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Joe Biden has dropped out of the presidential race. What effects will his decision have?

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I'm actually pretty dang hopeful right now. The right has spent so much time and effort focused around Joe being old and tired, and now that is all dead in the water.
Now we have a new candidate starting from zero with many people, vs trump which is obviously very well known. In short I'm trying to say we have the element of surprise, the benefit of the unknown. They have to convince moderates that this new candidate is still somehow worse than trump, and these aren't the hard right people, these are the undecided (somehow) and centered voters.
Far right voters will always back trump, but the indecisive voters and moderate Republicans who don't like trump but fell for the years of propaganda against Biden have been wanting anyone who is better than Biden but not trump. Same with more centered Democrats, not that they wanted to vote for trump but Biden was not a great candidate for them either.
The rights whole plan was "Joe is so much worse than trump!" and they had 16 years of content to pull on. They can't do that again with a new candidate. People say they handed the election to Republicans. I think it's the opposite. I think Republicans demanding Joe drop out when anti Joe was their only message may have just accidentally handed the election to Democrats.
If the Dems come out strong on this I think it could shake up the whole election. I see people online saying doom and gloom, I strongly disagree, I think this is a huge rallying cry.
- Joe being old and tired, and now that is all dead in the water.
  Nope. Now it's trump who's old and tired. Kamala needs to go after trump and his crime family like she would other criminals and prosecute them in the press. She is a former prosecutor, after all.
  
  I was very against Biden dropping out, but i think this is a pretty good point. I think it is still very risky for her to run due to race and sex discrimination, but it might not be a predetermined loss at least.
  
  I think that's the invigorating thing as a Democrat. I was feeling beat down and tired, we knew what the outcome was more or less, a razer thin margin on either side. This completely changes that equation, and it means both sides will have to really amp up their game. Democrats just proved they're willing to throw the hail Mary and that makes me really excited!
  
  Honestly yes, not that the hard right will see that, but yes she has the huge opportunity to say something like "it's time we put power in the hands of people who will see the effects of it" so to speak. If she used rhetoric similar to that it could be impactful for getting young people to actually vote like they did for Obama
  
  Biden has an opportunity to make speech saying something like, "I've decided I am too old for the job, as anybody over 70 should be. It is time for the oldest generation to step aside for their children and grandchildren. It is they who know what the world needs, because they are the ones who will live in that world. The younger generations should no longer elect anyone who is out of touch with their needs."
  
  That's what he should do, now let's get back to reality, that's never going to happen. That would require the geriatric fucks who put us into this godforsaken mess in the first place to admit that they just might have been, wrong and to give up their power to someone new. They'd rather die and leave the country in turmoil than do what's right. And it's across all three branches of government, it's not anything exclusive to the Congress critters. Just look at how we got our current Republican controlled SCOTUS. These fuckers aren't going to leave on their own, they need to be forced out.
  
  That would require the geriatric fucks who put us into this godforsaken mess in the first place to admit that they just might have been, wrong and to give up their power to someone new.
  That literally just happened?
  
  Show me where there is anything even close to an admission of being wrong? Where is he saying that running again was a mistake and that the party needs to be looking to younger members to take them into the future?
  Biden isn't apologizing for the waste of campaigning up to this point. He got COVID again and combined with the massive push due to the clearly pertinent age-related health questions, there's just no option to keep going. He's only dropping his bid because it's being forced.
  He's not leaving because he wants to, or because he's had any sort of realization.
  
  Regime is gonna regime this
  There is NO practical way to affect any of this. We can chose trump or Harris and neither of then is going to be anything of sorts.
  Can't even get annual or maternity leave. Shit ain't even on the agenda lol
  
  … Now it's trump who's old and tired …
  So it’s his turn to drop out of the race?
  
  https://twitter.com/AdamJSmithGA/status/1814723038564192535
  
  Yeah, all their shooting against Biden will now come back to haunt them. It's not like Trump isn't a senile old man. He's just senile in different ways.
  
  More malicious, incompetent, and openly hostile ways. He's the elderly home resident who none of the nurses want to help because of what an awful person he is.
  
  That's certainly what US media should be focusing on, but probably won't.
  
  I'm hoping she sees a surge of support when she starts removed slapping Trump around for being a treasonous felon
- I agree completely. I think the strong move for Harris will be to focus her campaign around abortion rights and promise to fight for federal laws guaranteeing the right to an abortion, even to the point of openly defying the Supreme Court if they reject the law. She also needs to focus on court reform, push for a strict code of conduct to be enforced against the supreme court, and either impeach/replace Alito and Thomas or (if there aren't enough votes for that) eliminate the fillibuster to pack the courts with only a simple Senate majority.
  
  I am hesitant about is right now the best time for a black woman president, are the people ready for it, but the way you framed it put it well. A strong eloquent black woman who is ready to put women's rights at the forefront where her opponent is actively trying to take away those rights may work extremely well.
  
  Now is the time for anyone that's not going to directly try and undermine our Representative Democracy and work to replace it with an Authoritarian Dictatorship. Trump has literally said he wants to be a dictator on day one, and we know the Republican Project 2025 plan. I don't give a shit if that means we're voting for a random dude in an Easter Bunny outfit, I'll suck it up and vote for a furry if it means we don't go down that path.
  
  Maybe now's the best time to mix things up. This could be the last election before the fall of the democracy, why not go all out? I'm actually really excited for this move, and despite a little uncertainty at first I'm fully onboard.
  
  That's how I feel! They're throwing the hail Mary right now, but damn if I haven't seen Democrats this excited since Obama
- Well said man. Totally agree.
- If the Dems come out strong on this
  That's my concern. When was the last time they came out strong on anything of importance to the average American?
  
  So far just doing this at all is a pretty strong stance. That's why it's exciting, I was with you I fully expected them to do nothing. "Biden's our best shot, stick with that" This is completely out of character for them. (And it was them, the party pushed him to leave)
  
  When was the last time they came out strong on anything of importance to the average American?
  When Joe Biden dropped out of the race.

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