Unreal Engine supervisor at ModelFarm blasts 50% failure rate with Intel chips — company switching to AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X, praises single-threaded performance

No, or very few, locks in too. Like overclock or have virtualization.

I just went full AMD when I realised their Open Source effort to market share ratio (alright, there is no metric for OS effort, I just do it by the feels) is way ahead of Intel.

A RISK-V based system is probably what comes over that.

Excellent point!

I have been rocking and since the first Aylin series, simply because I think Intel deserves and requires a competitor. The fact that the new (and last few) amd units are good value for money helps a lot!

AMD for platform, Intel for NIC (and optane SSD)

Best combo IMO.

I'm waiting till I see a good price on a 5900x/5950x for the rig I recently built with 5800x, the 5800x rips though I will keep it and do another build with it.

I've got a 5000 series CPU running happily on a first gen Ryzen board. Started with a 1600 and now I have a 5600G. Hybrid graphics setup and all. First gen Ryzen was junk compared to my current CPU, it's kinda crazy.

I went from 1700 to 5600 on the same motherboard, and I can still upgrade to an X3D chip if I want to. That's like 6 years of CPUs on one motherboard.

And the new socket seems to offer something similar.

if Bartlett Lake rumor ends up being true, ironically LGA 1700 had a much longer lifespan than intel would typically have (it would introduce a 4th series to LGA 1700), which would technically put it in a similarish boat to AM5 generation wise in count. (Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3 vs Alder lake, Raptor Lake, Raptor Lake+, Bartlett Lake)

the only problem for intell of course is the middle generations top end is basically now unusable

Wasn't that before they switched to LGA though?

Intel's played the socket game for 30 years now, they aren't stopping now. It's a bone they throw to the motherboard manufacturers to ensure they stay the main business focus for them.

I'm still running a 3700x and had been thinking about upgrading. Is the 5800x the best choice for am4?

Better off buying from Temu at that failure rate.

This is probably a worse rate than all those motherboards years ago with the fucked up capacitors.

We had fucking stacks of them.

Why are grey market CPU parts more prone to failure? For GPUs I can understand due to possible mining usage, but CPUs too?

I'm ready for the eBay batch purchase.....batch of 10 please!

I'm curious about the timeframe for failures though. Like, if these machines are being used for feature film VFX, I wouldn't be surprised if the CPU is running at near 100%, 24/7 for months on end. If it fails after 6 months under those conditions, a typical home user might be able to go years without an issue. Of course, there would probably be unlucky people who have problems long before that.

It's also interesting that we're not hearing anything from Amazon, Google or Microsoft. They use Intel-based servers and they also push them hard. Are they not seeing these problems, or are they just not talking about them? If they're not seeing them, is it safe to push the affected Intel CPUs hard as long as you avoid very specific code / algorithms?

Hopefully.

Unless Intel can fix their production quality, no, you will most likely see Intel purchased by Broadcom or Amazon.

Intel has deep production cycle problems, a QA crisis unfolding, and billions tied up in a new chip factory in Ohio and a remodel of its Arizona plant. There isn't much that they can do to change what the next 2 years brings because that was locked in years ago. And those decisions are killing Intel.

Keep in mind, Intel decided they are getting into GPUs too and those have to survive this quality crisis too. Most of what Intel does is no longer the best and, frankly, probably not second best anymore. It is very difficult to see a path out of this for them short of a few billion to float them through this period.

IMHO, the real story is Intel and TSMC.

AMD will be able to raise prices, unfortunately.

Anything that pushes the CPUs significantly can cause instability in affected parts. I think there are at least two separate issues Intel is facing:

• Voltage irregularities causing instability. These could potentially be fixed by the microcode update Intel will be shipping in mid-August.
• Oxidation of CPU vias. This issue cannot be fixed by any update, any affected part has corrosion inside the CPU die and only replacement would resolve the issue.

Intel's messaging around this problem has been very slanted towards talking as little as possible about the oxidation issue. Their initial Intel community post was very carefully worded to make it sound like voltage irregularity was the root cause, but careful reading of their statement reveals that it could be interpreted as only saying that instability is a root cause. They buried the admission that there is an oxidation issue in a Reddit comment, of all things. All they've said about oxidation is that the issue was resolved at the chip fab some time in 2023, and they've claimed it only affected 13th gen parts. There's no word on which parts number, date ranges, processor code ranges etc. are affected. It seems pretty clear that they wanted the press talking about the microcode update and not the chips that will have the be RMA'd.

I understand the cynicism. But if you've been following this topic, Intel really fucked with some huge customers (businesses) here. And AMD was already stealing their lunch with their previous gen processors.