prostitute you happen to get pregnant?
Jail time for all? Most of the US criminalizes that kind of sex workers and their clients (and more will be added if JD Vance has his way).
It was an allusion to Trump's penchant for prostitutes.
How many couches can you fit in one jail cell?
Why are we talking about Melanie?
He already covered cases of rape.
Scrolling by quickly, the thumbnail in my Lemmy client makes it look like he's got a hitler mustache. The framing of the microphone and his hand is almost perfect and very fitting.
Trump: I don't want to be financially responsible for my rape babies.
Crowd: boo!
They can all eat shit and die. Worthless traitor filth.
They made excuses for his porn star affiliations, his “take their guns away” comment, but this may be too far.
How DARE he rape children with Jeffrey Epstein cheat on Melania with a porn star while she's pregnant defraud people BILLIONS of dollars say that rape and incest is bad!
Imagine being so ingrained into the cult that you think Trump is too liberal.
I doubt he believes in most of the shit he spews, he just wants the power and publicity of the position, also to be able to get him out of his own troubles. We know he isn't religious, he is likely pro choice, and he was for drag shows, escorts. He just does what will get/keep him in power without having the ability to understand anything like empathy.
Imagine someone telling you that the mother of your kids can get you a tax break and thinking "let's use that, oh and maybe don't take care of that part of the golf course" when clearly the landscapers are already being paid to care for the entire course, and you now have more money to pay for it. I can only think it was vindictiveness.
They're really going to force him to eat the ookie cookie that is being in support of an exception-less national abortion ban.
They're not going to make him say it, but they know a wink's as good as a nod to a blind man.
When I saw this post scrolling by the thumbnail really got my attention...
That little piece of black mic in front of his nose...it just reminded me of some figure from the not so distant past...he also rallied huge crowds and they were all cheering for every single word he said.
Lol you are right. Need to start Photoshopping black mics on all the photos
It's a different thumbnail now...what a pity.
And yet at the end of the day they will conveniently forget about this and still support their God-Emperor no matter what.
Well that's ironic cause he's guilty of at least one of those things and wants the other, at the very least.
We already knew the magats were evil did we not?
Many of the things he said are things that Democrats want to do - they didn’t take away the child tax credit (in fact Biden expanded it), they do want to make life more accommodating to parents, they want protections against women having setbacks in their careers because of pregnancy. I don’t get what his issue is.
Of course he does. He needs loopholes for his fantasies.
Oh wow, who knew that the MAGA crowd was full of a bunch of misogynist incestuous rapists!?...oh right, everybody...everybody knew that.
Well he should know, he's into both.
Rules for thee, not for me.
How booing is good here? There are many other reasons to boo at him, but this one is not such reason.
Are you a MAGA?
The significance of the headline is that the right is fracturing.
Are you a MAGA?
How supporting abortions is MAGA? How can non-American be MAGA? Oh, right, Trump said it, so now it is MAGA.
I think beind "against whatever Trump says" is harmful. Today Trump says in support of abortions, tomorrow that corpobrained will say something in support of UHC. Should then everyone start hating UHC?
The significance of the headline is that the right is fracturing.
It's more like plaster fell off exposing long-existing cracks, but ok.
Just goes to show that trump isn't bad enough for a lot of Republicans. It's unfathomable.
Where have I seen this?.. Criticizing the Great Leader for not being militant enough.
I'm not surprised.
